It (2017)

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I absolutely love the fact that we didn't hear Pennywise's voice. Actually, I want to hear his voice for the very first time when I am sitting in the dark theater to finally watch the movie

Me too but I'm sure the next trailer will spoil it.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by YoungCrazyBlu-RayFan

I think I just found a big piece of the puzzle of what lead Fukunaga to leave. I'm all sticking to the source material, but if it's something that could get people arrested, maybe you should cut somethings.

Fukunaga claimed that he left because 'the studio just wanted a bog-standard, cliched horror film,' but rumour has it that there's more to it than that. As well as aiming for an NC-17 rating, he wanted to play up the sexual element of the book by incorporating new material such as Henry Bowers having sex with a sheep.

[MikeScott]

With the buzz this has, if Warner Bros. is smart they will move Annabelle 2 to September and move "It" up to August. Then they can have the Annabelle trailer with "It" which is a sure-fire hit.

[CrazyBlu-RayFan]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Fukunaga claimed that he left because 'the studio just wanted a bog-standard, cliched horror film,' but rumour has it that there's more to it than that. As well as aiming for an NC-17 rating, he wanted to play up the sexual element of the book by incorporating new material such as Henry Bowers having sex with a sheep.

https://youtu.be/WH0z00t8OlM

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking. If that rumor is true then good riddance. There's nothing wrong with doing a tasteful exploration of children exploring sexuality. But there's a difference between the studio wanting a 'cliche horror film' and avoiding potentially illegal madness.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by MikeScott

With the buzz this has, if Warner Bros. is smart they will move Annabelle 2 to September and move "It" up to August. Then they can have the Annabelle trailer with "It" which is a sure-fire hit.

Wouldn't say sure-fire considering people really didn't like the first Annabelle. Plus for all we know, IT just had a good trailer and the film is actually abysmal.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by YoungCrazyBlu-RayFan

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking.

No lie. There were other things, too, like Henry ejaculating on a birthday cake, and Bev having her bare belly kissed by her father as he groped her. Fukunaka was adamant that they make it into the film, and departed when the studio wouldn't budge. They were otherwise happy with the script, though, and so the upcoming film will maintain most of it.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

I don't think the sex scene would be permitted even in a European art film!

(and call me a prude, but it's not a moment I'll be missing at all - perhaps I just didn't grasp its point when reading the book)

The sex scene in Stephen King's novel, IT, is uncomfortable, but I get where the author was coming from...

[Show spoiler]1. Beverly offers herself to the boys in order to calm them down when they are still lost in the sewer tunnels.
2. Beverly is reclaiming her free will and personal power by making this choice after being abused and belittled by her father for her entire life, and after dealing with the terror of Pennywise.
3. In 1950s Derry, Beverly dealt with sexual shaming from her father just because she hung out with the guys. In her father's eyes, and in the eyes of many a person in 1950s America, the absolute worse abomination that could happen in the world was for an adolescent girl to have sex. Even though the horrible murders of children are quietly accepted by the town, even when racism, hate, and such ran rampant, free love is frowned upon. Beverly's sex with the boys, as icky as it is, is likely a subconscious rebellion against the atmosphere of 1950s Derry, where certain horrors are accepted as a matter of course just so the town can continue to be "normal."
4. Finally, there's the whole "loss of childhood innocence" symbolism of the moment. The kids of The Loser's Club are now adults, after what they have experienced.

[CrazyBlu-RayFan]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

No lie. There were other things, too, like Henry ejaculating on a birthday cake, and Bev having her bare belly kissed by her father as he groped her. Fukunaka was adamant that they make it into the film, and departed when the studio wouldn't budge. They were otherwise happy with the script, though, and so the upcoming film will maintain most of it.

Jesus, okay I heard enough. Like I said, as this film looks good and accurate in the trailer, Fukunaka can go create his own illegal material and not ruin King's book.

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

The sex scene in Stephen King's novel, IT, is uncomfortable, but I get where the author was coming from...

[Show spoiler]1. Beverly offers herself to the boys in order to calm them down when they are still lost in the sewer tunnels.
2. Beverly is reclaiming her free will and personal power by making this choice after being abused and belittled by her father for her entire life, and after dealing with the terror of Pennywise.
3. In 1950s Derry, Beverly dealt with sexual shaming from her father just because she hung out with the guys. In her father's eyes, and in the eyes of many a person in 1950s America, the absolute worse abomination that could happen in the world was for an adolescent girl to have sex. Even though the horrible murders of children are quietly accepted by the town, even when racism, hate, and such ran rampant, free love is frowned upon. Beverly's sex with the boys, as icky as it is, was likely a subconscious rebellion against the atmosphere of 1950s Derry, where certain horrors are accepted as a matter of course just so the town can continue to be "normal."
4. Finally, there's the whole "loss of childhood innocence" symbolism of the moment. The kids of The Loser's Club are now adults, after what they have experienced.

Points 2, 3 and 4 do make a lot of thematic sense. If I ever read the book again I'll try to have your words in mind.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by YoungCrazyBlu-RayFan

Jesus, okay I heard enough. Like I said, as this film looks good and accurate in the trailer, Fukunaka can go create his own illegal material and not ruin King's book.

Not sure we should encourage him...

[UltraMario9]

Fukunaga is one of the best filmmakers working today. If the final film has even a trace of his artistic touch, we're in for a treat.

[CrazyBlu-RayFan]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Not sure we should encourage him...

No, but you at least shouldn't destroy existing literary material if you're gonna throw yourself in prison.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

As well as aiming for an NC-17 rating, he wanted to play up the sexual element of the book by incorporating new material such as Henry Bowers having sex with a sheep.

I must read this script. Calling out of work tomorrow.

[Buscemi]

I just watched the trailer and it looks more like a Stranger Things episode than it does It (moving the flashbacks to the 80's doesn't help, the media's hard-on for the decade is ridiculous). This is especially disappointing after all of the plans (two parts, hard R rating, the filming of subplots the miniseries dropped) there were for this.

And I feel hype will die down once the Inhumans trailer comes out. Once Marvel releases something, it breaks the Internet (and I'm not talking Kim Kardashian or Wreck-It Ralph breaking the Internet).

[Chaotic]

Ugh Im tired of hearing about Stranger Things. It wasn't the first thing to have a group of kids in the 80's.

[Buscemi]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Ugh Im tired of hearing about Stranger Things. It wasn't the first thing to have a group of kids in the 80's.

But it's the thing right now. Twin Peaks and Earthbound both did it better but people want their 80's nostalgia and still believe the words "a Netflix original" equal quality.

[mzupeman]

This trailer blew me away. Can. Not. Wait.

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Ugh Im tired of hearing about Stranger Things. It wasn't the first thing to have a group of kids in the 80's.

It might not have been the first thing but it was one of the stranger things

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

But it's the thing right now. Twin Peaks and Earthbound both did it better but people want their 80's nostalgia and still believe the words "a Netflix original" equal quality.

On the Show end of their originals, they are pretty much on pare with HBO and Showtime. Their films though, those have been a lot more hit or miss... more so since they are working with Sandler now.

[Buscemi]

Originally Posted by John Klein

On the Show end of their originals, they are pretty much on pare with HBO and Showtime. Their films though, those have been a lot more hit or miss... more so since they are working with Sandler now.

I'm not dismissing them completely. It's just a lot of them are overhyped and overpraised simply because people get the idea of that any show on Netflix is the greatest thing ever. Too many of their shows feel like more graphic versions of Fox shows and suffer from overlength and the lack of restraint. And The Ranch would one be considered one of the worst shows on television if it were on any other network.