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Old 10-08-2018, 01:49 AM   #81
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Since I'm not so sure about upgrading this movie to 4K, can any of you see any tiny "imperfections" about the Blu-Ray transfer that could be fixed in 4K?
Can't think of any here... But if they put BATB out with that jerky scene when there is existing animation, just for the sake of "a convenient transition into the new number" I am going to scream.

(Also, why are there two threads for this?)
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:07 AM   #82
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Since I'm not so sure about upgrading this movie to 4K, can any of you see any tiny "imperfections" about the Blu-Ray transfer that could be fixed in 4K?
They can fix the shot of Simba chasing after Mufassa's ghost by re-inserting the rolling clouds.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:08 AM   #83
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One last thing and then off to bed...here's a question.

Should Toy Story have film grain? Those digital files in original release were written to film, too. Toy Story's original theatrical presentation was a film print, not a digital file projected via a digital projector...yet I never hear anyone asking for a home video release derived from a scan of Toy Story's *film* negative. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The way I see it, traditional animation's final output is film. It should be shown with the grain intact.

With Toy Story, the final output is digital. You also lose picture quality if you scanned a film out.

With CAPS titles I can see merits either way- accessing the CAPS files directly would be the highest quality source.

However, these titles were all printed to film and keeping a filmic look is preserving the original theatrical look and feel.

For CAPS I personally prefer film grain as it adds a bit of texture and depth to the image. If Disney uses the CAPS files directly I would be fine with it (not sure if they can) but if they scan a film out, the grain should be left intact. It also avoids all the annoying smearing, etc that DNR can cause.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:17 AM   #84
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The way I see it, traditional animation's final output is film. It should be shown with the grain intact.

With Toy Story, the final output is digital. You also lose picture quality if you scanned a film out.

With CAPS titles I can see merits either way- accessing the CAPS files directly would be the highest quality source.

However, these titles were all printed to film and keeping a filmic look is preserving the original theatrical look and feel.

For CAPS I personally prefer film grain as it adds a bit of texture and depth to the image. If Disney uses the CAPS files directly I would be fine with it (not sure if they can) but if they scan a film out, the grain should be left intact. It also avoids all the annoying smearing, etc that DNR can cause.
ideally, but with some of the recent bluray releases of Animated Classics from Disney Home Video, the striping away of grain has been a bit extreme and not in the good sense.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:49 AM   #85
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They can fix the shot of Simba chasing after Mufassa's ghost by re-inserting the rolling clouds.
They already fixed it in the current Blu-Ray.
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:33 AM   #86
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I hope they don't muck up the audio on this one. smh lol.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:30 PM   #87
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^ I wouldn't be holding my breath... There has been a couple of Disney titles not affected by the audio troubles. Hopefully they put the legacy audio from blu-ray on there. They really ought to be doing that as practice!
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:49 PM   #88
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You know there's gonna be an Atmouse remix lol, I'd be shocked if there isn't.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:57 PM   #89
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You know there's gonna be an Atmouse remix lol, I'd be shocked if there isn't.
I can't wait to turn my surround sound up to +25 decibels just to hear it.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:00 PM   #90
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Since I'm not so sure about upgrading this movie to 4K, can any of you see any tiny "imperfections" about the Blu-Ray transfer that could be fixed in 4K?
It's not about fixing "imperfections" dude, it's about improving dynamic range and color.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:25 PM   #91
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It's not about fixing "imperfections" dude, it's about improving dynamic range and color.
I'm not exactly sure how this works, but certain 1080p movies on my 4K TV look brighter and more color-saturated. I sometimes can't decide which is the more appropriate look for the movie.

See? Here's a comparison for The Incredibles:

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Old 10-08-2018, 06:29 PM   #92
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I'm not exactly sure how this works, but certain 1080p movies on my 4K TV look brighter and more color-saturated. I sometimes can't decide which is the more appropriate look for the movie.

See? Here's a comparison for The Incredibles:
What TV do you have? Looks like ye olde poor HDR and color volume problem.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:35 PM   #93
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What TV do you have? Looks like ye olde poor HDR and color volume problem.
A Samsung UN55MU8000FXZA.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:51 PM   #94
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I think it all depends on the content I'm watching.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:36 PM   #95
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Didn't see this already posted, my bad if it was (via Bill Hunt's Twitter):

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I like the art, but I don't care for the placement/design of the title.
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I actually really like it, but that MA banner is still annoying as all hell.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:06 PM   #98
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Wow, love that cover! Well, i guess that settles any dilemma I had in my head about buying this
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I love that cover, a major improvement over the Signature release.
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this would be the perfect time for best buy to make amends for the blu steelbook exclusive. Though, since canada's bb page is already listed, who knows if that'll be a thing.
They're not going to come out with anything more understated or classy than the Viva Metal Box that was released as a Best Buy US/Future Shop exclusive for the 3-D release in 2011.



I'll be tossing out the DVD from that set and replacing it with the upcoming 4K disc.
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