Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Indy64

But it was you that said/insinuated Blu was better than any "streaming" method wasn't it?

It is. The whole picture is far more solid. If you don’t mind artefacts, knock yourself out.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by turns2stone

I pointed out earlier, streaming can co-exist with physical media. Best of both!

Wait a minute... you're not even doing 4K yet? C'mon on in, the water's fine. And just for good measure: "yes", 4K streaming is better than 1080p on disc

I couldn’t upgrade last year due to personal reasons. This year for sure.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Indy64

Assuming there are discs to upgrade to. Odds are by the time you think "it's time" to switch, it will be mostly 4K streaming.

Oh yeah, because 4K disc is going to die by 2018!

Are you on PayPal? Let’s have a wager. Disc or Digital HD (not subscription) to hang around longer.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by WestMan

How are people running out of space so easily in their place? Does everybody live in NYC? lol

I've been in enough ~2,000 square foot houses where people have way too much junk and then complain they don't have room for stuff. I'm very organized and I've never run out of space for my stuff and I haven't live in big places before.

Some us live in apartments. Technically yes I could by a large media shelf but I'm not sure my wife would approve.

[Indy64]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It is. The whole picture is far more solid. If you don’t mind artefacts, knock yourself out.

What are "artefacts"??

Never been an issue for me. Maybe you need to check your set up.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Some us live in apartments. Technically yes I could by a large media shelf but I'm not sure my wife would approve.

I do, I still manage 700 discs and I’m a neat freak.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Indy64

What are "artefacts"??

Never been an issue for me. Maybe you need to check your set up.

[Indy64]

Seriously, you may have system issues if you are having enough artifacts that cause you to have issues enjoying a movie.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Indy64

Seriously, you may have system issues if you are having enough artifacts that cause you to have issues enjoying a movie.

I have no issues at all.

About that wager?

Hello? Indy?

[Vilya]

"Artefact" is just a British spelling of the word "artifact."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/artefact

I can empathize somewhat with the space issue; you should see how much room 7,000 of these things take! I am always looking for better shelving ideas.

I would like to see what streaming is technically capable of, but the internet utopia that many of you enjoy has not reached my little hamlet of 1,600 people. The big telecoms don't seem to care about those of us in tiny towns.

I would probably have an all-you-can-eat buffet style streaming service, or two, along with my physical library if stable, high quality internet ever gets here. I doubt I will ever buy digital content, but I can see some value in subscription streaming services.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by turns2stone

I pointed out earlier, streaming can co-exist with physical media. Best of both!

Wait a minute... you're not even doing 4K yet? C'mon on in, the water's fine. And just for good measure: "yes", 4K streaming is better than 1080p on disc

Is it bollocks.

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Is it bollocks.

I doubt you can really tell the difference between disc and digital. People like to assume they can but I think in reality from a normal viewing distance one couldn't tell the difference unless you knew beforehand and then your personal bias would cloud your judgement.

[WestMan]

Originally Posted by flyry

Some us live in apartments. Technically yes I could by a large media shelf but I'm not sure my wife would approve.

I've lived in apartments before. I've lived in a smaller house. And I would say each time I lived within my means and I had room for what I wanted. I'm not implying that you don't, I'm saying I have never had that problem.

Like I said before, I have also seen a lot of people with bigger houses, and they never have room. I live in the North, and it amazes me how people can have so much junk that they can't even park their cars in the garage when a major snow storm is coming. Often times the problem with storage is mindset not actual space. Similar to how two people can make the same amount of money. Where one person always has ample money in the bank and the other person is always living paycheck to paycheck. It's all about how you keep things organized....

[WestSideBomber]

I tend to prefer physical over streaming in most cases. In my opinion...

Blu-ray > 1080 streaming
4K streaming > Blu-ray
4K Blu-ray > 4K streaming


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[graf1k]

Originally Posted by WestSideBomber

I tend to prefer physical over streaming in most cases. In my opinion...

Blu-ray > 1080 streaming
4K streaming > Blu-ray
4K Blu-ray > 4K streaming


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Quality wise, I'd agree with that. I just don't think the difference between 4K BDs and 4K streaming is great enough for me to care but to each their own.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by WestSideBomber

I tend to prefer physical over streaming in most cases. In my opinion...

Blu-ray > 1080 streaming
4K streaming > Blu-ray
4K Blu-ray > 4K streaming


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I'll co-sign this. I have no issues whatsoever with UHD streaming. (or any for that matter)

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Indy64

Assuming there are discs to upgrade to. Odds are by the time you think "it's time" to switch, it will be mostly 4K streaming.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Oh yeah, because 4K disc is going to die by 2018!

Are you on PayPal? Let’s have a wager. Disc or Digital HD (not subscription) to hang around longer.

I keep saying it's all Digital, just the form of distribution will change. Discs will keep getting more expensive, and people want the best price for their Movie watching and Collecting. Digital HD is the normal progression, and I say Personal Movie Collections will go on Servers. Those Servers can be located anywhere for the best Streaming Access.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I keep saying it's all Digital, just the form of distribution will change. Discs will keep getting more expensive, and people want the best price for their Movie watching and Collecting. Digital HD is the normal progression, and I say Personal Movie Collections will go on Servers. Those Servers can be located anywhere for the best Streaming Access.

As someone who buys discs, a lot of them and often, I have not noticed them getting any more expensive. New release blu-rays are typically $20 or less while new 4K discs are about $25. After they have been out awhile, they can drop far lower during sales events.

People want the best price for anything they buy, but many people are willing to pay more for quality wherever they perceive that to be.

Movie ownership on physical media is declining, with the only growth being with 4K discs. "...4K Ultra HD titles in the market (experienced) a growth rate of 187% over the prior year." Growth of digital ownership is modest. "...the electronic purchase of movies and other filmed content, up nearly 6%." The greatest growth, in digital, lies with subscription services. "...consumer spending on streaming jumping more than 31%." It would appear that many people just want access and do not care about owning movies and TV shows.

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/consum...eat-recession/

https://forum.blu-ray.com/attachment...1&d=1515529654

My crystal ball says all three of these: discs, digital copies, and streaming will co-exist for quite a long time allowing all of us our preferred option. I would not bet on any of them disappearing even in my lifetime.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Vilya

As someone who buys discs, a lot of them and often, I have not noticed them getting any more expensive. New release blu-rays are typically $20 or less while new 4K discs are about $25. After they have been out awhile, they can drop far lower during sales events.

People want the best price for anything they buy, but many people are willing to pay more for quality wherever they perceive that to be.

Movie ownership on physical media is declining, with the only growth being with 4K discs. Growth of digital ownership varies from flat to slight. The greatest growth lies with subscription services. It would appear that many people just want access and do not care about owning movies and TV.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/attachment...1&d=1515529654

My crystal ball says all three of these: discs, digital copies, and streaming will co-exist for quite a long time allowing all of us our preferred option. I would not bet on any of them disappearing even in my lifetime.

WB prices are absurd and never seem to drop.(at least 4k) Seems like most titles I'm interested come from them as well.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

WB prices are absurd and never seem to drop.(at least 4k) Seems like most titles I'm interested come from them as well.

WB is pricey, but they drop eventually. They certainly make you wait for it to happen.