'Mars Needs Moms' one of the biggest bombs ever.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

What does that have to do with Apple though? Does Apple deserve credit because Jobs' money came thanks to Apple's success (which came thanks to Jobs leadership)?

I don't get what you're saying

[Jimmy Smith]

Having seen the movie I can say it was better then I expected and didn't deserve to flop so badly. It definutely ain't Pixar quality. Some of the characters can be annoying and some of the movies plot doesn't make much sense. The whole interspecies romance was more then alittle creepy. Still I probably liked this better then many Dreamworks animated movies. And as I said before the movie puts importance on traditional family and in a culture that is increasingly at war with the traditional family this is a welcome breath of fresh air.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

Disney isn't the studio they used to be that's for sure.
Walt probably has permanent brain damage from rolling over in his grave so many times due to all the mindless dreck Disney has put out over the last 4 years.

Cremated, man.

[cubs_2000]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Having seen the movie I can say it was better then I expected and didn't deserve to flop so badly. It definutely ain't Pixar quality. Some of the characters can be annoying and some of the movies plot doesn't make much sense. The whole interspecies romance was more then alittle creepy. Still I probably liked this better then many Dreamworks animated movies. And as I said before the movie puts importance on traditional family and in a culture that is increasingly at war with the traditional family this is a welcome breath of fresh air.

+1

I have seen far worse movies than this. Although not the best movie but still not as bad a some are saying.

[Sponge-worthy]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

I applaud Mars Needs Moms for potraying traditional families as important and the best environment to raise children.

I applaud Bay's Transformers films for same

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

It's much better than some of the other stuff they've released, and I've honestly been enjoying what Disney has been putting out. The Pirates series as well. Honestly, they've gone back to making fun, adventurous movies for families. That was one of Walt's things. And all those movies did that. Eisner practically killed the studio with all the crappy DTV sequels to their movies...I'm glad, for the most part, those have stopped.

Don't you love the blind spot some have over Disney sometimes?

"everything they release these days is crap, not like the old days", sure cause back 40 years ago Disney did not release subpar movies and never silly stuff, things like The Black Hole, Herbie The Love Bug, Blackbeard's Ghost just to name a few true cinematic gems

Time seem to make people believe that it was always better "in the old days", forgetting that some of the things we look as classic today were looked upon as trash by those living it back then. Human nature I suppose?

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Don't you love the blind spot some have over Disney sometimes?

"everything they release these days is crap, not like the old days", sure cause back 40 years ago Disney did not release subpar movies and never silly stuff, things like The Black Hole, Herbie The Love Bug, Blackbeard's Ghost just to name a few true cinematic gems

Time seem to make people believe that it was always better "in the old days", forgetting that some of the things we look as classic today were looked upon as trash by those living it back then. Human nature I suppose?

Definitely haha. I mean, don't get me wrong, the output back then may have been a bit better. But Disney has made it's fair share of subpar movies since the beginning. Not everything they do is a gem. But you know what, even when it's not a gem, it still has some small sort of Disney magic.

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Don't you love the blind spot some have over Disney sometimes?

"everything they release these days is crap, not like the old days", sure cause back 40 years ago Disney did not release subpar movies and never silly stuff, things like The Black Hole, Herbie The Love Bug, Blackbeard's Ghost just to name a few true cinematic gems

Time seem to make people believe that it was always better "in the old days", forgetting that some of the things we look as classic today were looked upon as trash by those living it back then. Human nature I suppose?

All we do is perserve the gems of the old.

The Silent film era was chocked full of worthless crap because the films were so short and the market was so saturated, in fact 80% of movies were "lost". They have a few gems like Sunrise, The Cheat or Birth of a Nation for example.

[bkbluray]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

No one disagreed with that. Some marriages don't last, or shouldn't. But still, having a functional family structure is a good thing. Whether your parents are remarried, or anything like that is still better for a kids to have that. A structured family is a good thing for them.

+1 I agree. If at all possible, that would be the best environment.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Definitely haha. I mean, don't get me wrong, the output back then may have been a bit better. But Disney has made it's fair share of subpar movies since the beginning. Not everything they do is a gem. But you know what, even when it's not a gem, it still has some small sort of Disney magic.

I always say, I will pick a Disney subpar movie over Dreamworks stuff any day of the week

[Empress Em]

I just saw this yesterday and i thought it was pretty good. Me and everyone i was with really got a kick out of it. It's a shame that it did so bad.

[wallendo]

My daughter and I watched this movie. I thought it above average and my daughter found in so-so.

Some of the effects were really well done, but the dialog was predictable, the plot uneven, and the lead characters were for the most part not very likable.

This movie fails in the same way in which many recent Disney films. The story was weak, and the creators got distracted by visuals and lost track of what story there was. A very large amount of money and effort was wasted on eye candy that did not advance the plot.

Like many other recent Disney films, I think people are reading too much into the movie as far as politics. The points ofnthe movie to me are fairly generally:
1) Facism is bad.
2) Human interaction is more important than technology
3) Children who be raised by people who love them.

[X400]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

What does that have to do with Apple though? Does Apple deserve credit because Jobs' money came thanks to Apple's success (which came thanks to Jobs leadership)?

No it's thanks to Microsoft for bailing them out

and thanks to Jobs for corporate espionage / stealing other ppls tech (nokia, etc)





back on topic

saw the movie, the theatre was empty... it was just me, my date, and an old couple and their grandchild up front

i actually thought it was pretty good certainly worth a watch

[Slick Nick]

With a film title like that, I surprised it's flopped.

Wink.

[technique]

I haven't seen it but given the poor marketing it shows that Disney had no faith in this film and judging from the trailer and horrible title i can see why.

[Foggy]

The thing is, this film is going to flop harder over seas basicly because of it's name. We say Mum not Moms, that's an instant turn off for at least a UK audience.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Foggy

The thing is, this film is going to flop harder over seas basicly because of it's name. We say Mum not Moms, that's an instant turn off for at least a UK audience.

Oh, thought it was going to be for the same reasons Monsters vs. Aliens flopped overseas, namely, Euro audiences aren't as iconically into sci-fi parodies...

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Foggy

The thing is, this film is going to flop harder over seas basicly because of it's name. We say Mum not Moms, that's an instant turn off for at least a UK audience.

I wonder if that's why Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot did so poorly.

[Jezza]

Originally Posted by Foggy

The thing is, this film is going to flop harder over seas basicly because of it's name. We say Mum not Moms, that's an instant turn off for at least a UK audience.

That's very much what I was thinking and when the UK is one of Disney major markets, it doesn't look good.

I still can't work out why anyone thought 'Mars Needs Moms' sounded like a good title and I can't help but think that was the turn-off for the film, rather than the plot, because it sounds so cheap and instantly says "bad movie". If it had been something different it probably wouldn't have been as big a flop.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Jezza

I still can't work out why anyone thought 'Mars Needs Moms' sounded like a good title and I can't help but think that was the turn-off for the film, rather than the plot, because it sounds so cheap and instantly says "bad movie". If it had been something different it probably wouldn't have been as big a flop.

BECAUSE. IT. WAS. A. BOOK.

Not a particularly memorable big-expensive-picture-book at Barnes & Noble, and the movie, traditionally, bears not the slightest perceptible resemblance to the plot, design or theme of it past the title.
But, like "Polar Express", "Shrek", "Cloudy/Meatballs", "Night at the Museum", "Ant Bully", "Horton Hears a Who", "The Lorax", etc., as long as it has the same title as the book that's on the overpriced-picture-book shelf at Barnes & Noble, this immediately validates it with parents as a mushy and responsible movie to take your young ones to.

And who knows, maybe in another twenty years, some animation-studio executive will actually READ it past the marketable sounding title.