Fantastic Four (2015)

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

That's such a tired load of bull s***. Kid friendly my ass...they're rated PG-13 for a reason. Yes, kids younger than that can see these movies without being scarred but these movies aren't like the cheesy kiddy days of the 50's and 60's comics.



Once again it's that whole, "it's so uber cool to be dark and gritty and super serious!!11!1!".

So now Marvel won't ever go that route. Because of the backlash on dark and gritty, they have to throw in a bunch of one liners, and call it good.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

So now Marvel won't ever go that route. Because of the backlash on dark and gritty, they have to throw in a bunch of one liners, and call it good.

they don't call it good, the vast majority of moving going public call it good

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by spectre08

they don't call it good, the vast majority of moving going public call it good

That's cause they like playground comebacks.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by mrr1

Not the way he has been portrayed in the movies.

Dr Doom is up there with Magneto and the Joker as one of the greatest comic villains of all time. I guarantee if Marvel got to use Dr Doom in a movie they would do him right, and he would be like Darth Vader.

Interestingly Magneto and the Joker are some of the few supervillains done right - and also pursue a dark edge too. A murderous Holocaust survivor and the criminally insane villain of the Nolan trilogy. Loki is portrayed pretty good too, but not quite as dark.

Originally Posted by mrjeff

Why shouldn't Marvel movies be kid friendly? You think they make this stuff for adults only?

Hello, Deadpool.

IMO I think it's a balance. Finding a way to entertain both kids and adults without going to ULTIMATE HEAD-CRUSHING PROFANITY DESTRUCTION; HERE'S A SEX SCENE but also without going to LOOK AT ALL THESE BRIGHT COLOURS, THROWAWAY PLOTLINES AND YAY EVERYONE'S HAPPY

Which I think Days of Future Past and Winter Soldier succeeded rather well at.

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

That's such a tired load of bull s***. Kid friendly my ass...they're rated PG-13 for a reason. Yes, kids younger than that can see these movies without being scarred but these movies aren't like the cheesy kiddy days of the 50's and 60's comics.

Once again it's that whole, "it's so uber cool to be dark and gritty and super serious!!11!1!".

Ant-Man could've been PG

[Underworld54]

Trank is finished directing in Hollywood.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Trank is finished directing in Hollywood.

lol

not likely.

but his next project will probably be in the $50m ballpark instead of the $100m ballpark

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Ant-Man could've been PG

Eh, possibly. These movies should be enjoyed by Most age groups but it's getting annoying when people are saying they're childish and stupid. Goes back to me saying for the umpteenth f***ing time, then don't watch them...

[bobbydrugar]

Could not agree more hellraiser. This COD grey brown generation always conflating gritty/colorless/lifeless/depressing with good and unable to accept that something that is fun can also be good. If someone doesn't enjoy a certain aesthetic or tone then they should probably avoid it rather than try to force it to go away. its the whole if its not my opinion then it must be destroyed, instead of well its not my opinion but others seem to like it so good for them.

T

[Foggy]

Yeah, Trank will be back, set back of course, but he'll likely work on a smaller film or do some TV before we'll see a major release from him, likely he'll re-invent himself.

[bobbydrugar]

I sure hope your right. So far he looks to be a director that will never really appeal to me personally (I didn't care for chronicle at all and this movie will probably not really be seen by me until its on TV someday) however from the sounds of things there are many who do like his previous work so who am i to stand in the way of them having future viewing experiences that they may enjoy from Trank.

T

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by spectre08

lol

not likely.

but his next project will probably be in the $50m ballpark instead of the $100m ballpark

I don't know. Another very public spat between director and studio over a Hollywood movie involved Tony Kaye and New Line over American History X and aside from a couple of low budget films over a decade later, he was pretty much done as a director.

Granted, Kaye went further than Trank by trying to have his name removed from the film and I think even threatening a lawsuit, but keep in mind that American History X is widely regarded as a terrific piece of cinematic work. You'd think that kind of reception would ensure a future in filmmaking for the dude, but he was essentially blacklisted.

I have no idea what Trank's future is in Hollywood, but odds are if he's gonna direct anything anytime soon, it's gonna have a very small budget.

[Johnny Blu]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

Could not agree more hellraiser. This COD grey brown generation always conflating gritty/colorless/lifeless/depressing with good and unable to accept that something that is fun can also be good. If someone doesn't enjoy a certain aesthetic or tone then they should probably avoid it rather than try to force it to go away. its the whole if its not my opinion then it must be destroyed, instead of well its not my opinion but others seem to like it so good for them.

T

I own all, if not most, of the Marvel movies and I enjoy them very much. My family and I always have a blast when we see them at the theater. However, I never mentioned that Marvel needs to make their movies darker in tone to be more enjoyable. My point was Marvel doesn't seem to put as much effort into their villains as compared to their super heroes. I know everyone likes to mention The Dark Knight and its darker theme, but I see it as Christopher Nolan put as much effort into The Joker as he did for Batman. I have never gotten that sense of balance in a Marvel movie.

[pi2loc]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Fantastic Four>Chronicle.

Never.

[Johnny Blu]

Two questions about the Fantastic Four. How can the rights revert back to Marvel from Fox? Are the plans still in the works for Fantastic Four 2, or have they already been scrapped?

[The_Walking_Dead]

Doom is coming back for the Fantastic Four sequel
"EXCLUSIVE FIRST LOOK AT Doom For the Fantastic Four Sequel"

[bobbydrugar]

looks about right.

T

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by Johnny Blu

Two questions about the Fantastic Four. How can the rights revert back to Marvel from Fox? Are the plans still in the works for Fantastic Four 2, or have they already been scrapped?

Fox said they haven't given up and still have plans. Plus the rights are a deal with Constantin Filmproduktion anyway.

[mrr1]

Let's see what Fox says after we see bins in stores everywhere full of discounted copies of their Fantastic 4 movie.

Until then I don't trust a word they say.

[doctorD]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Ant-Man could've been PG

I think the profanity is what made the difference.