Nightmare Alley 4K UHD (2021)

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

The movie wasn’t shot in B&W so I imagine it’s one of those faux conversions that doesn’t really work like Parasite, Fury Road, etc.

It’s worth noting that at the Q&A I attended, Del Toro stated that while the film was not planned for black and white, there was a several month pause in production due to the pandemic. It was at this point that GDT experimented with seeing what they already shot in black and white, and found that the photography which was shot with a traditional 3 point Hollywood lighting style, was well suited to monochrome. When production resumed, they actually shot the rest of the film with a BW version in mind.

And I would say the film works better in BW than color.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

It’s worth noting that at the Q&A I attended, Del Toro stated that while the film was not planned for black and white, there was a several month pause in production due to the pandemic. It was at this point that GDT experimented with seeing what they already shot in black and white, and found that the photography which was shot with a traditional 3 point Hollywood lighting style, was well suited to monochrome. When production resumed, they actually shot the rest of the film with a BW version in mind.

And I would say the film works better in BW than color.

It is still not the same as something that was actually shot for B&W like, I dunno, the 1947 film.

I’m sure it looks fine in B&W, but Dan Lausten’s cinematography and the gorgeous art direction and production design were clearly supposed to give this film a more extravagant look that stands out as different compared to the original film.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

It is still not the same as something that was actually shot for B&W like, I dunno, the 1947 film.

I’m sure it looks fine in B&W, but Dan Lausten’s cinematography and the gorgeous art direction and production design were clearly supposed to give this film a more extravagant look that stands out as different compared to the original film.

I've seen all of the B&W films released in 2021 - this B&W version blows C'mon C'mon and The Tragedy of Macbeth out of the water, easily!

[Dr. Seymour Love]

This hits hbomax and Hulu Feb 1.

https://collider.com/nightmare-alley...-date-hbo-max/

[CelestialAgent]

I watched the film in colour and the way many shots are lit I feel it would look amazing in black and white.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

I watched the film in colour and the way many shots are lit I feel it would look amazing in black and white.

They do. Believe me, they do.

[critterdvd]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Lack of Amazon link makes sense since their feud with Disney is still happening.

I can't believe this is still been going on for years... But it's Amazon's loss, at least for me I don't even both looking for Disney/Fox discs on there anymore, I just stick to Target or the DMC now...

[AaronWilson]

Originally Posted by critterdvd

I can't believe this is still been going on for years... But it's Amazon's loss, at least for me I don't even both looking for Disney/Fox discs on there anymore, I just stick to Target or the DMC now...

But i do not see it on Target and DMC either though.

[critterdvd]

Originally Posted by AaronWilson

But i do not see it on Target and DMC either though.

It will definitely be on Target's website soon. DMC probably won't stock it because it's rated R...

[The Debts]

Someone alert me when the B&W version gets released. Managed to catch it yesterday and loved it, easily my favorite Del Toro since Blade II.

[tehthomas]

Made the trek in the Chicago cold to see the B&W version at AMC. Wow! What a masterpiece this film is. Not sure if the standard version would change my opinion, but hopefully both versions will be made available.

[Viking61]

Best Buy Exclusive 4K SteelBook. Tentative release date March 29, 2022.

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[bookcase]

Originally Posted by Dr. Seymour Love

This hits hbomax and Hulu Feb 1.

https://collider.com/nightmare-alley...-date-hbo-max/

I missed this post, but I just noticed it when I was browsing through new titles on HBO Max today. This is awesome!

[CraigThom]

Originally Posted by Dr. Seymour Love

This hits hbomax and Hulu Feb 1.

https://collider.com/nightmare-alley...-date-hbo-max/

I was ready to watch this tonight but decided against it because it's HD and 5.1. I'll wait.

I hope the disc comes with director's commentary. I was disappointed that Shape of Water didn't. On his previous films the commentary has been great and even made me appreciate them more.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by CraigThom

I was ready to watch this tonight but decided against it because it's HD and 5.1. I'll wait.

It is still playing in theaters if you want the higher quality picture but it’s still going to be multi-channel only.

[u2popmofo]

Originally Posted by CraigThom

I was ready to watch this tonight but decided against it because it's HD and 5.1. I'll wait.

I watched it tonight on HBOMax, if anything it made me even more excited for the UHD. I was somewhat worried I'd be disappointed in this since I'm a fan of the original. It's both different and similar enough to that film to stand tall on its own feet. Looked great even in a SD online stream, can't wait to see and hear how great it is on UHD.

[andantelise]

Originally Posted by u2popmofo

I watched it tonight on HBOMax, if anything it made me even more excited for the UHD. I was somewhat worried I'd be disappointed in this since I'm a fan of the original. It's both different and similar enough to that film to stand tall on its own feet. Looked great even in a SD online stream, can't wait to see and hear how great it is on UHD.

You watched it in SD? I don't know how good that would be?

As far as the movie, I thought it was pretty darn good, too. I really didn't want to be disappointed either, like I was on Last Night in Soho. But I have to admit, I was pleasantly surprised at how good it is.

[mikevieira]

The cover is kinda meh...

[Scholer]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

I've seen all of the B&W films released in 2021 - this B&W version blows C'mon C'mon and The Tragedy of Macbeth out of the water, easily!

I think the comparison with C'mon C'mon isn’t apt since it was predominantly shot using natural light and went for a completely different aesthetic. The Tragedy of Macbeth and Nightmare Alley is a good comparison since both films are very meticulously lit and both go all in for a very abstract “detached from reality” look. In that sense I agree that it does work much better in case of the BW Nightmare Alley than Macbeth, mainly because the former remarkably still gives off a strangely organic and “lived in” feeling even under all the obvious artifice.

[havoc33]

Originally Posted by andantelise

You watched it in SD? I don't know how good that would be?

As far as the movie, I thought it was pretty darn good, too. I really didn't want to be disappointed either, like I was on Last Night in Soho. But I have to admit, I was pleasantly surprised at how good it is.

What did you think of the middle part of the movie though? I thought it started great with the carnival (giving me serious Carnivale HBO vibes) and an interesting set of characters all around, then really lost it's momentum as Stan left together with Molly. The whole Lilith and Stan plot wasn't all that exciting, and I think it would have made for a richer and far more interesting movie had they stayed with the carnival and built the main plot around those characters. Pretty great ending though, I'll admit that. And the cinematography was amazing.