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Old 02-20-2013, 06:33 PM   #9341
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if not, it should. i am obviously not a "U" fan, but i think that any school/university that takes the initiative should be given credit for their own actions against those that do harm to the school/university.

i actually applaud UM for being proactive and self-imposing a bowl ban and holding themselves out of contention for a conference championship appearance as well as holding out those student-athletes who were involved (if i read that correctly).
Trying to impose self sanctions to avoid bigger sanctions doesn't get any applause from me. That said Miami's situation was handled very poorly.
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ESPN has matched NBC's $20 million per year offer for the Big East football and basketball games. This is a big blow to NBC Sports Network, which is doing terribly in the ratings and really needed additional football and basketball games, even if it was the depleted Big East.

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NBC late last week agreed to a deal that would put Big East football and basketball games primarily on NBC Sports Network, with the ability to move some games to NBC's broadcast network. ESPN had to decide whether to match that deal by today. It matched the rights fee but is not likely to put any games on its broadcast channel, ABC. Sources say ESPN is likely to sublicense a significant amount of games to other networks, such as Fox Sports, which is launching Fox Sports 1 this summer.
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ESPN has matched NBC's $20 million per year offer for the Big East football and basketball games. This is a big blow to NBC Sports Network, which is doing terribly in the ratings and really needed additional football and basketball games, even if it was the depleted Big East.



http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D.../Big-East.aspx
lol I'll take 10 million and do flag football in my backyard and I bet I could get higher ratings than the big east.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:29 AM   #9344
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ACC football might have been down recently, but at least they have the balls to play real teams....

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ACC teams will play nine games against nonconference teams that finished 2012 ranked in the final Associated Press top 10. No other BCS conference will play more than four nonconference games against 2012 top 10 opponents.

Virginia Tech will face defending national champion Alabama, Virginia will play No. 2 Oregon, both Georgia Tech and Clemson will face No. 3 Georgia, Pitt will play No. 4 Notre Dame and both Clemson and North Carolina will play No. 7 South Carolina.

Both Miami and FSU will also face No. 9 Florida.

Nine games are also against teams included by ESPN in its early top 10 for the 2013 season.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:33 AM   #9345
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ACC football might have been down recently, but at least they have the balls to play real teams....
The fact that the conference is down might be why they're doing this. Conference play is fairly mediocre. If an ACC team wants a shot at a possible national title game they might need to play some tough non-conference games.
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The fact that the conference is down might be why they're doing this. Conference play is fairly mediocre. If an ACC team wants a shot at a possible national title game they might need to play some tough non-conference games.
Not just that but their exposure is down, there viewership on tv isn't as high, they aren't playing it just to say they're giving themselves a challenge.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:11 AM   #9347
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The fact that the conference is down might be why they're doing this. Conference play is fairly mediocre. If an ACC team wants a shot at a possible national title game they might need to play some tough non-conference games.
In their defense, a lot of these deals were likely signed a decade ago.

Like GT currently has deals to play Alabama in 2019/2020 (originally scheduled for 2013/2014) and South Carolina in 2021/2022.

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Old 02-26-2013, 05:25 AM   #9348
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Apparently Georgia Tech is pissed about the schedule provided to them by the ACC.

They made one request to the committee: a bye-week after their trip to Utah. The ACC warned them they likely would not get it because with 2 byes this year, they were placing a bye week before teams Thursday night games and Tech was being considered for 2.

Instead, Tech will be playing Virginia Tech on a Thursday... 5 days after playing North Carolina (Virginia Tech will also be on 5-days rest, though after Marshall). And their bye week is... week 2. Only 2 other teams have a bye week that early: Pitt and FSU, who play the Labor Day game.

Tech's two longest road trips (to Miami and to Utah) are scheduled for consecutive weeks. 3 straight weeks of games before, and 3 straight after.

Both North Carolina and Clemson will have bye weeks before the games, and Pitt is scheduled to play Navy the week prior. Clemson also has their second consecutive home game in the series, though this was requested by GT to get off of having VT, Clemson and UNC on the same home/road schedule. Now they'll have VT and UNC at home, with Clemson and Miami on the road (and rotating each year).

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Source - http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...confusing-case

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There was a moment in the Miami case Friday when infractions committee chairman Britton Banowsky came close to imposing what could be interpreted as a gag order.

A conference call had been called by the Conference USA commissioner for reported "procedural" matters related to the case. On the call were lawyers representing coaches and the university. Multiple sources have told CBSSports.com that Banowsky urged parties to keep from commenting publicly on the contents of the call.

Banowsky's action was covered by Bylaw 32.1.1, the so-called "confidentiality rule," according to the commissioner and NCAA spokesman Stacey Osburn. The bylaw reads: "... an institution and any individual subject to NCAA rules involved in a case shall treat that case under inquiry by the enforcement staff ... as confidential."

Except at that point Miami president Donna Shalala had just got done filleting the NCAA, the process and their main witness.

NCAA president Mark Emmert's announcement of an external review and its results -- including two media conference calls -- seemingly would have violated 32.1.1.

Maybe Banowsky's reminder needed better aim.

"I don't know what procedures they're following these last few months," said Dave Ridpath, professor, academic reformer and former participant in that infractions process. "That goes way beyond any procedure I'm familiar with."

No one doubts the investigative process needs a certain amount of secrecy. But one source says once the notice of allegations is released, what's the point of the muzzle?

"This is unprecedented," said that source, who is familiar with the Miami case. "He's [Banowksy] trying to silence the public discussion because he wants to suppress the negative publicity."

Welcome to another confusing chapter in a case that is now becoming a daily story as well as a national story.

"The NCAA cannot judge itself," CBS basketball analyst Greg Anthony said on the air this weekend. "The public at some point is going to get fed up with this stuff."

What you forgot in the last few months is that Miami is guilty on some yet-to-be determined level in the Nevin Shapiro case. Guilty as hell, in fact. But the NCAA has almost made us forget that fact with a series of those missteps that may leave Miami in better shape at the end of this thing than the nation's college governing body.

Because, as Gregg Doyel has written, this could be the end of the NCAA itself.

The story won't go away in a week or a month, maybe not at all if some participants are now subject to a rule that Shalala and Emmert seemingly already have violated.

Perhaps for the first time, the NCAA itself is on trial. Not involved in a trial; there have been plenty of those. On trial -- in the court of public opinion, at least. So when the association's president is vacationing in Hawaii less than a week after firing his enforcement director, it's ongoing news. Doesn't matter if the vacation was planned to celebrate with a cousin who is also turning 60. He's a public figure making more per year than many of his organization's unpaid laborers -- oops, student-athletes -- will make in a lifetime.

Besides, vacations can be altered to address a crisis.

It's news when the NCAA executive committee feels compelled to issue an unprecedented vote of confidence for its CEO, as it did on Saturday. The release came a mere five days after an external review commissioned by Emmert revealed a lack of oversight that reached up to the No. 2 man in the organization (COO Jim Isch) and perhaps beyond.

It's a big deal when Mountain West presidents are asked to consider "new NCAA leadership or a new organization".

It's equally big when a Florida senator writes the Florida state's attorney, saying NCAA investigators had engaged in "corrupt behavior."

Former USC coach Pete Carroll has weighed in. A source at a BCS school commented to CBSSports.com's Bruce Feldman about Emmert's job security.

This case has given us the heretofore unknown interview technique known as "self-corroboration."

Confidentiality? Central Florida president John Hitt commented publicly last year after his football program was hammered and the school appealed. Ohio State president Gordon Gee sang like a bird throughout his school's sordid case. In another situation involving Emmert, he spoke to CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish about the North Carolina case.

Heck, schools routinely call press conferences to announce notices of allegations.

There is a confidentiality rule. It seems to be applied arbitrarily.

At a time when the NCAA could have chosen to accept Miami's significant self-imposed penalties and move on, this has now become the biggest case in the association's history. Bigger than SMU, USC or Ohio State. Yes, even bigger than Penn State because all the sins of the past have been rolled over to this moment, this conflagration of "missteps."

• The source first listed above added that Banowsky's stance is "offensive and it serves no investigative purpose. The enforcement staff has completed its investigation so there's no reason the parties shouldn't be allowed to speak publicly. "But instead the COI [infractions committee] wants to pull the curtain shut and keep the public in the dark."

• CBSSports.com has learned additionally not all the sources representing clients in the Miami case have received access to the investigative file. The NCAA posts information on a secure web portal that cannot be printed out or copied. Typically, those involved in a case are allowed access to that portal shortly after the notice of allegations goes out. Not so far in the Miami case.

There is a bylaw that says the NCAA has 30 days to provide that information. But, according to the Associated Press, the case is now being fast-tracked. The hope is that Miami can get in front of the infractions committee for the mid-June hearing date scheduled in Indianapolis.

The accused have 90 days to respond to allegations, but delayed access to that file cuts into that time.

• While we debate not speaking in public, it has been a week and new interim enforcement director Jon Duncan has yet to speak publicly. He starts officially March 11. That can't be an excuse in this daily/national story. Duncan must be made available to the media -- soon. At some point, he will be formally overseeing the Miami case.

• More about 32.1.1: Back in August 2011, Emmert posted on the NCAA website that the "alleged conduct" at Miami was one of the reasons he called a presidential summit that month. Even in the NCAA investigative process, there is a presumption of innocence. Soon after, Emmert said he was "fine with" the death penalty in curbing wrongdoing.

"My position hypothetically was, no, you can't take that [death penalty] off the table," Emmert told CBSSports.com told me in November 2011.

In the same interview, he said Miami had been "incredibly cooperative."

A sitting NCAA CEO speaking directly about an ongoing investigation is highly unusual, seemingly textbook violations of 32.1.1. It had happened before. When asked to comment about the USC case that was completed in June 2010 before he took office, Emmert said in December of that year the association "got it right."

One problem: That statement came in the middle of a USC appeal, potentially prejudging the result.

In the Miami case, the NCAA has gone forward with a charge of lack of institutional control after one-fifth of the evidence had been excluded. The ongoing scandal has made this less about Shapiro and more about the NCAA's handling of him. NCAA exhibits made public last week show that enforcement set Shapiro up with his own cell phone at a cost of $4,500. Who would have thought at the beginning of this case that the NCAA CEO's vacation would be a talking point?

Who would have thought when Yahoo Sports broke the story in August 2011 that Miami coaches would be in a position to ask the infractions committee that their charges be dropped?

Just remember, don't breathe a word of it to anyone. Or else.
What a high quality 'investigation' by the NCAA.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:29 PM   #9350
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What a high quality 'investigation' by the NCAA.
Wow, that's actually a really well written, albeit scathing summary of this. Kudos to CBS Sports and thanks for posting
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:43 PM   #9351
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What a high quality 'investigation' by the NCAA.
The NCAA is a cartel. It's more or less a criminal enterprise.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:59 PM   #9352
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I hope we fight these charges like a tenacious Pitbull who was bred to fight. They bungled this entire investigation, and we already punished ourselves a great deal.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:59 PM   #9353
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No surprise but Saban booted the four players involved in those on campus robberies off the Alabama football team. They'll almost certainly be expelled from the university anyway and are facing some real some serious charges and quite a bit of jail time.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ssociated-team

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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- The University of Alabama has dismissed four freshmen charged with either second-degree robbery or credit card fraud.

Defensive back Eddie Williams, 20, and linebackers Tyler Hayes and D.J. Pettway, both 18, were shown the door after being charged with second-degree robbery for their involvement in the separate robberies of two students on the Tuscaloosa campus on Feb. 11. They were subsequently barred from campus while awaiting a ruling from the Student Judicial Board.

Redshirt freshman H-back Brent Calloway was also dismissed after being charged with use of a stolen credit card taken from one of the students allegedly robbed by his teammates. It was the second run-in with the law for the Alabama native. He was charged with second-degree possession of marijuana as a true freshman in 2011.

"UA's judicial review has been completed," Deborah M. Lane, Alabama associate vice president for university relations, said Wednesday. "The four students involved in the robberies on campus are no longer enrolled in UA."

"Based on all the information we've received and going through and trying to determine the future of the four guys that got in trouble, those guys are no longer associated with the football program," Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban said on Wednesday. "Their actions do not reflect the spirit and character that we want our organization to reflect. It's obviously very disappointing and unacceptable what happened."

Williams, a former five-star athlete from Florida, confessed to robbing a student who was punched in the head and face and kicked in the ribs and back. Williams said Pettway and Hayes watched him commit another robbery, according to court records. Calloway admitted to using the stolen credit card for snacks from a vending machine.

Saban would not characterize the dismissal of the players in absolute terms, saying only, "They're not associated with the football program, that's the way I'd put it."

Said Saban: "Some people learn by words. Some people can learn by consequences. Some people can't learn."

All four players were backups during Alabama's run to a second straight national championship this past season. Pettway, who recorded 2.5 sacks and four tackles for loss as a defensive end, was named to the All-SEC freshman team. Hayes had 14 tackles as a freshman, primarily on special teams, including two in the BCS National Championship Game against Notre Dame. Calloway carried the ball just 10 times and Williams was not used at all as the staff opted to redshirt him.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:18 PM   #9354
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I just bought season tickets for Louisville football this coming season and I'm pumped!!

I know our home schedule sucks, but I thought that I'll become a season ticket holder before they go to the ACC and it would be easier to get now.
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I just bought season tickets for Louisville football this coming season and I'm pumped!!

I know our home schedule sucks, but I thought that I'll become a season ticket holder before they go to the ACC and it would be easier to get now.
Awesome.

My parents just got me a ticket for the Georgia/Georgia Tech game for the year (they're season ticket holders, so they can request additional tickets).
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Awesome.

My parents just got me a ticket for the Georgia/Georgia Tech game for the year (they're season ticket holders, so they can request additional tickets).
Are they good seats/view? Mine are in Section 214.
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I'll probably go to at least a few UCF games this upcoming schedule. Even with the downgraded Big East their schedule is far more impressive than it was in past seasons in the lousy CUSA.

For 2013 we have:
Home - Akron, South Carolina, UConn, Houston, Rutgers, South Florida
Away - FIU, Penn St., Memphis, Louisville, Temple, SMU

The most brutal is going to be South Carolina. They might be the best team we've ever hosted in Orlando. I'm a little surprised they agreed to play us on the road non-conference.

Penn St. is another quality non-conference game and Louisville is going to be very good again in 2013. We should have a good team again, but transitioning to a better conference is always difficult early on.
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Are they good seats/view? Mine are in Section 214.
I don't know where my seat is, but they're up in the upper deck in the corner of the endzone. I enjoy the views from higher up anyway for football games, since you can still see the whole field.
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I'm officially an UCLA football season ticket holder now. Usually I go to 2-3 games so figured now's as good a time as any.

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The remnants of the Big East will apparently re-form a new conference called "The America 12 Conference." Thing is it'll only have 10 teams until at least 2015. These conferences really need to stop with the numbers given how often teams join and leave these days.
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