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[stpat]

The confusion/miscommunication here stems from the fact that a lot of people think that film grain means a bad transfer, and that's not the case at all.

If someone gives a movie a lower PQ rating because of the presence of grain, then they're kinda misinformed.

Originally Posted by thecardman23

i understand the need for grain in certain films to provide grit and environment.. however its a personal preference. some people like it and others dont. personally, i agree with greg in the fact i wouldnt have enjoyed the transfers on these movies better if they had less grain, having said that.. if you enjoy lots of it thats your view. no sense in jumping all over somebody simply bcuz of their opinion.

[wozman]

Can anyone pass me a proof of purchase picture of SPR for $19.99 @ Costco or even an add flyer etc......anything. I was told that is all I need.

I need it to price match @ BB, since they have it for $27.99, (I swapped Avatar for SPR) when I realized that maybe I should just wait for the Avatar with all the extra features....

Can anyone help me out PLEASE,

Thanks again

[thecardman23]

Originally Posted by stpat

The confusion/miscommunication here stems from the fact that a lot of people think that film grain means a bad transfer, and that's not the case at all.

If someone gives a movie a lower PQ rating because of the presence of grain, then they're kinda misinformed.

im not saying film grain = bad transfer. 300 has TONS of grain and ppl give it rave reviews. personally i just dont like too much of it is all. still think transfer was good, but would have gotten higher marks from me if it has some grain, but not too much and i tend to lean towards the clean look of films like transformers, the international etc. i think at the end it comes down to each is own.

[stpat]

Sorry, I didn't mean to direct that at you, it was just a general comment with regards to the SPR PQ...

I'm not a huge fan of grain either, just trying to point out that it doesn't automatically equate to a bad transfer... and again, this isn't directed at you - a lot of people (including someone earlier on in this thread I think) said something to the effect of "how can you say it has good PQ? look at all that grain!"

Originally Posted by thecardman23

im not saying film grain = bad transfer. 300 has TONS of grain and ppl give it rave reviews. personally i just dont like too much of it is all. still think transfer was good, but would have gotten higher marks from me if it has some grain, but not too much and i tend to lean towards the clean look of films like transformers, the international etc. i think at the end it comes down to each is own.

[GreatGreg]

Originally Posted by stpat

Sorry, I didn't mean to direct that at you, it was just a general comment with regards to the SPR PQ...

I'm not a huge fan of grain either, just trying to point out that it doesn't automatically equate to a bad transfer... and again, this isn't directed at you - a lot of people (including someone earlier on in this thread I think) said something to the effect of "how can you say it has good PQ? look at all that grain!"

I think it is hilarious how people spend thousands on their HT setup, and then like to watch 'grain'.

That is like
o enjoying pops, hisses, and cracks from records and cassettes on your audio system
o watching regular cable on your HDTV
o running Windows 3.1 on your current laptop
o playing PAC-MAN on your PS3

Most television shows from the 80s were recorded in SD only. If they were to be re-released on BD, would these people re-buy the same shows and marvel at how 'warm' and 'soft' the pictures were from the 80s sitcoms?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I think it is hilarious how people spend thousands on their HT setup, and then like to watch 'grain'.

That is like
o enjoying pops, hisses, and cracks from records and cassettes on your audio system
o watching regular cable on your HDTV
o running Windows 3.1 on your current laptop
o playing PAC-MAN on your PS3

Most television shows from the 80s were recorded in SD only. If they were to be re-released on BD, would these people re-buy the same shows and marvel at how 'warm' and 'soft' the pictures were from the 80s sitcoms?

we spend that much money in order to watch our films/shows etc in the most ACCURATE presentation possible. Not the shiniest "looks like Avatar" presentation for EVERY film etc..

[tilallr1]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I think it is hilarious how people spend thousands on their HT setup, and then like to watch 'grain'.

I don't think its necessarily because people like grain or not. Grain is apart of film. Even brand spanking new films have lots of grain in them. I think the only complaint people have is when grain is digitally removed. It always reduces the PQ quality and sharpness, which IMO is much more important to me. Which is why I agree with most people that grain is a good thing.

I think grain is something we all have to live with and accept. Until they stop using film to make films. Which is starting to happen with digital cameras. But some film makers go to the trouble a adding back grain to a digital film (For example in 300 or Superman Returns) to give it a film like quality. Remember for MOST filmmakers, GRAIN does not equal bad, it equals good. They want you to see the film that way.

[Inspector Toschi]

Originally Posted by thecardman23

im not saying film grain = bad transfer. 300 has TONS of grain and ppl give it rave reviews. personally i just dont like too much of it is all. still think transfer was good, but would have gotten higher marks from me if it has some grain, but not too much and i tend to lean towards the clean look of films like transformers, the international etc. i think at the end it comes down to each is own.

I don't think anyone has a problem with someone disliking grain or their disliking for any stylistic choice for that matter. I'm sure we all have our disliking for something, etc.

My comments were mostly directed at GreatGreg and his comment:

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

My comments were mainly directed at comments saying that both SPR and MINORITY REPORT were supposed to be grainy. I don't personally believe it to be so.

He perfectly summed up how he felt with that. Which I have no problem with, except that it's not an opinion. Grain just doesn't accidentally show up. And now we have people on some forums (Including the ever crazy AVS) thinking this could be an average transfer because people don't understand why the grain is there. And for some reason people like to listen to the lone negative ones as oppose to the majority which is saying this is a great transfer. Which it is.

Again, I have no problem with someones disliking of grain. I just love SPR, and this is how it's supposed to look. This is how it looked in theaters, this is how it looked on VHS, DVD and on TV. The Blu-ray is perfect. Honestly, after watching the whole film yesterday, it easily has some the best detail I've ever seen. Just watch the whole chapter of when Vin Diesel gets sniped and especially the last battle at Ramelle. Whether you're into grain or not, I don't know how anyone can say it looks average.

[tilallr1]

Originally Posted by Inspector Toschi

I don't think anyone has a problem with someone disliking grain or their disliking for any stylistic choice for that matter. I'm sure we all have our disliking for something, etc.

My comments were mostly directed at GreatGreg and his comment:


He perfectly summed up how he felt with that. Which I have no problem with, except that it's not an opinion. Grain just doesn't accidentally show up. And now we have people on some forums (Including the ever crazy AVS) thinking this could be an average transfer because people don't understand why the grain is there. And for some reason people like to listen to the lone negative ones as oppose to the majority which is saying this is a great transfer. Which it is.

Again, I have no problem with someones disliking of grain. I just love SPR, and this is how it's supposed to look. This is how it looked in theaters, this is how it looked on VHS, DVD and on TV. The Blu-ray is perfect. Honestly, after watching the whole film yesterday, it easily has some the best detail I've ever seen. Just watch the whole chapter of when Vin Diesel gets sniped and especially the last battle at Ramelle. Whether you're into grain or not, I don't know how anyone can say it looks average.

I think HD is opening peoples eyes to grain in film. Higher PQ/Sharpness = more noticeable grain. In all honesty its possible that they never saw grain in their home environments before, since SD PQ was alot more fuzzy and soft.

[thecardman23]

Originally Posted by stpat

Sorry, I didn't mean to direct that at you, it was just a general comment with regards to the SPR PQ...

I'm not a huge fan of grain either, just trying to point out that it doesn't automatically equate to a bad transfer... and again, this isn't directed at you - a lot of people (including someone earlier on in this thread I think) said something to the effect of "how can you say it has good PQ? look at all that grain!"

no offense taken

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I think it is hilarious how people spend thousands on their HT setup, and then like to watch 'grain'.

That is like
o enjoying pops, hisses, and cracks from records and cassettes on your audio system
o watching regular cable on your HDTV
o running Windows 3.1 on your current laptop
o playing PAC-MAN on your PS3

Most television shows from the 80s were recorded in SD only. If they were to be re-released on BD, would these people re-buy the same shows and marvel at how 'warm' and 'soft' the pictures were from the 80s sitcoms?

i have to disagree with you here. i think some grain is important to preserve the cinematic feel to movies according to how the director intended them to be seen. i think ppl look for it bcuz if it gets artificially removed then the image has been distorted and you are not watching the film as the director intended. just for my taste i dont mind some of it but when it begins to overwhelm the image with thick clouds that is where i start to think it it should be eased up. however i think ppl have said all thats needed to on this issue and dont feel like beating it to death.

[Rhylliam]

Originally Posted by wozman

Can anyone pass me a proof of purchase picture of SPR for $19.99 @ Costco or even an add flyer etc......anything. I was told that is all I need.

I need it to price match @ BB, since they have it for $27.99, (I swapped Avatar for SPR) when I realized that maybe I should just wait for the Avatar with all the extra features....

Can anyone help me out PLEASE,

Thanks again

They likely will not price match Costco, since a membership is required there. If I worked @ BB, I wouldn't PM.

[Inspector Toschi]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I think it is hilarious how people spend thousands on their HT setup, and then like to watch 'grain'.

That is like
o enjoying pops, hisses, and cracks from records and cassettes on your audio system
o watching regular cable on your HDTV
o running Windows 3.1 on your current laptop
o playing PAC-MAN on your PS3

Most television shows from the 80s were recorded in SD only. If they were to be re-released on BD, would these people re-buy the same shows and marvel at how 'warm' and 'soft' the pictures were from the 80s sitcoms?

You realize you've lost all credibility you may have once had... You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in this subject. You've made this quite clear from you ridiculous assumptions and equally ridiculous analogies. Quite honestly, I'm starting to think you're not even serious. At this point, you'd look better saying "I'm just a forum troll!"

[roseman]

went to burlington costco tonight, picked up gladiator and braveheart (they had lots of both). They didn't have any SPR, and only one copy of Indiana Jones left, but I haven't even watched it again since picking up a used dvd. They had 2 Rocky Bolboa @ 14.99. They did have others there, Dusk til Dawn, Forrest Gump, and can't remember the others.

For what it's worth - both Gladiator / Braveheart have rebates available... need to cut out the proof of purchase on both bluray and original dvd - $10 rebate... I wasn't going to, but they came with slipcovers so it wouldn't be as noticeable, and 20 bucks is still 20 bucks and could get me a couple more blu's...

[laptophound]

anyone notice if Costco got any Doctor Zhivago's in this week, and if so what the price was?

looking for a better deal then the $29.99 that most have on right now - I hear this movie is definitely worth a blind buy

[Inspector Toschi]

No luck with Zhivago last Tuesday. They had the new DVD for 18.99, but no Blu-ray. I even looked in their un-opened boxes that were below the BD stand hoping they merely hadn't opened it yet. No luck. From what I gather, they didn't get them in. I'll probably just wait a month and pick it up used or on sale. If not I think you can already get WB's UK BD (Which is identical, sans book cover) for under 15.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by Rhylliam

They likely will not price match Costco, since a membership is required there. If I worked @ BB, I wouldn't PM.

if you are a BB employee, what difference does it make? You are an employee with a contract, if BB loses money from price matching you personally won't lose money at the end of the week.

seeing how expensive new games, movies, etc. are right now, I would do everything I could to help customers get a deal if I worked at Best Buy, Future Shop, Wal-Mart, HMV... you get it

[thecardman23]

Originally Posted by nmycon

if you are a BB employee, what difference does it make? You are an employee with a contract, if BB loses money from price matching you personally won't lose money at the end of the week.

seeing how expensive new games, movies, etc. are right now, I would do everything I could to help customers get a deal if I worked at Best Buy, Future Shop, Wal-Mart, HMV... you get it

except for the fact they could get into trouble for breaking the rules as they probably KNOW they are not suppose to do it. why would you ever risk getting into trouble/ loosing your job to save somebody you dont even know a few bucks.

[nmycon]

well, assuming they don't actually tell you "never price match with costco"

if someone came saying costco has whatever for $10 cheaper than you do, I would match it for them, I wouldn't make up some "policy" about how costco requires a membership and refuse to help them unless strictly told to do so by my boss

[Rhylliam]

Originally Posted by nmycon

well, assuming they don't actually tell you "never price match with costco"

if someone came saying costco has whatever for $10 cheaper than you do, I would match it for them, I wouldn't make up some "policy" about how costco requires a membership and refuse to help them unless strictly told to do so by my boss

I used to work at a major retail store, & we were actually told to never match Costco.

[nmycon]

ok then that makes sense
what if the person even had a membership card on hand to show you? still no?
just wondering