The Whip and the Body (1963)

[howardtaft]

That changed this morning! Its now up.
My only concern would be that a negative will show up in the not too distant future and cause a desire for a triple dip.

Originally Posted by Jobla

Up for preorder on Amazon.UK. Surprisingly, i don't see it being offered at Diabolik.

[gobad2003]

I've got mine on pre-order through Orbit

[SMOOT]

Originally Posted by howardtaft

That changed this morning! Its now up.
My only concern would be that a negative will show up in the not too distant future and cause a desire for a triple dip.

What is 88 Films source?
The preview looks better than anything I have seen.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by SMOOT

What is 88 Films source?
The preview looks better than anything I have seen.

This is what 88 says:

New 4K Scan and 2K Restoration from archive print materials

[formula_nebula]

Originally Posted by gobad2003

I've got mine on pre-order through Orbit

Same

[SMOOT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

This is what 88 says:

Thanks
I wish companies would be more specific. That description is wide open to interpretation (and something of a dodge)

[SMOOT]

But what I'm seeing looks good.

[formula_nebula]

Got my shipping notification this morning from Orbitdvd

[losingsoul]

This new scan looks fantastic.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by losingsoul

This new scan looks fantastic.

Are there any stills or clips of this available online?

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Are there any stills or clips of this available online?

The Whip and the Body - 88 Films Restoration (Clip) - YouTube

[RFK]

Pre-ordered from Diabolik so it shouldn't be long before mine arrives.
The Bluray is region B locked for anyone interested.

[formula_nebula]

Originally Posted by losingsoul

This new scan looks fantastic.

Indeed it does. The picture is night and day from my Kino release.

[Chouan]

Has anybody actually received their copy, and if so, could they comment on the quality of the scan used?

So far, I only found a user review on amazon.co.uk, and it's not good...

"This is a wonderful film from my favourite director, and I was looking forward to see how 88 Films, a company that clearly loves these movies as much as we do, would handle it. I was especially happy to hear that the company had gone to great expense ordering a new remaster. Of course, this made my ultimate disappointment all the more acute. Firstly, this remaster uses a French print which appears a little soft. Add to that the fact the image displays horrendous grain for much of the runtime to the point where some scenes look like they're taking place in a dust storm. The image improves at around the 55 minute mark, but by then it's too late. If you own the German e-m-s dvd release of this movie, stick with it. I certainly will, as it remains the best version available. I doubt I'll watch the 88 release ever again"

Here's hoping the review is just plain wrong, but it looks like the reviewer knows what he's talking about...

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by Chouan

Has anybody actually received their copy, and if so, could they comment on the quality of the scan used?

So far, I only found a user review on amazon.co.uk, and it's not good...

"This is a wonderful film from my favourite director, and I was looking forward to see how 88 Films, a company that clearly loves these movies as much as we do, would handle it. I was especially happy to hear that the company had gone to great expense ordering a new remaster. Of course, this made my ultimate disappointment all the more acute. Firstly, this remaster uses a French print which appears a little soft. Add to that the fact the image displays horrendous grain for much of the runtime to the point where some scenes look like they're taking place in a dust storm. The image improves at around the 55 minute mark, but by then it's too late. If you own the German e-m-s dvd release of this movie, stick with it. I certainly will, as it remains the best version available. I doubt I'll watch the 88 release ever again"

Here's hoping the review is just plain wrong, but it looks like the reviewer knows what he's talking about...

Yeah, the fact they specifically refer to the EMS DVD as being better is not a good sign. We'll hope it's a guy that had noise reduction turned on on his TV so he got a weirdo grain field or something. In the meantime I just ordered a copy from Diabolik and should get it in a week or so if no one else posts screenshots before then.

[oddbox83]

Looks lovely to me.

Yes, it's very grainy, but it's colourful, rich and detailed. It's certainly nothing like what I'd describe as soft. More importantly, while it remains a film that takes place in the dark a lot, you can actually see what's going on unlike the crushed and blue-washed older release.

It helps the packaging prepares you in what to expect - it says "4K scan of archive print materials". So it's clearly not OCN levels of contrast range, but it's a good handling of what they have to work with.

[cakefactory]

Is it like, an Arrow City of the Living Dead situation? Or better than that?

[oddbox83]

No, it's not Arrow grain.

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

No, it's not Arrow grain.

Thanks. The other big question would be: are the scenes on the beach in daylight like the EMS DVD? Or day for night like the Kino?? :P

[oddbox83]

My experience of the EMS DVD is limited to caps - I want to say it's somewhere between the two through sheer gut feeling. The dusk-set scenes now seem warmer with more purples and oranges rather than all day for night despite a setting sun in the background.

So it's still rather dark in places, but absolutely not crushed and blanket-tinted like the old Blu. The movie now starts at daytime and progresses through dusk into night, mirroring the story descending into darkness. Does that sound correct for the film based on the EMS DVD? You absolutely get the full effect of Bava's lighting, especially the stylistic shots when Lee moves between different gels towards camera.