Conan The Barbarian - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

FrankV · 07-08-2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Fox are known to only print the audio and subtitle selections known for the country/region it is issued in despite there often being more on the actual disc so cover specs are usually unreliable.

Correct. The cover of the Dutch release only says an English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and French DTS 5.1 audio track is available and Dutch, English HoH and French subtitles.

The Limey · 07-08-2011, 10:39 PM

I can confirm that by choosing French as your player Disc Menu Language, you will get the uncut version of Conan The Barbarian running at 2 hours 10 minutes and 31 seconds via the UK disc. This gives you an extra 21 seconds on the cut BBFC version from the English Player Menu.
Going in on the French Menu defaults straight away to DTS-HD Master 5.1 audio in English, without French subs, and is uncut.
Thank you very much, Fox

Sky_Captain · 07-08-2011, 10:45 PM

Nice one.

Douglas R · 07-08-2011, 10:46 PM

I am...... surprised. And await the inevitable recall when the BBFC find out.

supersonic395 · 07-09-2011, 12:02 AM

The Limey is correct.

I have just confirmed this a few minutes ago.

Merci Fox

chip75 · 07-09-2011, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Limey

I can confirm that by choosing French as your player Disc Menu Language, you will get the uncut version of Conan The Barbarian running at 2 hours 10 minutes and 31 seconds via the UK disc. This gives you an extra 21 seconds on the cut BBFC version from the English Player Menu.

Out of curiosity have you checked to see if the cut footage is there? The French version doesn't have different titles or longer credits?

The Limey · 07-09-2011, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Out of curiosity have you checked to see if the cut footage is there? The French version doesn't have different titles or longer credits?

The French Language Menu version is actually completely in English with identical titles and credits to that available on English Language Menu. I have not yet done a scene by scene check but in all honesty it is probably unnecessary. You definitely have an extra 21 seconds which is confirmed by both your player and the run time on the Scene Option.

agent999 · 07-09-2011, 09:21 AM

Excellent! Glad mine's been sent out, I await the inevitable recall when the BBFC find out.

agent999 · 07-09-2011, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

Out of curiosity have you checked to see if the cut footage is there? The French version doesn't have different titles or longer credits?

Mine just arrived. I've checked and can confirm the horse falls are there, it branches out at the 1:49:40 mark when using the French/Dutch menu when compared to playing from the UK menu. Praise Crom!

chip75 · 07-09-2011, 12:59 PM

Thanks guys. Praise Crom indeed! What's the PQ like?

stepstone · 07-09-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Thanks guys. Praise Crom indeed! What's the PQ like?

I'm no expert, but it's the best I've seen it. I owned it on VHS, Laserdisc, 3 times on Dvd and saw it on HDTV, and it's never looked better.
The HD Master Audio blew me away.

duggie walker · 07-10-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by agent999

Mine just arrived. I've checked and can confirm the horse falls are there, it branches out at the 1:49:40 mark when using the French/Dutch menu when compared to playing from the UK menu. Praise Crom!

Yeah, congratulations. You get to see horses being injured.

I'm actually in favour of this form (and only this form) of censorship. There's no need to injure animals during the making of an entertainment and if film-makers are intent on ignoring the Animal Humane guidelines (which should be a matter of law) then they should at least know that the effort they've expended has been futile.

HotRats · 07-10-2011, 01:27 PM

These horses have long since made their contribution to the dog food industry and films are no longer made with such cruel techniques. Censoring old films by the standards of what is currently deemed socially acceptable is idiotic, especially in a world where the uncut version is a mouse click away. Still, it provides work for the BBFC, even if they do make prats of themsleves such as cutting CGI horse falls from Red Cliff but I don't want old westerns censored especially when it comes to classics like Duck, You Sucker.

duggie walker · 07-10-2011, 02:46 PM

I get what you're saying, and I don't want to be a hypocrite about it. I do have movies in my collection that have instances of animal cruelty in them, and I'll put up with those moments if I have to. But I don't like it, and I just automatically react with revulsion at the "hurrah"-style comments in this thread. I know it wasn't meant that way but we are effectively cheering the right to watch abuse of living creatures.

Cruelty to animals has massively decreased thanks to the AHA monitoring scheme but we need to remain vigilant. There are still many mainstream films that do not elect to be monitored (it is voluntary) or that sport fake acknowledgements; and many films made in foreign countries that aren't covered by any such agreements.

I despise the BBFC as much as the next man but at least I can see a clear purpose in these cuts - ie they're excising instances of actual harm being caused - rather than the cuts that are made on the dangerously spurious basis that content will cause psychological harm.

Sky_Captain · 07-10-2011, 03:01 PM

Get off your high horse.

Jeff B · 07-10-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duggie walker

I know it wasn't meant that way but we are effectively cheering the right to watch abuse of living creatures.

No, we're cheering the fact that we can see those scenes as they were originally filmed.

demiscy · 07-10-2011, 05:39 PM

Maybe you think that every time we watch the scene.. the pain comes back to the horse

chip75 · 07-10-2011, 05:56 PM

I don't want to see any form of animal cruelty on film and the barbaric treatment of horses throughout films history, I'm also oppossed to botched editing jobs to work around said cruelty. It was more of a 'Hurrah!' against botched editing than the former....

and 99.9% of UK Blu-ray buyers won't even access the footage. I'm amazed that it's available on the UK disc.

duggie walker · 07-10-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff B

No, we're cheering the fact that we can see those scenes as they were originally filmed.

Which involved the injury of horses.

Me, I'm hoping we get an extended version of THE TWILIGHT ZONE where we can see Vic Morrow and those kids get whittled to shit by flying rotor blades.

Jeff B · 07-10-2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duggie walker

Which involved the injury of horses.

That's not what people are cheering. The film is a product of its time, and I want to see it without cuts.

07-08-2011, 10:39 PM	#62
The Limey Active Member Member since:Jan 2011	I can confirm that by choosing French as your player Disc Menu Language, you will get the uncut version of Conan The Barbarian running at 2 hours 10 minutes and 31 seconds via the UK disc. This gives you an extra 21 seconds on the cut BBFC version from the English Player Menu. Going in on the French Menu defaults straight away to DTS-HD Master 5.1 audio in English, without French subs, and is uncut. Thank you very much, Fox

07-08-2011, 10:45 PM	#63
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Nice one.

07-08-2011, 10:46 PM	#64
Douglas R Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:London, UK Blu-ray collection:197	I am...... surprised. And await the inevitable recall when the BBFC find out.

07-09-2011, 12:02 AM	#65
supersonic395 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2010 Blu-ray collection:36	The Limey is correct. I have just confirmed this a few minutes ago. Merci Fox

07-09-2011, 09:21 AM	#68
agent999 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:UK	Excellent! Glad mine's been sent out, I await the inevitable recall when the BBFC find out.

07-09-2011, 12:59 PM	#70
chip75 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Wales 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:3099 DVD collection:1782 iTunes collection:230 Trading Score:9	Thanks guys. Praise Crom indeed! What's the PQ like?

07-10-2011, 01:27 PM	#73
HotRats Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009	These horses have long since made their contribution to the dog food industry and films are no longer made with such cruel techniques. Censoring old films by the standards of what is currently deemed socially acceptable is idiotic, especially in a world where the uncut version is a mouse click away. Still, it provides work for the BBFC, even if they do make prats of themsleves such as cutting CGI horse falls from Red Cliff but I don't want old westerns censored especially when it comes to classics like Duck, You Sucker.

07-10-2011, 02:46 PM	#74
duggie walker Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2011 Location:London, UK	I get what you're saying, and I don't want to be a hypocrite about it. I do have movies in my collection that have instances of animal cruelty in them, and I'll put up with those moments if I have to. But I don't like it, and I just automatically react with revulsion at the "hurrah"-style comments in this thread. I know it wasn't meant that way but we are effectively cheering the right to watch abuse of living creatures. Cruelty to animals has massively decreased thanks to the AHA monitoring scheme but we need to remain vigilant. There are still many mainstream films that do not elect to be monitored (it is voluntary) or that sport fake acknowledgements; and many films made in foreign countries that aren't covered by any such agreements. I despise the BBFC as much as the next man but at least I can see a clear purpose in these cuts - ie they're excising instances of actual harm being caused - rather than the cuts that are made on the dangerously spurious basis that content will cause psychological harm.

07-10-2011, 03:01 PM	#75
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Get off your high horse.

07-10-2011, 05:39 PM	#77
demiscy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Nicosia, CY (EU) Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:31	Maybe you think that every time we watch the scene.. the pain comes back to the horse

07-10-2011, 05:56 PM	#78
chip75 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Wales 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:3099 DVD collection:1782 iTunes collection:230 Trading Score:9	I don't want to see any form of animal cruelty on film and the barbaric treatment of horses throughout films history, I'm also oppossed to botched editing jobs to work around said cruelty. It was more of a 'Hurrah!' against botched editing than the former.... and 99.9% of UK Blu-ray buyers won't even access the footage. I'm amazed that it's available on the UK disc.

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