Avengers: Infinity War 4K UHD (2018)

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Haven't been to the Infinity War movie thread in months, but a headline on Google News just spoiled something pretty big. Nowhere is safe.

It doesn’t help when people see a TV spot, make an assumption and act like it’s 100% confirmed.

[clemdog]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

would that decision be with Marvel Studios or Disney? The latter seems very dictatorial with how the movie's is released to the paying masses on home video form. Wish Marvel and Pixar would get final say on their home video transfers, because the UHD's lately haven't 'sounded' all that great.

Of course they get final say...

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by clemdog

Of course they get final say...

oh so compressing the dynamic range is acceptable and Marvel/Pixar are just playing along and don't want to upset the apple cart ... yeah, riiiiight.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

And this post reminds me to stop reading this thread soon as someone around here will make an effort to spoil the details.

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Oh, that’s going to happen immediately. My tickets are for Sunday and I’m 100% sure the movie will be spoiled here by then. Today’s the last day I come near this place.

I was scrolling through my YouTube recommendations today and there was a video with a possible major spoiler right in the damn headline. Let's just say I hope it was a fake headline. I won't be seeing the movie until the home video 4k release.

[BozQ]

It's really hard to say which version we will get on 4K Blu-ray.
This really is the first of its kind to be shot entirely with Alexa 65 IMAX, and then presented in two ratios.

If it's anything to go by, Marvel Studios have the track record of releasing the VAR version at least on 3D BD. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 and 2, Captain America: Civil War, Doctor Strange, Thor: Ragnarok, and hopefully Black Panther too. So there's a pretty good chance we'll see it for Infinity War 3D. But not in US.

It WILL be crazy if this was released on 4K BD with the IMAX AR, Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos. Because this combination is just not possible in cinemas.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by BozQ

It's really hard to say which version we will get on 4K Blu-ray.
This really is the first of its kind to be shot entirely with Alexa 65 IMAX, and then presented in two ratios.

If it's anything to go by, Marvel Studios have the track record of releasing the VAR version at least on 3D BD. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 and 2, Captain America: Civil War, Doctor Strange, Thor: Ragnarok, and hopefully Black Panther too. So there's a pretty good chance we'll see it for Infinity War 3D. But not in US.

It WILL be crazy if this was released on 4K BD with the IMAX AR, Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos. Because this combination is just not possible in cinemas.

They could release the standard BD in Imax AR than the 4K BD with Dolby Vision and Atmos which would give you both the Imax experience and the Dolby Cinema experience but separate

[Doctorossi]

If they do go with two versions, I really think they should include both in the UHD set. I don't think they will, but I think they should.

[legends of beyond]

Forbes has posted an article with ALL Infinity War spoilers. Just a reminder to stop using the internet, or browse carefully If you can't help yourself like me.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

personally and I feel other odd in stating this, as I generally side with 'original theatrical' presentations, but having the full image to make us of 4K picture quality on home theater televisions and less letterboxing would be an incentive for some to buy and swing over to the new medium.

Then buy a TV that's larger than what you would normally buy so that a widescreen 2.4:1 AR has the equivalent height of the TV you were originally going to buy. Then, instead of considering a widescreen movie shorter, you can consider a 1.85 film taller.

Movies of this nature need to be wide. Unless they have dinosaurs, they don't need to be tall. Ignore the black bars. Just make believe they're not there.
You know unlike in the film days, most theaters today (some Dolby Vision screens are exceptions) project common width, not common height, so that widescreen movies are actually smaller in height than 1.85 films. But you don't usually notice if the theater has masking. Just consider the black bars to be masking. In the film days, proper theaters were common height.

Resolution is the least of the reasons to buy a 4K TV as most people can't perceive it unless they're sitting within two feet of the TV. The reason to buy a 4K TV is wider color gamut, HDR and Dolby Vision support. Those are all far more perceivable than 4K, especially considering that most 4K releases are made from a 2K digital intermediate and even when they're not, all the effects are still rendered in 2K and a film like this is almost all effects.

There's nothing important contained in the taller frame of IMAX. The films are composed to 2.4:1. They're protected to something like 1.4:1. One of the problems with IMAX is that the aspect ratios vary so much from theater to theater and whether the theater was originally a 70mm IMAX or a later-built digital IMAX theater. So they really can't put anything important outside the 2.4:1 frame. Some IMAX theaters are around 1.4:1, some are 1.9:1, etc., depending upon the limitations of the architecture.

Unfortunately, when HDTV was developed, SMPTE standardized on 16:9 (1.78:1). The Director's Guild wanted 2.0:1. That would have been the better compromise. 2.35:1 films would have had smaller black bars top and bottom and 1.85 films would have had small black bars left and right. I think SMPTE didn't realize how fast TV production would switch to HDTV and the wider A.R. There were a number of reasons why SMPTE chose 16:9, but it's too detailed to go into here.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by legends of beyond

Forbes has posted an article with ALL Infinity War spoilers. Just a reminder to stop using the internet, or browse carefully If you can't help yourself like me.

Howard the Duck has the Soul Stone.
Because his name starts with H.

[buckeye1]

Anyone know what the run time of this is? I'm guessing 2hrs. 25 min.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

If they do go with two versions, I really think they should include both in the UHD set. I don't think they will, but I think they should.

Oooor sold separately.
Maybe the 1080p disc in 2.40:1, and Ultra HD 1.90:1

Or maybe follow Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen or Star Trek Into Darkness and release a "Big Screen Edition" separately.

[Scorpion Soldier]

Originally Posted by buckeye1

Anyone know what the run time of this is? I'm guessing 2hrs. 25 min.

2hrs 29 min. to be exact.

Just came back from my midnight showing in Dolby Cinema 3D. What a powerhouse of a movie Not gonna give any spoilers. It does have to juggle a bit with characters at times but man what a ride!

Aspect-ratio wise the framing looked perfect in 2.39:1 tbh. Gonna watch it in IMAX 3D later this week to compare, but tbh I'm already expecting a case of simply more headroom.

[buckeye1]

Originally Posted by Scorpion Soldier

2hrs 29 min. to be exact.

Just came back from my midnight showing in Dolby Cinema 3D. What a powerhouse of a movie Not gonna give any spoilers. It does have to juggle a bit with characters at times but man what a ride!

Aspect-ratio wise the framing looked perfect in 2.39:1 tbh. Gonna watch it in IMAX 3D later this week to compare, but tbh I'm already expecting a case of simply more headroom.

Man I was close...off by 4 min. Glad you enjoyed it. A buddy from work is going to see it either Friday or Sat night...hopefully he won't give to much away.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Unfortunately, when HDTV was developed, SMPTE standardized on 16:9 (1.78:1). The Director's Guild wanted 2.0:1. That would have been the better compromise. 2.35:1 films would have had smaller black bars top and bottom and 1.85 films would have had small black bars left and right. I think SMPTE didn't realize how fast TV production would switch to HDTV and the wider A.R. There were a number of reasons why SMPTE chose 16:9, but it's too detailed to go into here.

Director's Guild? Other than Vittorio Storaro I don't recall anyone pushing for 2:1 - 16x9 was chosen because it's in between 2.35 and 1.33, there's close to a century of material in the 1.33/1.37 ratio be it theatrically or television (pillarboxing 1.33 and letterboxing 2.35 would be roughly the same amount of black bars). It's HDTV, not HDCinema.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Then buy a TV that's larger than what you would normally buy so that a widescreen 2.4:1 AR has the equivalent height of the TV you were originally going to buy. Then, instead of considering a widescreen movie shorter, you can consider a 1.85 film taller.

Movies of this nature need to be wide. Unless they have dinosaurs, they don't need to be tall. Ignore the black bars. Just make believe they're not there.
You know unlike in the film days, most theaters today (some Dolby Vision screens are exceptions) project common width, not common height, so that widescreen movies are actually smaller in height than 1.85 films. But you don't usually notice if the theater has masking. Just consider the black bars to be masking. In the film days, proper theaters were common height.

Resolution is the least of the reasons to buy a 4K TV as most people can't perceive it unless they're sitting within two feet of the TV. The reason to buy a 4K TV is wider color gamut, HDR and Dolby Vision support. Those are all far more perceivable than 4K, especially considering that most 4K releases are made from a 2K digital intermediate and even when they're not, all the effects are still rendered in 2K and a film like this is almost all effects.

There's nothing important contained in the taller frame of IMAX. The films are composed to 2.4:1. They're protected to something like 1.4:1. One of the problems with IMAX is that the aspect ratios vary so much from theater to theater and whether the theater was originally a 70mm IMAX or a later-built digital IMAX theater. So they really can't put anything important outside the 2.4:1 frame. Some IMAX theaters are around 1.4:1, some are 1.9:1, etc., depending upon the limitations of the architecture.

Unfortunately, when HDTV was developed, SMPTE standardized on 16:9 (1.78:1). The Director's Guild wanted 2.0:1. That would have been the better compromise. 2.35:1 films would have had smaller black bars top and bottom and 1.85 films would have had small black bars left and right. I think SMPTE didn't realize how fast TV production would switch to HDTV and the wider A.R. There were a number of reasons why SMPTE chose 16:9, but it's too detailed to go into here.

you're preaching to the choir buddy. That's why three of the best theaters in and around the DC either have horizontal or vertical masking, AMC Uptown and Mazza the former, and Arclight Bethesda on their 'widescreen' screen they can open and drop down the top masking for either scope of flat AR movie dimensions.

[Pieter V]

https://www.amazon.fr/Avengers-Infin...4644041&sr=1-1

August 31st, 2018.

[TheSweetieMan]

Hey Piet,

do you know what the Dolby Cinema DCP is for Infinity War?

I'm seeing it Friday night. Curious to know if it's a 2K or 4K DCP.

[TpFox]

If we could get a steelbook or even regular release of the theatrical poster, I'll be all over it.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Hey Piet,

do you know what the Dolby Cinema DCP is for Infinity War?

I'm seeing it Friday night. Curious to know if it's a 2K or 4K DCP.

Thinks it's 2K. In my country all screenings are Dolby Cinema 3D.