AGFA/Something Weird Video Discussion Thread - Page 43 - Blu-ray Forum

chase3001 · 12-01-2021, 01:06 AM

Do you mean Anton LeVay's son named Satan?

vortexx · 12-01-2021, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jared A.

I think a previously unknow person popped up claiming the rights and threatening legal woes.

I think that was one of the films Mike Vraney found. Many SWV releases were based on the idea that the copyright was abandoned or the owners could not be found. He was removing titles regularly from his catalog because he received cease and desist letters. Prior to finding the huge film stash, he only had a few titles. I don't recall if the deal with Friedman or Novak happened due to the film find.

EC comics would sometimes do Bradbury stories without permission. At some point Bradbury got in touch and instead of threatening to sue, he just said 'you forgot to pay me.' That resulted in a friendship with the publisher plus Bradbury licensing some stories to them. Unfortunately the comics code nearly killed EC (along with others). Anyway, It is possible that there wasn't an official deal previously.

slybone · 12-01-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vortexx

I think that was one of the films Mike Vraney found. Many SWV releases were based on the idea that the copyright was abandoned or the owners could not be found. He was removing titles regularly from his catalog because he received cease and desist letters. Prior to finding the huge film stash, he only had a few titles. I don't recall if the deal with Friedman or Novak happened due to the film find.

EC comics would sometimes do Bradbury stories without permission. At some point Bradbury got in touch and instead of threatening to sue, he just said 'you forgot to pay me.' That resulted in a friendship with the publisher plus Bradbury licensing some stories to them. Unfortunately the comics code nearly killed EC (along with others). Anyway, It is possible that there wasn't an official deal previously.

I think I remember on one of the old SWV DVD commentaries that Vraney talked about how he distributed Herschell Gordon Lewis’ films for years without authorization, but Vraney said it was because HGL couldn’t be located, but then years later when he did surface Vraney cut him a pretty sizable check.

Mark E. Desade · 12-01-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slybone

I think I remember on one of the old SWV DVD commentaries that Vraney talked about how he distributed Herschell Gordon Lewis’ films for years without authorization, but Vraney said it was because HGL couldn’t be located, but then years later when he did surface Vraney cut him a pretty sizable check.

Lewis didn't own the copyright to any of his films. He was filthy rich at that point from DMM. Why would any sensible person give a millionaire money not owed to them when they gain nothing in return?

Jared A. · 12-01-2021, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark E. Desade

Lewis didn't own the copyright to any of his films. He was filthy rich at that point from DMM. Why would any sensible person give a millionaire money not owed to them when they gain nothing in return?

Yeah, I think it was David Friedman he gave the check to, not HGL. Because he was selling some of his films (not the HGL ones). Friedman was so impressed he gave Vraney access to his vaults.

Mark E. Desade · 12-01-2021, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared A.

Yeah, I think it was David Friedman he gave the check to, not HGL. Because he was selling some of his films (not the HGL ones). Friedman was so impressed he gave Vraney access to his vaults.

That sounds familiar and much more logical.

vortexx · 12-01-2021, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark E. Desade

Lewis didn't own the copyright to any of his films. He was filthy rich at that point from DMM. Why would any sensible person give a millionaire money not owed to them when they gain nothing in return?

Lewis sold the rights to the films he owned at some point in the 70s. He didn't think they were of any value since home video didn't exist. He either traded the films for a car or sold them for money that he used to buy a car.

spatafore · 12-01-2021, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Dawn

all titles will be reprinted but Scary Movie goes OOP?

Worship.my.wreck · 12-01-2021, 07:23 PM

Man I've been sleeping on AGFA. I didn't even notice Satanis was OOP. Now i'm sad I missed out

Jobla · 12-01-2021, 11:55 PM

I'm pretty sure it was THE EROTIC ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD that first brought Vraney to the attention of David F. Friedman. "Somebody" was selling unauthorized copies of ROBIN HOOD via mail order, and that person was Vraney before he went "legit" thanks to Friedman. Friedman was a producer of ROBIN HOOD.

Mike_C · 12-02-2021, 03:21 AM

As a follow up to the twitter comment from AGFA regarding the reissue of out of print titles, they also stated that there's a good chance that they would be reissued with slipcovers. For those who care about such things...

xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx · 12-02-2021, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike_C

As a follow up to the twitter comment from AGFA regarding the reissue of out of print titles, they also stated that there's a good chance that they would be reissued with slipcovers. For those who care about such things...

Hope they're available separately but I'm not holding my breath

Rzzzz · 12-02-2021, 03:53 AM

How did they come to acquire this title?

It is by far my favorite AGFA release. I was really hoping we would get more 50's Ed Wood from them. Even the lesser films like Jail Bait (1954)...

xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx · 12-02-2021, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rzzzz

How did they come to acquire this title?

It is by far my favorite AGFA release. I was really hoping we would get more 50's Ed Wood from them. Even the lesser films like Jail Bait (1954)...

Jail Bait and others are supposed to be coming from The Film Detective.

Rzzzz · 12-02-2021, 04:22 AM

Nice!

fatboyslim142 · 12-02-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

Jail Bait and others are supposed to be coming from The Film Detective.

Who has the rights to his porn films? Would love to see a fancy boxset from Vinegar Syndrome containing the following XXX films as well as his XXX shorts/loops:

'Necromania': A Tale of Weird Love!
The Undergraduate - He wote this
The Only House in Town
The Young Marrieds
Panty Girls

I'd hope that the set would a;so include any njon-XXX versions of the XXX stuff lizsted above.

I assume VS still own the rights to ALL the Stephen C. Apostolof films? As I'd love to see the rest of them get BD releases. Possibly as 2-3 boxsets.

fatboyslim142 · 12-02-2021, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

WHY NOT SATANIS

I wonder if the re-released verson of Bat P***y will include the longer version that SWV found aa an extra.

Sleazeaddict · 12-02-2021, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

Hope they're available separately but I'm not holding my breath

Same, hope vs will sell slips only..

jshaide · 12-02-2021, 03:36 PM

Are there any expected AGFA titles being announced tomorrow?

fatboyslim142 · 12-02-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

Jail Bait and others are supposed to be coming from The Film Detective.

Does anyone know if this includes films he wrote as well or just the directed ones?

12-01-2021, 01:06 AM	#841
chase3001 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Edmonton, Alberta 4K collection:718 Blu-ray collection:5672 DVD collection:516 Trading Score:3	Do you mean Anton LeVay's son named Satan?

12-01-2021, 07:23 PM	#849
Worship.my.wreck Blu-ray Champion Member since:Apr 2016 4K collection:370 Blu-ray collection:2024 DVD collection:121	Man I've been sleeping on AGFA. I didn't even notice Satanis was OOP. Now i'm sad I missed out

12-01-2021, 11:55 PM	#850
Jobla Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Boulevard of Broken Dreams	I'm pretty sure it was THE EROTIC ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD that first brought Vraney to the attention of David F. Friedman. "Somebody" was selling unauthorized copies of ROBIN HOOD via mail order, and that person was Vraney before he went "legit" thanks to Friedman. Friedman was a producer of ROBIN HOOD.

12-02-2021, 03:21 AM	#851
Mike_C Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Houston, TX 4K collection:291 Blu-ray collection:6308 DVD collection:495	As a follow up to the twitter comment from AGFA regarding the reissue of out of print titles, they also stated that there's a good chance that they would be reissued with slipcovers. For those who care about such things...

12-02-2021, 03:53 AM	#853
Rzzzz Banned Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Behind enemy lines 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:1430 DVD collection:545 Blu-ray reviews: 6	How did they come to acquire this title? It is by far my favorite AGFA release. I was really hoping we would get more 50's Ed Wood from them. Even the lesser films like Jail Bait (1954)...

12-02-2021, 04:22 AM	#855
Rzzzz Banned Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Behind enemy lines 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:1430 DVD collection:545 Blu-ray reviews: 6	Nice!

12-02-2021, 03:36 PM	#859
jshaide Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:East Coast! 4K collection:220 Blu-ray collection:5931 DVD collection:669 Trading Score:14	Are there any expected AGFA titles being announced tomorrow?

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