Batman: The Killing Joke (2016)

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by BluRoo98

I agree Assault on Arkham was great, but if you haven't seen them, Son of Batman and Batman vs Robin were also amazing.

no they arent

[MTRodaba2468]

Add me to the list of people that would love to see Mark Hamill do the voice work, especially if he's on record saying that this is his favorite Joker story and that he would love to do it.

While I don't look at any one version of the character as definitive (and love plenty of the different interpretations of them), Hamill's voice is usually the first thing that comes to mind for me when I think of The Joker.

[BluRoo98]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

no they arent

I'll admit it might be because I just found out I'm having a son and I like the Batman has a son arc. I still enjoyed them.

[MD-Blu]

I know that this movie isn't being released till next year, but when do they do the voice overs? If it's coming up soon, we should hear who's doing Batman, Joker and etc.

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by MD-Blu

I know that this movie isn't being released till next year, but when do they do the voice overs? If it's coming up soon, we should hear who's doing Batman, Joker and etc.

Actually the voice work could already be in the can, it's the animation that holds things up.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by BluRoo98

I agree Assault on Arkham was great, but if you haven't seen them, Son of Batman and Batman vs Robin were also amazing.

I enjoyed Arkham and Batman vs. Robin, but wasn't a fan of Son of Batman. Most of their new 52 stuff has been pretty disappointing. I'm glad they are going back to adapting classic stories.

[DJMcNiff]

Originally Posted by MD-Blu

I know that this movie isn't being released till next year, but when do they do the voice overs? If it's coming up soon, we should hear who's doing Batman, Joker and etc.

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

Actually the voice work could already be in the can, it's the animation that holds things up.

It has already been confirmed (via the sneak peek on Justice League: Gods and Monsters) that Batman: Bad Blood will be the first of three 2016 films; meaning that, Batman: The Killing Joke will be the second or third of the 3 2016 films.

[Chaz05]

Bruce Timm said that The Killing Joke would be premiered at next year's Comic-Con, so probably a July/August release.

[MD-Blu]

Fans who wants Mark to return to voice the Joker one last time will get there wish IF they ask him.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman/news/?a=123022

[DisneyBlu]

I'm still (impatiently) waiting for an animated adaptation of The Long Halloween.

Come on, WB.

More on topic, they have to get Mark Hamill for The Killing Joke. If Hamill isn't the Joker, this movie will be a lesser version than what it could be.

[GC Riot]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

I'm still (impatiently) waiting for an animated adaptation of The Long Halloween.

Come on, WB.

More on topic, they have to get Mark Hamill for The Killing Joke. If Hamill isn't the Joker, this movie will be a lesser version than what it could be.

Granted, Hamill really is the best voiceover for the Joker I've heard so far, but there's nothing saying that there's no one who can do an even more fitting interpretation.

I'm crossing my fingers for Hamill, but at the same time I think they'll do just fine if they don't get him.

[sjconstable]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

Granted, Hamill really is the best voiceover for the Joker I've heard so far, but there's nothing saying that there's no one who can do an even more fitting interpretation.

I'm crossing my fingers for Hamill, but at the same time I think they'll do just fine if they don't get him.

Troy Baker would be just as good.

[blurayfriend]

I know nobody will agree with me on this, but I actually hope they DON'T bring back Hamill and Conroy for this. The subject matter is totally wrong for their voices, and it would just feel kind of creepy- having the definitive voices from our childhood version of Batman reprised in such an overly dark story. I don't want to think of it in any way connected with the DCAU, I want to consider it as it's own out-of-continuity kind of one-off the the way the book should have been. You need to completely divorce it from the animated series for it to work or it would feel "off", like anti-nostalgia if that makes sense. I think they should totally go with outside the box choices, like when they were rumored to be doing this about five years ago they approached Ed Harris for Batman, which is totally a good fit for the grim story precisely because he never has been Batman and is a serious dramatic actor. The desperate, nihilistic quality of his voice would fit it well, in that Kevin Conroy would just remind you of HIS Batman and take you out of the world the decidedly mature story presents.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by blurayfriend

I know nobody will agree with me on this, but I actually hope they DON'T bring back Hamill and Conroy for this. The subject matter is totally wrong for their voices, and it would just feel kind of creepy- having the definitive voices from our childhood version of Batman reprised in such an overly dark story. I don't want to think of it in any way connected with the DCAU, I want to consider it as it's own out-of-continuity kind of one-off the the way the book should have been. You need to completely divorce it from the animated series for it to work or it would feel "off", like anti-nostalgia if that makes sense. I think they should totally go with outside the box choices, like when they were rumored to be doing this about five years ago they approached Ed Harris for Batman, which is totally a good fit for the grim story precisely because he never has been Batman and is a serious dramatic actor. The desperate, nihilistic quality of his voice would fit it well, in that Kevin Conroy would just remind you of HIS Batman and take you out of the world the decidedly mature story presents.

Disagree the Arkham Trilogy of games were just as dark if not darker, and their voices were still perfect.

[DisneyBlu]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Disagree the Arkham Trilogy of games were just as dark if not darker, and their voices were still perfect.

Exactly. The Arkham games are dark, much more mature than Batman: The Animated Series ever was, and Conroy and Hamill never felt off or out of place in those games.

Hamill said he's always wanted to do TKJ, many fans want him... seems like a no-brainer.

[blurayfriend]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Exactly. The Arkham games are dark, much more mature than Batman: The Animated Series ever was, and Conroy and Hamill never felt off or out of place in those games.

Hamill said he's always wanted to do TKJ, many fans want him... seems like a no-brainer.

But the Arkham games were not as mature as this, with all the creepy sexual stuff. Conroy and Hamill fit the Arkham games like a glove because it felt like a natural extension of everyone's collective memory of the Batman mythos- which for most people, the animated series was a large part of. I'm not saying it was in the same world by any stretch, but the games relied on the audience assuming there was some kind of past adventures for the characters that resembled something like either the comics or the show, and having those two reprise their voices for it was an incredible auditory shorthand to get you in that comfort zone. Having it be in a completely different medium- a game- with slightly more adult themes made it seem so cool, like it was a natural progression of your enjoyment of their past voice work without feeling like a sequel or a callback.

Whereas in this, TKJ takes place in nothing remotely resembling the world of the animated series, yet it's an animated film so having Hamill and Conroy would just feel extremely "wrong" to me, like perverting the purity of the animated series. I don't think the Arkham games ever went too far, and again were a totally different visual representation. It's just my opinion, but it feels akin to doing an X-rated sequel to a Disney classic or whatever but retaining the same voice actors, making it neither fish nor fowl. There's a reason they went with Peter Weller and not Conroy for DKR, him reminding you of BTAS would be totally out of place for that completely unrelated seminal '80s work. It would not be able to stand on it's own because the story itself is so far removed from any innocence the cartoon represents in our hearts, but with them doing the voices you can't help but think of that and I don't think that is the juxtaposition they want. Just IMO of course.

[sjconstable]

Originally Posted by blurayfriend

There's a reason they went with Peter Weller and not Conroy for DKR, him reminding you of BTAS would be totally out of place for that completely unrelated seminal '80s work.

Or because Batman's an old man in that film so Conroy's voice wouldn't have fit, I don't think when reading TDKR people would tend to imagine Conroy personally, I sure didn't.

[GC Riot]

Originally Posted by sjconstable

Troy Baker would be just as good.

My problem with Troy Baker though is that he's basically just channeling Hamill, it's not personal, it's just a very good imitation. Hamill made The Joker his own thing, and I think that's the key going forward after Hamill has left the role forever - give The Joker a personality of your own, don't just mimic what came before.
Say what you will about John DiMaggio in Under the Red Hood, but at least he did something unique with the character.

[DisneyBlu]

The Arkham games had murder, people getting tortured, blown up, and shot, and adult language... Conroy and Hamill have already covered the kind of material that would be in an adaptation of The Killing Joke. Those games, especially Arkham Knight which is "M," are on the same level as an adaptation of this story would be. These are the same games that had Batman engaging in conversation with Catwoman who was making sexual innuendos or Joker making some crude sexual references.

And in Arkham Knight,

[Show spoiler]it covers bits from The Killing Joke... including Joker shooting Barbara in her home.

So they've already covered more "adult" topics. An animated film adaptation wouldn't be anything worse than what we've seen in those games.

[sjconstable]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

My problem with Troy Baker though is that he's basically just channeling Hamill, it's not personal, it's just a very good imitation. Hamill made The Joker his own thing, and I think that's the key going forward after Hamill has left the role forever - give The Joker a personality of your own, don't just mimic what came before.
Say what you will about John DiMaggio in Under the Red Hood, but at least he did something unique with the character.

My point was if Hamill can't do it, Baker would be just as good because he sounds the same. DiMaggio made the Joker sound like Bender, because he sounds like Bender whatever character he plays.