Reservoir Dogs 4K UHD (1992) - Page 33 - Blu-ray Forum

RegressiveScan · 11-09-2022, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CBMe

Watching the new blu-ray vs the old ...

Ah ha... so I take it that this is confirmation that the included 2K Blu disc uses the new scan/master, and it's not the old Blu with the lousy picture quality? Please confirm...

CBMe · 11-10-2022, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RegressiveScan

Ah ha... so I take it that this is confirmation that the included 2K Blu disc uses the new scan/master, and it's not the old Blu with the lousy picture quality? Please confirm...

Yes. They didn't cheap out fortunately.

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PonyoBellanote · 11-10-2022, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CBMe

Yes. They didn't cheap out fortunately.

Mercy, good riddance that they thought well instead of just reusing the super ancient old disc. It was 15 years old, damn it. It'd have been an embarassment..

Brian81 · 11-10-2022, 01:22 AM

My Reservoir Dogs was a rotter so I ordered a new copy of the shitty disc a few years back. At least it was cheap the second time around.

mfan1986 · 11-10-2022, 02:09 AM

Do we know if they used the original camera negative as the HD source? Also does the standard BluRay disc include the new transfer?

Retroj23 · 11-10-2022, 02:22 AM

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chewbabka · 11-10-2022, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle15

Good god that old disc is horrifying. The grain is so light anyway you gotta wonder why they did a DNR pass. Loonies!! lmao

Could it have been the DVD master?

RegressiveScan · 11-10-2022, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Retroj23

"How many dicks was that?"

... A lot!

Zapp Brannigan · 11-10-2022, 03:14 AM

SpazeBlue · 11-10-2022, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mfan1986

Also does the standard BluRay disc include the new transfer?

...Dude. Look four posts above yours.

Monterey Jack · 11-10-2022, 04:21 AM

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SolutionbubbleS · 11-10-2022, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

Mercy, good riddance that they thought well instead of just reusing the super ancient old disc. It was 15 years old, damn it. It'd have been an embarassment..

Happy to hear that the new Blu-ray will be included. The old German Blu-ray looked as shitty AND they cut one whole sentence of the original audio track.

Would be interesting to find out in the end if the new German Blu-ray looses again with a lower video bitrate because of course they had to add an German ATMOS track

But since we will probably never find out about that - which is a pretty annoying phenomenon in general - I ordered the US Standard Edition which is the cheapest option anyways.

Thanks to the members contributing the tech specs of the discs!

mfan1986 · 11-10-2022, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

...Dude. Look four posts above yours.

Sweet, thanks 🙂

SpaceBlackKnight · 11-10-2022, 05:33 AM

As for audio, Reservoir Dogs was mixed 4-channel LRCS native meaning the 2.0 mixes are matrixed Dolby Stereo/Surround.

However, the 5.1 mix was done not long after the theatrical release and first used on a AC3 Laserdisc and the original DVD release. This mix is really a discrete presentation of the 4ch LRCS (even the rear mono is duped to two rear channels and hardly any LFE). It was tweaked a bit for the 5.1 EX DVD (some lines/SFX went missing and others lowered in volume) and then with lines corrected for the 7.1 BD/HD-DVD mix.

Fjodor2000 · 11-10-2022, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I don’t get the 4,000 nits container either. Is there some advantage to that I don’t know of? It seems to me it just makes the HDR more difficult tone map, especially with such a low peak brightness. You’d think 1,000 nits should have just been standardized for HDR from the beginning.

The drawback is also that you are losing precision. The same 10 bits for each pixel will have to be used to represent the range 0-4000 nits, instead of 0-1000 nits. So the color gradation will be coarser.

Now if there are actually pixels which are brighter than than 1000 nits, then the 0-4000 nits range will of course be needed. But for this movie the MaxCLL (i.e. the brightest pixel in the entire movie) is only 341* nits, so the range 1001-4000 will be unused anyway.

Finally, with regards to standardizing HDR to 0-1000 nits, I'm not so sure that is a good idea since there are actually several 4K BDs which have MaxCLL above 1000 nits. Also, there should be headroom for the format to "grow". So that it is possible to select max 1000, 4000 or even 10000 nits is perfectly fine, as long as it's used properly by the content producers.

* = Previously mentioned as 136 nits but that was for the streaming version apparently from what wright96d later wrote.

PonyoBellanote · 11-10-2022, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chewbabka

Could it have been the DVD master?

It was.

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mfan1986 Special Member Member since:Apr 2014	Do we know if they used the original camera negative as the HD source? Also does the standard BluRay disc include the new transfer?

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SpaceBlackKnight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:346 Digital collection:20	As for audio, Reservoir Dogs was mixed 4-channel LRCS native meaning the 2.0 mixes are matrixed Dolby Stereo/Surround. However, the 5.1 mix was done not long after the theatrical release and first used on a AC3 Laserdisc and the original DVD release. This mix is really a discrete presentation of the 4ch LRCS (even the rear mono is duped to two rear channels and hardly any LFE). It was tweaked a bit for the 5.1 EX DVD (some lines/SFX went missing and others lowered in volume) and then with lines corrected for the 7.1 BD/HD-DVD mix.

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