Star Trek Into Darkness

[koontz1973]

Idea for sequel would be the Dominion. Be great to find a bad guy that was not Borg or any of the others that have been in film.

Space probe
Kahn
Klingons
Space probe
Brother and God
Klingons/federation
Klingons
Borg
Federation and cannot remember
Romulins
romulins

[mikejet]

I think they should take the second star to the elft and go straight on til morning.

[kdn1221]

As much as I like the Khan character and the Borg, neither of these would work for a sequel. Neither would the Dominion.

People are forgetting a few key points about them even though we are now in an alternate timeline. An alternate timeline doesn't mean that everything is thrown out the windows. Some events, specifically, minute details about the main characters lives could be different but the greater set of historical events would stay roughly the same.

Major milestones in history would not be drastically altered.

With this new Star Trek, the audience is now living in the early days of the Enterprise crew's career before TOS.

Khan was a product of 21st century bioengineering. He is presumably still in the Botany Bay in space somewhere. The events in "Space Seed" that TWOK followed up to have not happened yet. Kirk have not even met Khan at this point in time much less for Khan to have a grudge against him. To do Khan, this meeting must first take place. Until that happens under the new timeline, you can't have a Khan story.

The Borg first encounter humans in TNG. They are in the Delta Quadrant where Voyager was. The events in First Contact left some remnants of Borg on Earth that ran into Archer's ship in the 22nd century. When this happened they left. That's a 100 years before Kirk, Spock, and company. Assuming that those Borgs kept going, they would be too far away for the current crew to meet.

The Dominion, just like the Borg, is generally impossible to do in a movie. They exist in the Gamma Quadrant. The physical distance alone without the DS9 wormhole would make it impossible for any kind of interaction. The DS9 wormhole exist at the edge of the Federation in the 24th century which is way beyond the territories that's was covered in Kirk's time.

Klingons and Romulans or some other adversary (perhaps Orion slave traders) would be more reasonable for the sequel since they are the closest neighbors to the Federation during Kirk's time. Klingons would be an obvious choice since they were the main bad guys in TOS. It also wouldn't be a problem to run into Romulans since they're still around. However, having two back-to-back Romulan stories wouldn't be as interesting.

It would be nice to see Starfleet play a bigger role in the next movie and ship-to-ship space combat like the beginning of First Contact.

[Joe Cain]

As long as it's not about the great Klingon war to subdue the Tribbles....

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by kdn1221

As much as I like the Khan character and the Borg, neither of these would work for a sequel. Neither would the Dominion.

People are forgetting a few key points about them even though we are now in an alternate timeline. An alternate timeline doesn't mean that everything is thrown out the windows. Some events, specifically, minute details about the main characters lives could be different but the greater set of historical events would stay roughly the same.

Major milestones in history would not be drastically altered.

With this new Star Trek, the audience is now living in the early days of the Enterprise crew's career before TOS.

Khan was a product of 21st century bioengineering. He is presumably still in the Botany Bay in space somewhere. The events in "Space Seed" that TWOK followed up to have not happened yet. Kirk have not even met Khan at this point in time much less for Khan to have a grudge against him. To do Khan, this meeting must first take place. Until that happens under the new timeline, you can't have a Khan story.

The Borg first encounter humans in TNG. They are in the Delta Quadrant where Voyager was. The events in First Contact left some remnants of Borg on Earth that ran into Archer's ship in the 22nd century. When this happened they left. That's a 100 years before Kirk, Spock, and company. Assuming that those Borgs kept going, they would be too far away for the current crew to meet.

The Dominion, just like the Borg, is generally impossible to do in a movie. They exist in the Gamma Quadrant. The physical distance alone without the DS9 wormhole would make it impossible for any kind of interaction. The DS9 wormhole exist at the edge of the Federation in the 24th century which is way beyond the territories that's was covered in Kirk's time.

Klingons and Romulans or some other adversary (perhaps Orion slave traders) would be more reasonable for the sequel since they are the closest neighbors to the Federation during Kirk's time. Klingons would be an obvious choice since they were the main bad guys in TOS. It also wouldn't be a problem to run into Romulans since they're still around. However, having two back-to-back Romulan stories wouldn't be as interesting.

It would be nice to see Starfleet play a bigger role in the next movie and ship-to-ship space combat like the beginning of First Contact.

There you go. That's what I'm talking about.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

The Borg is pretty much out of the equation, unless the want the hardcore Trekkies to commit mass hara-kiri in front of the Paramount studios. Picard's crew had the first recorded Federation contact with the Borg.

i agree but there was one enterprize show where they ran into the borg,that series took place before the tos

[Beast]

Originally Posted by kdn1221

As much as I like the Khan character and the Borg, neither of these would work for a sequel. Neither would the Dominion.

People are forgetting a few key points about them even though we are now in an alternate timeline. An alternate timeline doesn't mean that everything is thrown out the windows. Some events, specifically, minute details about the main characters lives could be different but the greater set of historical events would stay roughly the same.

Major milestones in history would not be drastically altered.

With this new Star Trek, the audience is now living in the early days of the Enterprise crew's career before TOS.

Khan was a product of 21st century bioengineering. He is presumably still in the Botany Bay in space somewhere. The events in "Space Seed" that TWOK followed up to have not happened yet. Kirk have not even met Khan at this point in time much less for Khan to have a grudge against him. To do Khan, this meeting must first take place. Until that happens under the new timeline, you can't have a Khan story.

The Borg first encounter humans in TNG. They are in the Delta Quadrant where Voyager was. The events in First Contact left some remnants of Borg on Earth that ran into Archer's ship in the 22nd century. When this happened they left. That's a 100 years before Kirk, Spock, and company. Assuming that those Borgs kept going, they would be too far away for the current crew to meet.

The Dominion, just like the Borg, is generally impossible to do in a movie. They exist in the Gamma Quadrant. The physical distance alone without the DS9 wormhole would make it impossible for any kind of interaction. The DS9 wormhole exist at the edge of the Federation in the 24th century which is way beyond the territories that's was covered in Kirk's time.

Klingons and Romulans or some other adversary (perhaps Orion slave traders) would be more reasonable for the sequel since they are the closest neighbors to the Federation during Kirk's time. Klingons would be an obvious choice since they were the main bad guys in TOS. It also wouldn't be a problem to run into Romulans since they're still around. However, having two back-to-back Romulan stories wouldn't be as interesting.

It would be nice to see Starfleet play a bigger role in the next movie and ship-to-ship space combat like the beginning of First Contact.

This is a new timeline. It means new events can unfold that can cause any of that stuff to happen.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

As long as it's not about the great Klingon war to subdue the Tribbles....

Much glory was earned. Id pay to see that, at least for 10 minutes. Maybe Robot Chicken will do it.

Kirk vs Koloth or Kang or Kor is the way to go.

[kdn1221]

Originally Posted by Beast

This is a new timeline. It means new events can unfold that can cause any of that stuff to happen.

It's true that this is a new timeline and that there will be differences, specifically, in the lives of Kirk and crew but as I've stated major events will ultimately be similar. You can't have a Khan revenge story when we haven't seen what pissed him off. The Borg and the Dominion are just physically two far away to reach. The Enterprise D ran into the Borg only after Q sent them into the Delta Quadrant and didn't escape except for Q sending them back to Federation space. 23rd century technology might not be a match for the Borg even in that time.

[Verisimilitude]

Possible idea for sequel enemy...

The Gorns!! You know it makes sense

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Possible idea for sequel enemy...

The Gorns!! You know it makes sense

Ok, the Gorn would be interesting. Since they're not a really heavily utilized race.

[Monkey]

F yeah!! That lizard was strong as hell, throwing big ass boulders at Kirk

I want this:
http://www.monstersinmotion.com/cata...rek/df48lg.jpg

[LA GUY]

Bill Shatner rules....

[GORT]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

The Borg is pretty much out of the equation, unless the want the hardcore Trekkies to commit mass hara-kiri in front of the Paramount studios. Picard's crew had the first recorded Federation contact with the Borg.

The Borg are the one villian who can pop up anywere as they have technology that is far superior.

[peter008]

it's exactly what i was afraid of with this sequel now people want khan again damn !
when khan was in power it was during the eugenic war... a war that happened a long time before kirk and his crew and we saw him in the tv. show and in the movie, that's enough let move on to another bad guy.

i will never understand this desire that people have to always want to see the same bad guys in movie after movie and for hollywood to always put the same bad guys in almost every sequel that come out.

[Diablo829]

A brand new enemy would give them complete freedom to do whatever they want.

[starkent08]

why not darth vader

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by starkent08

why not darth vader

Nah, they're already using him in Night at the Museum 2.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by jasonbird

Nah, they're already using him in Night at the Museum 2.

That scene in the trailer makes me want to see it so bad.

[zweet77]

Originally Posted by Beast

In the original timeline, yes. This is a new alternate timeline.

All bets are off. Hell, I wouldn't mind Q even dropping in to say hello.

Now thats what I am talking about!!Bring it!