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Old 12-09-2014, 09:58 PM   #6501
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it plays more like Batman Begins Again
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:22 PM   #6502
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I see nothing ambiguous about the ending at all. The secret/clue/whatever was clear in the whole "but the auto-pilot was fixed" bit - else there's no reason for it to be in the film. As GenPion said, "Warner Bros would ... have never allowed for a directly apparent ending to the trilogy with Batman/Bruce Wayne dying" (my emphasis). But, if "ambiguous" or "open-ended" works better for you, that's cool - it's not correct, but it's cool.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:32 PM   #6503
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Yeah, there's no mystery in the ending. Maybe if the line about the auto-pilot being fixed wasn't there you could say it was Alfred dreaming, but the line IS there.

The only thing left ambiguous IMO is whether Alfred eventually walks over and sits down, which I like to think he would, because that's how a normal human being would behave.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:57 PM   #6504
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I love how Bruce Wayne used his real name when fixing the autopilot in The Bat. "Hey Lucious, what the hell does Bruce Wayne have to do with fixing Batman's arsenal?"


I wonder if Prince Harry faked his death if he could go hang out at the mall without being noticed?
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:25 PM   #6505
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I love how Bruce Wayne used his real name when fixing the autopilot in The Bat. "Hey Lucious, what the hell does Bruce Wayne have to do with fixing Batman's arsenal?"
To be fair, The Bat was in development at Wayne Enterprises during the eight years that Batman disappeared. Lucius Fox was not the only person aware of its existence.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:27 PM   #6506
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Here's how the dark knight rises ending plays out:

Chris Nolan: hey WB, can we kill Bruce Wayne?
WB: No.
Chris Nolan: well I'm going to write something where the audience thinks he dies and then he doesn't.
WB: great. I like our compromising meetings mr. Nolan.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:49 PM   #6507
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To be fair, The Bat was in development at Wayne Enterprises during the eight years that Batman disappeared. Lucius Fox was not the only person aware of its existence.
Yeah, 'The Bat' wasn't it's technical designation, so Wayne could've worked on it in whatever capacity without drawing attention to his alter ego. And even if someone at Wayne Enterprises recognised it out on the street while Bats was piloting it, we'd get the scene with Lucius and that wannabe-blackmailer employee from TDK all over again.
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:01 AM   #6508
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The ending definitely actually happened and wasn't a dream. If The Dark Knight Rises came out before Inception came out, no one would have been saying this "the ending was a dream" stuff for two years.

And why would Alfred imagine Bruce with Selina? Like Alfred would fantasize about Bruce with a lady, and say "You know who would be great for Bruce? That woman I met one time who robbed us."

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Old 12-10-2014, 12:05 AM   #6509
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And why would Alfred imagine Bruce with Selina? Like Alfred would fantasize about Bruce with a lady, and say "You know who would be great for Bruce? That woman I met one time who robbed us."

But he did, earlier in the movie.
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:31 AM   #6510
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I can't believe anyone in their right mind would believe that was a dream/fantasy.
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I can't believe anyone in their right mind would believe that was a dream/fantasy.
It's a Christopher Nolan film. Have you seen Inception or Interstellar?
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:54 AM   #6512
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It's a Christopher Nolan film. Have you seen Inception or Interstellar?
It's a C Nolan Batman film though.. If you saw the first two movies you know how rewarding they are to fans. I haven't seen Interstellar yet, this weekend hopefully
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:58 AM   #6513
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It's a Christopher Nolan film. Have you seen Inception or Interstellar?
There are no dreams or fantasies in Interstellar. Inception is the only film he's made that has an actually ambiguous ending.

Since then his fans keep thinking EVERY movie he makes takes place in their main character's head.
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:14 PM   #6514
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I can finally add this to my collection!!!

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Old 12-19-2014, 10:27 PM   #6515
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^ Wicked!!!
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:19 AM   #6516
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Indeed it is! It's going to look great next to the Batpod
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Does anyone have the Target digibook they're looking to sell?
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Does anyone have TDKR with the Dark Knight Reborn doc they wouldn't mind selling?
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So I'm 4 years late on this, but The Dark Knight Reborn doc:

Does it cover anything that The Fire Rises doesn't? I'd hate to waste time searching for it if it's just more of the same.
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:37 PM   #6520
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Watched this last night during Bat-fever. I'm sure the whole transfer looks great but MAN do those Imax scenes make the rest of the movie look like garbage by comparison.
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