Bumblebee 4K UHD (2018)

[mar3o]

There's clearly a sync issue. Check out 1:00:28 - exactly as the mean girl taps her hand twice on the inside of the car window after making the awful "joke" about her father buying her a better car. The taps are clearly out of sync - the sound is late. I definitely can see the sync issue throughout the film, since the lip sync is noticeably off. Just slightly, but enough to be very annoying and unacceptable for a modern film. Those who aren't noticing it either just aren't picking up on it, or maybe their receiver is compensating.

This should get a replacement program.

While they're at it, give us the 3D version as well so we have choices. But they won't do that, so at least fix the sync.

[trekky76]

Originally Posted by mar3o

There's clearly a sync issue. Check out 1:00:28 - exactly as the mean girl taps her hand twice on the inside of the car window after making the awful "joke" about her father buying her a better car. The taps are clearly out of sync - the sound is late.

Just tested my disc and it's all good. Zero issues that scene.

[Fat Phil]

I didn't notice any pervasive audio sync issue (US disc) and I was looking pretty hard (well, as hard as I cared to while enjoying the movie ). Sony X800 sending the audio only to a Denon Receiver. Video straight to the TV.

Dialogue sync for the most part looked natural, likewise gunfire, explosions etc.

Having said that, there did seem to be a dubious moment or two. The bit that mar3o mentioned (the double tap on the car door) did catch my eye as being out.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by trekky76

Just tested my disc and it's all good. Zero issues that scene.

Well something's clearly wrong if so many are noticing the issue. As I said, maybe your equipment is auto-correcting the delay? I can't see why some discs would have the issue and some don't - that doesn't make any sense.

Also, not everyone is as sensitive to sync issues. I've had sync issues that I considered very annoying yet my girlfriend couldn't even see. Then again sometimes she can on some discs.

[trekky76]

Well it would certainly help if users with issues posted their setups.
It's like some folks keep complaining about disc that freeze or won't play but I've only experienced that one single time.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by mar3o

There's clearly a sync issue. Check out 1:00:28 - exactly as the mean girl taps her hand twice on the inside of the car window after making the awful "joke" about her father buying her a better car. The taps are clearly out of sync - the sound is late. I definitely can see the sync issue throughout the film, since the lip sync is noticeably off. Just slightly, but enough to be very annoying and unacceptable for a modern film. Those who aren't noticing it either just aren't picking up on it, or maybe their receiver is compensating.

Originally Posted by mar3o

Well something's clearly wrong if so many are noticing the issue. As I said, maybe your equipment is auto-correcting the delay? I can't see why some discs would have the issue and some don't - that doesn't make any sense.

Also, not everyone is as sensitive to sync issues. I've had sync issues that I considered very annoying yet my girlfriend couldn't even see. Then again sometimes she can on some discs.

Or maybe your (and others) systems are CAUSING the issue? I just played it straight through my Sony UHD player to the TV, no sound bar, no receiver, nothing, and the taps are not out of synch.

And it's very well documented that some people CAN have issues while others can't based on systems and system setups, decoding between various components, etc.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Or maybe your (and others) systems are CAUSING the issue? I just played it straight through my Sony UHD player to the TV, no sound bar, no receiver, nothing, and the taps are not out of synch.

And it's very well documented that some people CAN have issues while others can't based on systems and system setups, decoding between various components, etc.

Especially since more than one poster has reported the disc both in synch on some plays and out of synch playing the disc at a different time making no changes in teh system.

As to why the same exact system is giving different results I don't know

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by y2jman

I got this amazon today I notice the sync was mess up chapter 11 when cena was talking to that army guy but I took disc out notice smudges on 4k disc I got green hankerchief clean disc put it back in sony x800 sound didn't cut off no more and was able to get into chapter 12 with no problems

what time stamp is the sync stuff supposed to happen at?
my software player is not showing chapters for this

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

OK, received my used copy of this yesterday and finally watched it for the first time. Never saw it in the theater. For the technical record, I had NO sync issues with audio. Watched it in Dolby vision and the atmos soundtrack. Presentation was flawless for the most part. PQ was mostly great with some black levels slightly raised here and there but hardly an issue. Detail and colors were super awesome. Sound was excellent. I also love that it was framed in 1.78. LOVE the full screen and lack of bars!

As for the movie itself.....hmmmmmm. Not really sold at this point but will have to watch once more to fully assess. IMO, it was too focused on Charlie and felt more like a teenager version of what a TF film would be. Maybe that was the goal but I actually feel the first Bay TF movie did a better overall job than bumblebee as far as feeling more epic or whatever. I know, the first TF is somewhat bloated and too long but it just felt more serious or something like that.

Charlie was an OK character. Pretty standard "teen that’s sort of an outcast, has strange skills for a girl and lost her dad". We’ve seen this before in various forms. The boyfriend kid was OK too I guess. John Cena can’t act and we’ll just leave it at that. The opening scenes were great and we did get some backstory but overall this just felt too much about her and not enough of a prequel to the Transformers universe. I dunno. It wasn’t a bad movie but IMO it was a little disappointing, at least this first viewing. We’ll see if that changes with another try later in the week or by the weekend.

interesting, I actually though the opening stuff was the worst part of the film and it got way better once Charlie appeared

[Socko]

My italian Bumblebee is on its way.
My Constantine from Italy was out of sync though.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

interesting, I actually though the opening stuff was the worst part of the film and it got way better once Charlie appeared

That’s cool, not everyone will see things the same way. I’ll have to watch it again but it wasn’t as good as I was expecting but that does happen when something gets rave reviews and the "bar" gets set quite high.

It’s certainly miles ahead of any of the Bay films except the first one which I still like better than bumblebee.

[Cobolisdead]

I just saw this last night, and it was awesome! Definitely my favorite transformers film since 1986!

The Good:
The opening scene on Cybertron was awesome!
The Blitzwing battle was epic!
Charlie was a great character, and not annoying at all.
Bumblebee was pretty cool as a character.
The Decepticons were pretty awesome in this too!

The Bad:

It really didn't make me believe that they were in 1987. Sure they had cassettes and Vinyl, but it just didn't seem like 1980s in ways that Stranger Things does.

The Ugly:

Why did Bumblebee just have a designation? Everyone else had a name, why not him?

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Cobolisdead

I just saw this last night, and it was awesome! Definitely my favorite transformers film since 1986!

The Good:
The opening scene on Cybertron was awesome!
The Blitzwing battle was epic!
Charlie was a great character, and not annoying at all.
Bumblebee was pretty cool as a character.
The Decepticons were pretty awesome in this too!

The Bad:

It really didn't make me believe that they were in 1987. Sure they had cassettes and Vinyl, but it just didn't seem like 1980s in ways that Stranger Things does.

The Ugly:

Why did Bumblebee just have a designation? Everyone else had a name, why not him?

I hate the way they do it, it really bugs me.

[Cobolisdead]

Well, in this, they kind of just throw 80's references out in conversation, but you don't feel like it's the 80s.

[Member-167298]

Absolutely loving this track from Bumblebee right now...

Hailee Steinfeld - Back To Life (Live from The Voice / 2018) - YouTube

Hailee can do it all!

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Cobolisdead

Well, in this, they kind of just throw 80's references out in conversation, but you don't feel like it's the 80s.

I gotta disagree. It had a very 80s feel just as a film. And all of the scenes in the house, at the garage and at the amusement park looked super 80s. Plus the soundtrack.

Originally Posted by Cobolisdead

It really didn't make me believe that they were in 1987. Sure they had cassettes and Vinyl, but it just didn't seem like 1980s in ways that Stranger Things does.

Seemed very 80s to me. More prime 80s than Stranger Things S1 (will watch S2 soon). Also in ST S1 some of them were too young to really even have prime style and many kids of that age back then were still in the soup bowl haircut and all situation.

In Bumblebee, all the things in the home were very 80s. The amusement park scenes, all the cars there, the color, the clothes, very prime 80s. The cheap hotel when the guy's car got blown to bits seemed 80s. The music was prime 80s 80s. And it did a vastly better 1987 than Adventureland which was mostly more like 1977, 1997 and 2007 than 1987 (other than for some of LisaP, but then she was sort of overdone a bit in clothes at times, and also oddly made to seem like the odd one out almost). Adventureland still had all the kids using nothing but records in 1987! No CDs. No tapes/walkman. The cars all looked like 70s cars. The style in the homes looked too old, more like maybe their grandparents homes might have still looked. It had the brainy top of the class kid smoking cigarettes and sitting around getting high summer nights, totally NOT what that sort was doing in '87. In '77 or '97 maybe but not '87. Anyway, not that I should be going on about Adventureland since you didn't even bring that one up. But ST S1 almost had a trace more of an Adventureland feel than Bumblebee, although it did do a better 80s than Adventureland did 87. It will be interesting to see if they go full on prime 80s look for ST S2/S3 or still try to stick a bit more early 80s, afraid to quite do it sort of thing.


The only thing is it was a little weak on the big hair (but not exactly like the others got that). And at least Charlie had a sort of Joan Jett-ish hair while in Em in Adventureland had pure hair from the year the film was shot and Em was all obsessed with Lou Reed and that was made to seem totally mainstream for 1987 when it wasn't at all, at least Charlie's obsession made more sense for the year.

For curiosity, how old were you in 1987 and what post 80s movies/shows set in the 80s do you think get the 80s feel/look down the best?

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by PrestonXI

Absolutely loving this track from Bumblebee right now...

Hailee can do it all!

yeah nice song, a blending of the 80s and today

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Or maybe your (and others) systems are CAUSING the issue? I just played it straight through my Sony UHD player to the TV, no sound bar, no receiver, nothing, and the taps are not out of synch.

And it's very well documented that some people CAN have issues while others can't based on systems and system setups, decoding between various components, etc.

If my system is causing the issue, why are no other discs having sync issues?

[Cobolisdead]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

Seemed very 80s to me. More prime 80s than Stranger Things S1 (will watch S2 soon). Also in ST S1 some of them were too young to really even have prime style and many kids of that age back then were still in the soup bowl haircut and all situation.

......

Adventureland still had all the kids using nothing but records in 1987! No CDs. No tapes/walkman. The cars all looked like 70s cars. The style in the homes looked too old, more like maybe their grandparents homes might have still looked. It had the brainy top of the class kid smoking cigarettes and sitting around getting high summer nights, totally NOT what that sort was doing in '87. In '77 or '97 maybe but not '87. Anyway, not that I should be going on about Adventureland since you didn't even bring that one up. But ST S1 almost had a trace more of an Adventureland feel than Bumblebee, although it did do a better 80s than Adventureland did 87. It will be interesting to see if they go full on prime 80s look for ST S2/S3 or still try to stick a bit more early 80s, afraid to quite do it sort of thing.



For curiosity, how old were you in 1987 and what post 80s movies/shows set in the 80s do you think get the 80s feel/look down the best?

I was seven in 1987. We still listened to a lot of Vinyl back then, heck, I had my on record player. Tapes were used a lot too, but mostly for recording music off the radio and a few pre-recorded tapes to have in the car.


I never saw Adventureland, but I will make a note to check it out.

[stigdu]

I received my US copy from WOW HD today, and it comes with some sort of little comic which is literally about 3 or 4mm bigger than the case, so it doesn't fit inside.

Why on earth do the manufacturers do stuff like that? It's quite annoying!