If you buy a Blu ray player in 2011 you better have an HDMI capable TV

[Canada]

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/no..._from_blu-ray/

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Thats nice to know. I'm pretty sure most people will have an HDMI compatible HDTV by 2011. If not, they better get with the program.

[bhampton]

Hi,

Two points...

1) You can buy a little HDMI to RGB/YPbPr converter box for under $200 and they just completely work. Google HDFury for examples.

2) Most people don't have video stuff old enough to not have HDMI at this point.

There are hold outs for analog audio output because people have older high priced stuff that's too good to replace with a modern HDMI Audio capable AVR. I think those people should move that AudioFool gear off into the room with the LP player and just get with the audio side of HDMI as well but that's just me.

Old stuff can be good stuff but the new stuff is great too.

=Brian

[dobyblue]

Even the 2013 spec doesn't prohibit analog AUDIO outputs...so no reason why those users won't still be able to use their existing AV for audio processing and run HDMI directly to their TV.

[blacklion]

I see Hollydoom has been puffing a lot more of that weed which induces in them the delusion that there is a technical fix to stop piracy and who cares if paying consumers are inconvenienced and denied use of legacy equipment that is perfect working order.

As if any of these demented DRM projects has or will ever stop our friends in Shanghai or bored college kids from simply ripping the discs.

They'll be puffing that weed as they steadily and surely go bankrupt.

[Bishop_99]

Well, my main tv only has component inputs and quite frankly I'm not upgrading that tv until it dies.

Besides, anyone who wants to copy a Blu-ray movie will simply use a program to make an exact 1080p duplicate of the Blu-ray disc or simply rip it into the computer, instead of recording a 1080i version in real time. pretty silly if you ask me but if worse comes to worse, I'll just buy the HDFury.

[vettemn86]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Hi,

2) Most people don't have video stuff old enough to not have HDMI at this point.

There are hold outs for analog audio output because people have older high priced stuff that's too good to replace with a modern HDMI Audio capable AVR. I think those people should move that AudioFool gear off into the room with the LP player and just get with the audio side of HDMI as well but that's just me.

Old stuff can be good stuff but the new stuff is great too.

=Brian

I currently do. My calibrated Mitsubishi CRT puts out an unbelievable picture and I dont plan on switching till it dies. My BD is currently hooked up with component (no HDMI) and I would put that picture against anything out there right now. As far as specs changing, I hope they dont think they are going to attempt to gimp current players.

[kdo]

interesting... is there any particular reason this is being done, other than to perhaps attempt combating piracy, as member 'blacklion' states above?

[kdo]

Nope, it's only because of piracy...I just re-read the article, and thus answered my own question...unbelievable. I agree, as soon as you change the technology, the pirates just seem to change with it...

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by kdo

interesting... is there any particular reason this is being done, other than to perhaps attempt combating piracy, as member 'blacklion' states above?

pretty much pirating, but it also simplifies everything only having one type of connector. A manufacturer will put 4 HDMI (for example) and you have 4 A/V+ inputs, while if you wanted to have 4 of any combination you would need 4 composite, 4 s-video, 4 component, 4DVI, 4 HDMI we are already at 20 and that just covers some of the more basic video (i.e. there can also be VGA,Scart ,the endings on analogue could be BNC or RCA....). For audio there is RCA/BNC (analogue), optical, coax.

For those that don't know what BNC and RCA mean, the cables and data that passes over them is the same, but the BNC connector is used on higher grade/pro equipment because the connectors work much better then standard RCA because they "screw in" and are "held in place" so you always have a good connection, unlike RCA where some data can be lost because of a loose connection (especially over time). So any place you see such as analogue audio, component composite, you could have on the cable side which connects to

[Captainhawk1]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Hi,

Two points...

1) You can buy a little HDMI to RGB/YPbPr converter box for under $200 and they just completely work. Google HDFury for examples.

Correct. I think I bought one from monoprice a few years ago for $8.

2) Most people don't have video stuff old enough to not have HDMI at this point.

Absolutely not true. There are a lot of people out there who bought their HDTV's when they were 720p and 1080i max. that still have not upgraded. HDMI on TV sets has only been the standard for a few years.

The piracy thing really confuses me. The fact is that anything digital can be pirated... period. There's no way to truly stop it (just ask the folks at SlySoft) so I don't really get changing the hardware standards to accomodate security features. I'm not saying they should just give up, but the reality is that anyone who's pirating BD really doesn't care about HDMI and the security associated with it. All it really does is force the average consumer to buy new equipment when they had no interest pirating to begin with.

What I think is more likely going on her is collusion to boost the sales of new TV's in an economy that is still struggling.

blacklion, you really are irrational and it's obvious you don't have children (it's also pretty obvious that you are about 14 yourself). Yes, if your kid is on the computer and you don't know what they are doing, then yes, you are a deadbeat, in fact, I would go as far as to say neglectful and abusive. The fact is that today's parents aren't computer illiterate. Today's grandparents, perhaps, but not today's parents. Gen X-ers were raised on a computer.