The first book is the only one I read (I stopped after that to avoid more spoilers for myself). I won't say who she is, but Jon's mother isn't Lyanna. Unless they change it in the show. Plus I don't think the Starks are into incest. Ned would have to had shacked up with his sister...
Ned said her name was Wylla, but Ned made a "promise" to Lyanna on her death bed, the content of which is unknown. I'm sure he was lying to Robert.
Ned said her name was Wylla, but Ned made a "promise" to Lyanna on her death bed, the content of which is unknown. I'm sure he was lying to Robert.
I never thought of that. He could have been lying. I didn't go to the link, I don't want to know for sure. Since Ned has that "boy scout" quality, I just assumed it was Wylla...
The first book is the only one I read (I stopped after that to avoid more spoilers for myself). I won't say who she is, but Jon's mother isn't Lyanna. Unless they change it in the show. Plus I don't think the Starks are into incest. Ned would have to had shacked up with his sister...
Again only speculation:
Jon isn't the bastard of Ned, he is his nephew. Ned only said Jon was his bastard to keep him protected from being killed. Look at what happened when there were possibilities that Robert had bastard(s) they sent armed men to kill all the children so that Joffrey didn't have competition.
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Not if Rhaegar and Lyanna were married, which I believe they were. Targaryans have a long history of polygamy.
The most popular theory is that he's the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. Would be pretty awesome if that's what ends up happening.
I love the version in this ep way more than the version by The Nationals. The National's rendition is much more grim and fitting for the end of the Red Wedding, but this one I can listen to over and over again (and am doing so).
Anyways, being a show watcher only, I never understood the importance of the Rains of Castamere song. But after reading about the origin on the wiki today it makes the song that much more intense. Now I know why Catelyn was getting freaked out when she heard the song during the Red Wedding. I didn't know that the Lannisters planned the whole thing until Roose uttered the words. But then there was the nod through the song that showed that the Lannisters were there in spirit. Pretty crazy stuff.
And now every time I hear the song I'll know shit is gonna hit the fan.
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Originally Posted by JeffTheMovieGuy
That was actually Sigur Ros in the episode
Also Jon Snow's mother is Ned Stark's sister Lyanna, his father is Rhaegar Targaryen, he is Grandson of the Mad King, Nephew to Daenerys
Which hasn't been printed into the books but its a good theory.
Lyanna died in a bed full of blood with her last words being: "Promise me, Ned."
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As you said, this is just a good theory, but it is not fact (yet).
If true, this means, of course, that Jon Snow is Jon Targaryen and is actually highborn and not a bastard. Thus, if this theory becomes widely accepted as fact, then he has the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.
TLK
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He would still be a bastard under this theory, Lyanna and Rhaegar were not married. So he would simply be the bastard of Rhaegar instead of Ned.
OMG!
WTF???
SPOILER TAGS!!!!
Thanks a freaking lot... DAMN IT... I'm still reading the damned books.
None of what we were talking about is spoilers it happened before this whole gorey story.
The last I read is what Arya was told, that Ned had an affair with a woman from the south, so YES! anything that contradicts what is stated in the book IS A SPOILER...
And this is for discussion about Episodes that have aired!
The last I read is what Arya was told, that Ned had an affair with a woman from the south, so YES! anything that contradicts what is stated in the book IS A SPOILER...
And this is for discussion about Episodes that have aired!
fair enough I was only adding onto a previous discussion.
OMG!
WTF???
SPOILER TAGS!!!!
Thanks a freaking lot... DAMN IT... I'm still reading the damned books.
The vast majority of that theory's points are from what you have already seen in the show (and/or the equivalent books). It is all squished together in my mind but most of it comes from the first book (which I believe was all referenced in the first season).
The first book is the only one I read (I stopped after that to avoid more spoilers for myself). I won't say who she is, but Jon's mother isn't Lyanna. Unless they change it in the show. Plus I don't think the Starks are into incest. Ned would have to had shacked up with his sister...
I will never understand this logic. You get much more from reading than you would an adaptation.
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Originally Posted by jokerzwild
The vast majority of that theory's points are from what you have already seen in the show (and/or the equivalent books). It is all squished together in my mind but most of it comes from the first book (which I believe was all referenced in the first season).
Exactly, it's all speculation on what's already been put in front of us from most of the first book/the entire show. It's not really spoilers when it isn't even fact.
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Where was Emilia in the last episode? That's who I want to watch only.
She won't be in every episode or else her storyline would move too far.
So who do you guys think slipped Joffery the poison and by what means. Personally I think it was Lady Tyrell (Olenna); that look she gave to him when he drank from the goblet was a giveaway. Although I have my theory about that pie....
I feel sorry for Tyrion, hard to explain himself at this moment. Also, since I haven't read the books, I'm going to assume Tommen will preside in the throne...
So who do you guys think slipped Joffery the poison and by what means. Personally I think it was Lady Tyrell (Olenna); that look she gave to him when he drank from the goblet was a giveaway. Although I have my theory about that pie....
I feel sorry for Tyrion, hard to explain himself at this moment. Also, since I haven't read the books, I'm going to assume Tommen will preside in the throne...
The last I read is what Arya was told, that Ned had an affair with a woman from the south, so YES! anything that contradicts what is stated in the book IS A SPOILER...
And this is for discussion about Episodes that have aired!
Speculation, WHICH IS NOT CANON, is not spoiler. They're talking about a theory people have had since the first book came out. That is all it is...A THEORY. People stating their theories or predictions is not a spoiler unless they give info that's ahead of the show.
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