The rumor is that Warner is coming aboard soon

[scragham]

wow, this one's going to get the red ants all in a lather. like someone kicked their anthill...

prepare for the invasion of the trolls... part XXII

[lrankine]

Originally Posted by Beta-guy

when/if Warner annouces Blu exclusivity, I plan on buying a HD-DVD player (it'll be a collectors item like the betamax)

I've still got my Betamax........and a whole box of homemade movies. One of these days I'm going to get it out of the basement to see if it still works. I'm hoping it does but I'm sure my adult children are scared to death of that possibility. Having gone through one of these "wars" before (and being on the losing side ) I made the jump to Blue because I feel strongly that Sony will not let this happen again. The fact that BD is a technically superior format also helps.........unfortunately that same fact didn't help Betamax.

[hc666]

Hopefully there is some truth to this. I want one format in the end.

[Downhere]

Originally Posted by hc666

Hopefully there is some truth to this. I want one format in the end.

I think everyone does.

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Downhere

I think everyone does.

true day playa hehe

Good article, just finished reading. Will be very interesting indeed.

Nice to see an actual posted news article on the matter. Been awhile!

[bhampton]

Quote "I want one format in the end."

Quote "I think everyone does. "

That doesn't explain why you bought both.

-Brian

[T-Town Oil]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Quote "I want one format in the end."

Quote "I think everyone does. "

That doesn't explain why you bought both.

-Brian

i agree!

[hc666]

Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

i agree!

Once again a good topic turns into attacks

Let's stay on topic... Warner.

[rwduke]

Originally Posted by RedIsNotBlue

Nah I don't see Paramount getting out of their contract early. What it ends in Q3 of 2008?? I think will ride it out till the end and come back to Blu-ray heads hung in shame.

If Warner does go blu-ray exclusive, I hope Paramount cannot get out of their contract. I would love to see them pay for their greed by being the only studio not releasing on blu-ray. They don't deserve blu-ray sales for another year. Let everyone buy movies from all the other studios except for them. Now that would be justice.

[Downhere]

Originally Posted by bhampton

That doesn't explain why you bought both.

-Brian

[rwduke]

Originally Posted by Jack

It's AVS...they would even deny and delete an official press release...

AVS has really lost it. Since their last lock-down on posts, I hardly even visit. I'm sure they have lost a lot of members over the last month or so.

[Neo65]

Even if it turns out to be true. There's nothing to gain to dwell on this.

My only comment would be. If Warner does this, they should show that they are a classy organization and complete their announced red titles, not stop what they already promised the red camp. That sort of thing is what creates a lot of bad blood. All Warner has to do is to state a date when they will make the move and that would be enough. They don't have to drop red titles already in the pipe.

That should maintain some semblance of decorum in what is about to come if this were to happen.

As for paramount, can anyone really say that the paramount/viacom executives had a bad deal. The financial terms are too difficult to pass up. If you were in their shoes, you'd be dumb to not take the deal. (As long as there is an expiry date).

[clownface]

I hope that this is TRUE! LOTR exclusively on Blu ray would be tough to beat!

[Neo65]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Quote "I want one format in the end."

Quote "I think everyone does. "

That doesn't explain why you bought both.

-Brian

I also want one format. But I want to watch movies more than I want to get involved in a jihad. The only thing I feel guilty about when buying the rare red movies now is that deep down, I have this belief that one of the main contributing factor for why the projected Dec '07 sales by both camps were being missed by such large numbers is because of the format war turning off the general public.

In a way, when the DVD sales decline, that must make the studios think carefully about this.

(a) Is the perception of DVD about to become obsolete with the nextgen DVD causing a significant percentage of DVD owners to slow down their DVD purchases?
(b) Is the existence of a format war slowing down the HDM adoption (even combined)
(c) Can both formats thrive and grow to replace the decline in DVD revenues?

If this is how they strategize, then it should be clear to all that the DVD revenue decline (and especially when all the signs were there before 2005) is the single most powerful factor to force the studios to plan ahead instead of procastinating, hoping for someone else to make a decision.

What seems clear to me is that the bulk of consumer is not going to make a real choice. Their only choice so far is to generally ignore this mess.

[ground chuck]

that was one of the few good articles on the format war that i've read in a long time. obviously, the news is good for blu, which is why everyone needs to be a harry potter movie even if they don't like harry potter.

our numbers should crush hd-dvd next week.....oh, i can't wait.

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Neo65

I also want one format. But I want to watch movies more than I want to get involved in a jihad. The only thing I feel guilty about when buying the rare red movies now is that deep down, I have this belief that one of the main contributing factor for why the projected Dec '07 sales by both camps were being missed by such large numbers is because of the format war turning off the general public.

In a way, when the DVD sales decline, that must make the studios think carefully about this.

(a) Is the perception of DVD about to become obsolete with the nextgen DVD causing a significant percentage of DVD owners to slow down their DVD purchases?
(b) Is the existence of a format war slowing down the HDM adoption (even combined)
(c) Can both formats thrive and grow to replace the decline in DVD revenues?

If this is how they strategize, then it should be clear to all that the DVD revenue decline (and especially when all the signs were there before 2005) is the single most powerful factor to force the studios to plan ahead instead of procastinating, hoping for someone else to make a decision.

What seems clear to me is that the bulk of consumer is not going to make a real choice. Their only choice so far is to generally ignore this mess.

I really wish we could all just get along and argue about if a movie sucked or not lol not how we watched it.

Hopefully soon

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Jack

Right, the gap in sales increased but even with a 25% market, warner IS making money with HD DVD. I don't think they simply watch soft- and hardware sales and decide. Sure, BDA is in huge advantage (software sales, PS3+Player sales) and has a momentum, but to really convince Warner to go exclusive, they need to offer them royalties and/or money to compensate the (few) losses they will make by abandoning the red side. By the way, we need to buy more of those Harry Potter movies on blu

Warner knows that when they announce exclusive support for one format ofr the other it will be a huge boost to that format. If it's HD DVD, they have two major studios announcing exclusive support after the formats have been in existence for a while and within a year of each other - niche status guaranteed as this "boost" would be only amongst early adopters.

If they choose Blu-ray, where their titles already sell well, with movies like The Dark Knight, Harry potter 6, 10,000 B.C. and the totally awesome looking Speed Racer, it would spell L-I-G-H-T-S-O-U-T for HD DVD quicker than you can say "Matrix Trilogy coming to Blu-ray by June 2008" as the studio support would be undeniably in Blu-ray's corner wayyyy more than it already is (Warner/New Line 1-2 punch - LOTR, etc.) and you know Universal would get the **** out of there real quick.

Warner don't want to just make money, they want to make LOTS of money and supporting both formats is not doing it for them. They don't need lots of royalties waved in front of their faces, they already have patents in Blu-ray Disc technology.

The only logical conclusion one can draw who isn't a total HD DVD fanatic is that Warner will be going Blu-ray exclusive in 2008.

Time Warner will overrule Ron Sanders who is the only reason Warner is still releasing HD DVD throughout Q4/07. it's good to see Stringer talking right to the Time Warner heads. They are the one ring to rule them all, so to speak.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Joon

This could set off a domino effect. Paramount will not opt out of their deal, that 150 mill is still more then they would have made using both formats. However, Warner's move could cause Universal(as already stated) to follow suit and then Weinstein. I don't think HD-DVD can hold on with just Paramount. Their whole existence is set up on a very delicate set up and only having 3 studio is dangerous. It is like playing war and they have 10 cards left and BD has 42. Eventually the 42 will take the 10 and end the game.

I think Weinstein Blu-ray titles are a lot closer than we are led to believe.

[Rup_Muk]

When I saw this thread, I went, Uh Oh, another SA0CD (Bastard)!

But, then I looked again, - and I saw an actual linkie this time.

Here's to hoping....

Rup.

[JackStraw]

I like the fact that it's a Business Week article from today, not from some second rate rag from a few months ago. I'd say right now that the best thing to do is to hold tight and buy an extra Warner blu ray or two if you can.

If I was on the red side I'd be looking at my Toshiba player and wonder how much longer I'd be able to buy new movies for it.