2013 Oscar Discussion Discussion Thread

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by zahinn

I dont get why Lincoln got nods for Cinematography and editing...even directing.

Lincoln is the movie it is mostly due to the acting in the movie and of course, the script. I am glad it got recognition in those categories.

There was no need for award-worthy editing in a movie like this...everything was pretty straight forward. They just followed the script to the bone.

With all these good actors and a good script, the movie sort of just makes itself (if you know what I mean). I guess what bugged me the most about Lincoln was that Spielberg just played it too safe. I wish the movie had a little more of a flavour/attitude.

P.S. John williams' score put me to ****ing sleep

If a film is going to win Best Film it needs a film editing nod as well. It's just been the way it's gone for the other winners.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Foggy

If a film is going to win Best Film it needs a film editing nod as well. It's just been the way it's gone for the other winners.

I've been testing out the theory once handed down to me by another late film-chat genius on Usenet:
If the same movie wins both Editing and Score, collect your Picture bets early. Loyal Hugo-booster that I was, I tried that with the Artist last year, and collected.

[TommySyk]

I was kinda sad for Looper not being in there for Best Film Editing at least and maybe Best Original Screenplay too, that movie was great.
Bardem should have gotten a Best Supporting Actor nomination for his role as Silva on Skyfall IMO.
Lincoln, Django and Zero Dark Thirty haven't come out here in Portugal yet, so I can't really give my opinion on those movies, but I loved Argo and Silver Linings Playbook. I'll have to check out the others nominated for Best Motion Picture of the Year aswell.
They completely ignored TDKR aswell, which was my favourite movie of 2012, and I think it should have gotten nominations for the technical departments at the very least.
When I get to watch every movie nominated for Best Motion Picture of the Year, I'll make a list of my picks for each department

[chris_sc77]

Still is terribly criminal to me how Cloud Atlas didn't get get Score, Cinematography, Editing and Make-up nominations. That was technically flawless film regardless if you liked the storylines or not.

[Snicket]

Well there is now a giant target on Lincoln's head. (Too soon?)

While the Globes and Oscars don't really go hand in hand, they are important in building momentum.

Every precursor tells me that Argo is the frontrunner, but with Affleck not nominated and no support in the lead acting awards...I have a real hard time seeing this take the prize.

Who has the ability to take it? Silver Linings? Zero Dark?

This is going to be a more interesting race than I had anticipated, and that is a VERY good thing.

[Scottie]

I bolded the ones I think will win (based off the Golden Globes feedback).

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Performance by an actor in a leading role
Bradley Cooper in “Silver Linings Playbook”
Daniel Day-Lewis in “Lincoln”
Hugh Jackman in “Les Misérables”
Joaquin Phoenix in “The Master”
Denzel Washington in “Flight”

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Alan Arkin in “Argo”
Robert De Niro in “Silver Linings Playbook”
Philip Seymour Hoffman in “The Master”
Tommy Lee Jones in “Lincoln”
Christoph Waltz in “Django Unchained”

Performance by an actress in a leading role
Jessica Chastain in “Zero Dark Thirty”
Jennifer Lawrence in “Silver Linings Playbook”
Emmanuelle Riva in “Amour”
Quvenzhané Wallis in “Beasts of the Southern Wild”
Naomi Watts in “The Impossible”

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Amy Adams in “The Master”
Sally Field in “Lincoln”
Anne Hathaway in “Les Misérables”
Helen Hunt in “The Sessions”
Jacki Weaver in “Silver Linings Playbook”

Best animated feature film of the year
“Brave” Mark Andrews and Brenda Chapman
“Frankenweenie” Tim Burton
“ParaNorman” Sam Fell and Chris Butler
“The Pirates! Band of Misfits” Peter Lord
“Wreck-It Ralph” Rich Moore

Achievement in cinematography
“Anna Karenina” Seamus McGarvey
“Django Unchained” Robert Richardson
“Life of Pi” Claudio Miranda
“Lincoln” Janusz Kaminski
“Skyfall” Roger Deakins

Achievement in costume design
“Anna Karenina” Jacqueline Durran
“Les Misérables” Paco Delgado
“Lincoln” Joanna Johnston
“Mirror Mirror” Eiko Ishioka
“Snow White and the Huntsman” Colleen Atwood

Achievement in directing
“Amour” Michael Haneke
“Beasts of the Southern Wild” Benh Zeitlin
“Life of Pi” Ang Lee
“Lincoln” Steven Spielberg
“Silver Linings Playbook” David O. Russell

Best documentary feature
“5 Broken Cameras”
Emad Burnat and Guy Davidi
“The Gatekeepers”
“How to Survive a Plague”
“The Invisible War”
“Searching for Sugar Man”

Best documentary short subject
“Inocente”
Sean Fine and Andrea Nix Fine
“Kings Point”
Sari Gilman and Jedd Wider
“Mondays at Racine”
Cynthia Wade and Robin Honan
“Open Heart”
Kief Davidson and Cori Shepherd Stern
“Redemption”
Jon Alpert and Matthew O’Neill

Achievement in film editing
“Argo” William Goldenberg
“Life of Pi” Tim Squyres
“Lincoln” Michael Kahn
“Silver Linings Playbook” Jay Cassidy and Crispin Struthers
“Zero Dark Thirty” Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg

Best foreign language film of the year
“Amour” Austria
“Kon-Tiki” Norway
“No” Chile
“A Royal Affair” Denmark
“War Witch” Canada

Achievement in makeup and hairstyling
“Hitchcock”
Howard Berger, Peter Montagna and Martin Samuel
“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”
Peter Swords King, Rick Findlater and Tami Lane
“Les Misérables”
Lisa Westcott and Julie Dartnell

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
“Anna Karenina” Dario Marianelli
“Argo” Alexandre Desplat
“Life of Pi” Mychael Danna
“Lincoln” John Williams
“Skyfall” Thomas Newman

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
“Before My Time” from “Chasing Ice”
Music and Lyric by J. Ralph
“Everybody Needs A Best Friend” from “Ted”
Music by Walter Murphy; Lyric by Seth MacFarlane
“Pi’s Lullaby” from “Life of Pi”
Music by Mychael Danna; Lyric by Bombay Jayashri
“Skyfall” from “Skyfall”
Music and Lyric by Adele Adkins and Paul Epworth
“Suddenly” from “Les Misérables”
Music by Claude-Michel Schönberg; Lyric by Herbert Kretzmer and Alain Boublil[/b]

Best motion picture of the year
“Amour” Nominees to be determined
“Argo” Grant Heslov, Ben Affleck and George Clooney, Producers
“Beasts of the Southern Wild” Dan Janvey, Josh Penn and Michael Gottwald, Producers
“Django Unchained” Stacey Sher, Reginald Hudlin and Pilar Savone, Producers
“Les Misérables” Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Debra Hayward and Cameron Mackintosh, Producers
“Life of Pi” Gil Netter, Ang Lee and David Womark, Producers
“Lincoln” Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, Producers
“Silver Linings Playbook” Donna Gigliotti, Bruce Cohen and Jonathan Gordon, Producers
“Zero Dark Thirty” Mark Boal, Kathryn Bigelow and Megan Ellison, Producers

Achievement in production design
“Anna Karenina”
Production Design: Sarah Greenwood; Set Decoration: Katie Spencer
“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”
Production Design: Dan Hennah; Set Decoration: Ra Vincent and Simon Bright
“Les Misérables”
Production Design: Eve Stewart; Set Decoration: Anna Lynch-Robinson
“Life of Pi”
Production Design: David Gropman; Set Decoration: Anna Pinnock
“Lincoln”
Production Design: Rick Carter; Set Decoration: Jim Erickson

Best animated short film
“Adam and Dog” Minkyu Lee
“Fresh Guacamole” PES
“Head over Heels” Timothy Reckart and Fodhla Cronin O’Reilly
“Maggie Simpson in “The Longest Daycare”" David Silverman
“Paperman” John Kahrs

Best live action short film
“Asad” Bryan Buckley and Mino Jarjoura
“Buzkashi Boys” Sam French and Ariel Nasr
“Curfew” Shawn Christensen
“Death of a Shadow (Dood van een Schaduw)” Tom Van Avermaet and Ellen De Waele
“Henry” Yan England

Achievement in sound editing
“Argo” Erik Aadahl and Ethan Van der Ryn
“Django Unchained” Wylie Stateman
“Life of Pi” Eugene Gearty and Philip Stockton
“Skyfall” Per Hallberg and Karen Baker Landers
“Zero Dark Thirty” Paul N.J. Ottosson

Achievement in sound mixing
“Argo”
John Reitz, Gregg Rudloff and Jose Antonio Garcia
“Les Misérables”
Andy Nelson, Mark Paterson and Simon Hayes
“Life of Pi”
Ron Bartlett, D.M. Hemphill and Drew Kunin
“Lincoln”
Andy Nelson, Gary Rydstrom and Ronald Judkins
“Skyfall”
Scott Millan, Greg P. Russell and Stuart Wilson

Achievement in visual effects
“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”
Joe Letteri, Eric Saindon, David Clayton and R. Christopher White
“Life of Pi”
Bill Westenhofer, Guillaume Rocheron, Erik-Jan De Boer and Donald R. Elliott
“Marvel’s The Avengers”
Janek Sirrs, Jeff White, Guy Williams and Dan Sudick
“Prometheus”
Richard Stammers, Trevor Wood, Charley Henley and Martin Hill
“Snow White and the Huntsman”
Cedric Nicolas-Troyan, Philip Brennan, Neil Corbould and Michael Dawson

Adapted screenplay
“Argo” Screenplay by Chris Terrio
“Beasts of the Southern Wild” Screenplay by Lucy Alibar & Benh Zeitlin
“Life of Pi” Screenplay by David Magee
“Lincoln” Screenplay by Tony Kushner
“Silver Linings Playbook” Screenplay by David O. Russell

Original screenplay
“Amour” Written by Michael Haneke
“Django Unchained” Written by Quentin Tarantino
“Flight” Written by John Gatins
“Moonrise Kingdom” Written by Wes Anderson & Roman Coppola
“Zero Dark Thirty” Written by Mark Boal

I hope I'm wrong about some, though.

I'd love to see Argo and Silver Linings take it all.

[benbess]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

Still is terribly criminal to me how Cloud Atlas didn't get get Score, Cinematography, Editing and Make-up nominations. That was technically flawless film regardless if you liked the storylines or not.

Yeah. I liked Cloud Atlas a lot too. Seems a shame it was shut out.

[Josh5890]

Argo won best drama at the Globe's. Maybe there is hope for it to win Best Picture.

[Agent Bond]

Before all these award shows, I was sure Lincoln and Jennifer Lawrence were a lock for their Oscars. Now, I think it will be Argo and Jessica Chastain will instead.

It would be so funny if Affleck wins everything until Oscars. I still want Les Mis to win BP though.

[runnersdialzero]

With Affleck's win, the Academy looks even worse for not nominating him.

[Jasonic]

Definitely a complete joke that Affleck isn't nominated. Still want Spielberg to win though.

[remake]

I think Chastain has Best Actress on lock.

[Mandalorian]

I think she does too.

[Snicket]

Lawrence won tonight to, why the big swing for Chastain?

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Lawrence won tonight to, why the big swing for Chastain?

Cause they probably think Drama is a bigger thing then Comedy/Drama.

[remake]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Lawrence won tonight to, why the big swing for Chastain?

I'll be extremely happy if either one won, but I'm going with Chastain.

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by victim

I'll be extremely happy if either one won, but I'm going with Chastain.

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[remake]

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Jacki Weaver in “Silver Linings Playbook”

This is just ridiculous.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by undiscovered

I'll be extremely happy if either one won, but I'm going with Chastain.

Riva SHOULD win... but Hollywood will go with one of the young pretty girls, because that's how shallow Hollywood is.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

Hathaway was very good in Les Miserables even though I dont have too much nice to say about other aspects of the film but Hathaway nailed that role. But I do have to say I was very unprepared for the lack of screen time she has. I thought she would be in the film about 2 or 3 times as much as she was. I dont think the Academy will be bothered by that though and still give her the award.

Screen time has nothing to do with a performance. As far as Les Mis goes, she was in it about the same amount as that character was in the stage play.

Anthony Hopkins unjustly won Best Actor for being onscreen in Silence of the Lambs for only 16 measly minutes... that technically should have been supporting.

Beatrice Straight win Supporting for Network, despite being in screen for only 5 minutes 40 seconds.