Fantastic Four (2015)

[pi2loc]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

For those who saw Fantastic Four 2015 and didn't care for it, did you see Trank's Chronicle and what did you think about it?

I have seen Chronicle and loved it. I feel bad for Trank and the debacle of Fantastic Four. I would go as far as saying the main reason the movie tanked was the studio and Trank not being able to manage such a massive big-budget production.

[levcore]

Yeah I loved Chronicle and Thought Trank showed real promise with that.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

I know right? It wasn't like Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and X-Men: DoFP were my two favourite films from last summer or anything... Oh wait...
EVERY studio has duds every now and then, whether comercially or critically, or both

Yeah, it's not like they produced the last two Best Picture winners or anything.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

I know right? It wasn't like Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and X-Men: DoFP were my two favourite films from last summer or anything... Oh wait...
EVERY studio has duds every now and then, whether comercially or critically, or both

This went beyond being a dud, this was a PR nightmare...it's embarrassing.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by levcore

Yeah I loved Chronicle and Thought Trank showed real promise with that.

Fantastic Four>Chronicle.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Fantastic Four>Chronicle.

[Show spoiler]

[Armorales102]

I thought the first half of Fantastic Four was pretty solid, the movie was obviously tampered with and the final 30-40 minutes are a complete disaster but I still liked it more than the other Fantastic Four movies and I liked it more than The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Fantastic Four is a bad movie but a sequel with this cast could still work but they might need to throw in a few X-Men if they want the sequel to successful.

I find it mind boggling that some critics are saying this is worse than the Joel Shumacher Batman movies, not true at all. It's bad but totally watchable

[mrr1]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

maybe in the sequel, they'll use the deleted material from this movie and hire a new director to add more scenes into it again to reach 90 minutes.

It will be another sure hit!

[mrr1]

Originally Posted by spectre08

I just don't think Dr. Doom is that compelling a villain.

Not the way he has been portrayed in the movies.

Dr Doom is up there with Magneto and the Joker as one of the greatest comic villains of all time. I guarantee if Marvel got to use Dr Doom in a movie they would do him right, and he would be like Darth Vader.

[Johnny Blu]

I haven't had a chance to see this yet, and I could care less what critics have to say about any movie, but I find it very disturbing that Walts Ghost only gave this one star in the poll. I do respect his opinion and look forward to his reviews. Having said that, I find it almost impossible to believe that Fantastic Four could be worse than Chronicle. If it's even close, then Josh Trank should never be allowed to touch another comic book based movie again.

BTW, I find it completely bush league that Josh Trank is trying to put all of the blame on the studio for the poor reviews and showing to date. If he can't take bad press, then maybe he is in the wrong profession. I'm sure if the movie received rave reviews and was doing well at the box office, then Josh would have taken 100% of the credit.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by mrr1

Not the way he has been portrayed in the movies.

Dr Doom is up there with Magneto and the Joker as one of the greatest comic villains of all time. I guarantee if Marvel got to use Dr Doom in a movie they would do him right, and he would be like Darth Vader.

again, why? I've never read any comics with him in them, what makes him so great?

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by spectre08

again, why? I've never read any comics with him in them, what makes him so great?

Because he wears a skirt.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by mrr1

Not the way he has been portrayed in the movies.

Dr Doom is up there with Magneto and the Joker as one of the greatest comic villains of all time. I guarantee if Marvel got to use Dr Doom in a movie they would do him right, and he would be like Darth Vader.

Couldn't be worse than metrosexual dork Loki.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Couldn't be worse than metrosexual dork Loki.

[Johnny Blu]

Originally Posted by mrr1

Not the way he has been portrayed in the movies.

Dr Doom is up there with Magneto and the Joker as one of the greatest comic villains of all time. I guarantee if Marvel got to use Dr Doom in a movie they would do him right, and he would be like Darth Vader.

I assume your joking about Marvel using Dr Doom correctly? Marvel is more worried about their movies being kid friendly and focus their efforts on the good super hero characters, while seemingly brushing off the villians and making them almost an afterthought.

[mrjeff]

Originally Posted by Johnny Blu

I assume your joking about Marvel using Dr Doom correctly? Marvel is more worried about their movies being kid friendly and focus their efforts on the good super hero characters, while seemingly brushing off the villians and making them almost an afterthought.

Why shouldn't Marvel movies be kid friendly? You think they make this stuff for adults only?

[wonderboy]

I mean it wasn't terrible. I think critics jumped on the bandwagon and wanted to trash it all together. I didn't feel like it was a complete waste of time. It wasn't as good as other superhero movies, but it was still better than Watchman

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by wonderboy

I mean it wasn't terrible. I think critics jumped on the bandwagon and wanted to trash it all together. I didn't feel like it was a complete waste of time. It wasn't as good as other superhero movies, but it was still better than Watchman

Watchman is a masterpiece

[Doctor Jack]

This debacle is the gift that keeps on giving. About Trank's behavior frrom an article by The Hollywood Reporter...

(The highlights taken from a comicbookmovie.com article)

•Trank apparently didn't produce good enough material to ever create a film which could be salvaged, and refused help from the studio and producers. "He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody," one insider tells the site. "He built a black tent around his monitor. He was extremely withdrawn. [He] would go to his trailer and he wouldn’t interact with anybody."

•While Fox initially had faith in Trank's vision of a grounded and gritty Fantastic Four movie, it appears as if the filmmaker took that too far as he forced a gloomy tone on the movie by obsessing over the cast's performance. "During takes, he would be telling [cast members] when to blink and when to breathe.
He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."

•You may remember some time ago that Josh Trank and his dogs were accused of causing as much as $100,000 worth of damage to a house which was rented for him in Baton Rouge by Fox. After landlord Martin Padial made moves to evict the director, "photographs of the landlord’s family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff’s department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed.The sheriff’s department says the case was 'closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant.'"

•Before you completely blame Trank for how Fantastic Four turned out, one source says that the movie was always "ill-conceived, made for the wrong reasons and there was no vision behind the property." Fox were terrified of losing the rights to Marvel and the reboot was in chaos before shooting even started. They "were afraid of losing the rights so they pressed forward and didn’t surround [Trank] with help or fire him. They buried their heads in the sand."

•While they initially considered firing Trank, Fox had faith in the director and believed he could be the next J.J. Abrams. However, as it became apparent that he couldn't cope with the movie, it was simply to late to ditch him. "How do you ask someone to take over half of a movie shot by someone else? You either hire somebody desperate for work or you [start over], write off pretty much the whole budget and lose the cast."

•Those reshoots have been blamed for the poor quality of Fantastic Four, but the movie apparently didn't even have an ending when shooting concluded. Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker scrambled to come up with something, but the former's busy schedule and the fact that much of the cast was unavailable led to "a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. 'It was chaos,' says a crew member, adding that Trank was still in attendance 'but was neutralized by a committee.'"

•Who was responsible for that terrible ending and second act? Fox reportedly put together a dream team to rescue the move, and that included Drew Goddard. Whatever he and the rest of that team did obviously failed horribly!

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Blu

Marvel is more worried about their movies being kid friendly.

That's such a tired load of bull s***. Kid friendly my ass...they're rated PG-13 for a reason. Yes, kids younger than that can see these movies without being scarred but these movies aren't like the cheesy kiddy days of the 50's and 60's comics.

Once again it's that whole, "it's so uber cool to be dark and gritty and super serious!!11!1!".