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Old 02-08-2009, 10:29 PM   #61
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Whoever wrote that entry in the Urban Dictionary seems a little bit defensive of their own plebeian tastes. Obviously the author was trying to be satirical, but missed the mark by a wide margin. Satire is supposed to be both funny and true.

That said, snobbery is in the eye of the beholder. People who are intelligent tend to like thoughtful, stimulating or artful movies (or films, motion pictures, or flickers, if you like). Stupid people like simplistic, trite, pedestrian movies -- especially if they appeal to sentimentality or emotional button pushing. To a stupid person, an intelligent person's tastes seem snobbish. That's because the more creative or intelligent the film is, the more challenging and difficult it is for the dumb person to understand.

That said, I think I fall somewhere in the middle of the two types I just listed. I like a lot of movies that would be considered in the snob range by certain people, but I'm not in the Pauline Kael or Andrew Sarris league. I could never sit through a festival of Jean Luc Goddard films without fidgeting, for example.
haha you my friend are a movie snob, or is it film snob, oh i dont know i guess im not intelligent enough
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:35 PM   #62
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also, everyone who was arguing over wheather its film or movie, also a movie/film snob. This is one of the funniest threads ever, come on relax it was a funny definition from urban dictionary, why dont you go pop in a movie and ENJOY it
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:37 PM   #63
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also, everyone who was arguing over wheather its film or movie, also a movie/film snob. This is one of the funniest threads ever, come on relax it was a funny definition from urban dictionary, why dont you go pop in a movie and ENJOY it

well put!
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:40 PM   #64
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In America we have Scary Movie.

In Canada they have Film de Peur.
Actually.

Seeing as how I'm from Canada, that makes me pretty much an expert on most things Canadian.

Only in QUEBEC would they call it "Film de Peur"

The rest of Canada calls it Scary Movie.

And putting forth something like that, pretty much invalidates the rest of your list due to the fact that I think you're having trouble with the fact that in English people call them movies, but in OTHER LANGUAGES they call it something else.

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Old 02-08-2009, 10:43 PM   #65
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also, everyone who was arguing over wheather its film or movie, also a movie/film snob. This is one of the funniest threads ever, come on relax it was a funny definition from urban dictionary, why dont you go pop in a FILM and ENJOY it
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:46 PM   #66
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Actually.

Seeing as how I'm from Canada, that makes me pretty much an expert on most things Canadian.

Only in QUEBEC would they call it "Film de Peur"

The rest of Canada calls it Scary Movie.

And putting forth something like that, pretty much invalidates the rest of your list due to the fact that I think you're having trouble with the fact that in English people call them movies, but in OTHER LANGUAGES they call it something else.

Logan
You may be an expert on all things Canadian, but just because you are from Canada that doesn't make you an expert at all. There are many Americans who have no clue about how the U.S. government is run or what is even going on with the government. I'm not insulting you at all I am just saying that.

It doesn't invalidate his argument because regardless of whether Canadians call them what he refers to there are other people in other parts of the world who refer to them as what he is listed which goes back to his original argument that not everybody refers to films as movies.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:52 PM   #67
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also, everyone who was arguing over wheather its film or movie, also a movie/film snob. This is one of the funniest threads ever, come on relax it was a funny definition from urban dictionary, why dont you go pop in a movie and ENJOY it
Excellent choice of words "... pop in a movie..."
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:09 PM   #68
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howbout flicks? anyone call them flicks anymore? do i see 1 hand? 1? 2 hands? howbout 3? 3 hands?
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:37 PM   #69
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No not exactly. Film is what is shot with yes, but films are the real term and not "movies"

Movies are a relatively new term that has come about recently. The term films have been around since the beginning of film in the early 20th century.
I would hardly consider 1911 relatively new or recent, which is when the term "movie" was given birth. It's parent, "motion picture" (aka, "moving picture") is only 15 years older. The term "film" predated both by centuries but obviously had no connection with the topic at hand until the birth of photography around 1840. And even then there wasn't any real connection until photographic film actually began production in the late 19th century (not surprisingly, near the same time the "motion picture" was introduced).

Long story short, the terms "film" and "movie" have been around for just about the same span of time to describe a "motion picture" (which would be the most accurate term).

If "film" is the preferred term in the industry, then that's probably a certain bit of snobbery in it. Just as someone who writes for a living might prefer to be called an "author" instead of a "writer" (since most people can write, but few would consider themselves authors).

But at the end of the day, a cigar is just a cigar.

And for the record, I'm not a talkie snob...
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:39 PM   #70
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howbout flicks? anyone call them flicks anymore? do i see 1 hand? 1? 2 hands? howbout 3? 3 hands?
I'm leaning toward "talkie" myself. That was a pretty cool term that people somehow let die. I think we should definitely try to revive it.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:45 PM   #71
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I'm leaning toward "talkie" myself. That was a pretty cool term that people somehow let die. I think we should definitely try to revive it.
i'm with you on that
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:48 PM   #72
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I don't watch "films", I watch "movies".

Movie snob? Me? No, not at all.
I'm one of the types that watch a movie purely for entertainment.
I couldn't care less what camera was used, what the director's "vision" was, or the anything else that is far and away from the entertainment aspect of a movie.
I also don't G.A.S. what other people say about a movie.
If the movie sucks *TO ME*, then the movie sucks - *TO ME*.
If the movie is great *TO ME*, then the movie is great - *TO ME*.

As always, YMMV.
Likewise, agreed. I also watch whatever I think is interesting to me. I don't care what it's called because now we also have digital media so the term "film" won't necessarily fit either.

As far as being a snob, it's those who go out of their way to try and push their view on someone else. I don't care if anybody else have the same taste as mine. To each his own. I know what I like and what I don't and if someone else likes something different, that's fine as long as it makes them happy.
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I would hardly consider 1911 relatively new or recent, which is when the term "movie" was given birth. It's parent, "motion picture" (aka, "moving picture") is only 15 years older. The term "film" predated both by centuries but obviously had no connection with the topic at hand until the birth of photography around 1840. And even then there wasn't any real connection until photographic film actually began production in the late 19th century (not surprisingly, near the same time the "motion picture" was introduced).

Long story short, the terms "film" and "movie" have been around for just about the same span of time to describe a "motion picture" (which would be the most accurate term).

If "film" is the preferred term in the industry, then that's probably a certain bit of snobbery in it. Just as someone who writes for a living might prefer to be called an "author" instead of a "writer" (since most people can write, but few would consider themselves authors).

But at the end of the day, a cigar is just a cigar.

And for the record, I'm not a talkie snob...
Please show me where the term movie originated in 1911. Please do that.

I think you are confusing the actual term film and the actual roll of film.

You are completely off about the two terms being around the same time. That's not true at all.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:59 PM   #74
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The terms "movie" and "film" are so gauche. I prefer "cinema".

Snob? Who, ME?
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:00 AM   #75
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See the Friday the 13th thread in the bluray release section for quite a few examples of movie snobs.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:00 AM   #76
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Thank you for proving my point which I said was that "movie" is a very recent term that hasn't been around forever.
Sorry, you said they as in they in the business use film, not movie. I'm saying it's semantics, you are not. So why didn't THEY name the movie Superman the FILM?

It's already been established that movie has been used since 1911.
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Please show me where the term movie originated in 1911. Please do that.

I think you are confusing the actual term film and the actual roll of film.

You are completely off about the two terms being around the same time. That's not true at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/movie

not that it makes any difference as we've already been over lol
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:06 AM   #78
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/movie

not that it makes any difference as we've already been over lol
That doesn't answer anything in my post.
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That doesn't answer anything in my post.
you wanted proof of the origin, there it is. what more do you want?
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Sorry, you said they as in they in the business use film, not movie. I'm saying it's semantics, you are not. So why didn't THEY name the movie Superman the FILM?

It's already been established that movie has been used since 1911.
They in the business do use film not movie.

Show me where it's been established. A poster saying it has is not established. Show me factual evidence where it has been established.
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