Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Oh they did actually hit the UK store. But I think they were either released first in the US and I couldn’t wait or they were a lot cheaper in the US store which is why I picked them up there.

I see, thanks. Yes, I got all three on sale for $17.50 about before tax. Good deal compared to 39.99 regular price I believe it was.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by Derb

San Andreas is trending in the top 3 sales on PSN now.

Sad to see people need something like this to happen for them to buy a game, and not just buy a game that's been available for many years on PSN simply because it's good, or because they like it.

Just like Sony removing the PS3 store from the marketplace. It was available for over a decade, yet the moment they announce they'll be removing it only then do people start buying the games.

[Zivouhr]

Would be cool if GTAIII included aircraft in addition to the clunky Dodo hidden plane that was super tough to fly without crashing.

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

Sad to see people need something like this to happen for them to buy a game, and not just buy a game that's been available for many years on PSN simply because it's good, or because they like it.

Just like Sony removing the PS3 store from the marketplace. It was available for over a decade, yet the moment they announce they'll be removing it only then do people start buying the games.

I hear what you're saying, though an item becoming rare or discontinued is sort of like when a famous singer dies, how album sales skyrocket, with their death being a reminder of what people valued in the past but forgot about or lost.

[ShellOilJunior]

I might be one of 8 people on the planet that's never played a GTA game so I may get this set. Safe to jump in with any of these 3 titles to start?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

I might be one of 8 people on the planet that's never played a GTA game so I may get this set. Safe to jump in with any of these 3 titles to start?

Probably better to start with GTA5 at that point

The things that made it memorable and generation defining with GTA3/Vice/San Andreas are all well baked in to most games now, you won't get the WOW factor that everyone else was experiencing back then through each game. If anything it'll be a slog with the outdated gameplay etc.

Whereas 5 you might really appreciate it as a whole

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

I might be one of 8 people on the planet that's never played a GTA game so I may get this set. Safe to jump in with any of these 3 titles to start?

You should play Vice City first cause it's the best one.

[Havok83]

Did they fix the load times with the PSN versions? I remember in the original releases there was a long load time travelling between islands. It better be seamless with these

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

You should play Vice City first cause it's the best one.

If he's gonna play all 3, he should start with GTA3

[Batman90]

Originally Posted by Havok83

Did they fix the load times with the PSN versions? I remember in the original releases there was a long load time travelling between islands. It better be seamless with these



If he's gonna play all 3, he should start with GTA3

I’m going to wait to buy these. There’s no reason why these should have loading screens in the game. All this talk about how great SSD’s are and yet we still have loading screens.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

Sad to see people need something like this to happen for them to buy a game, and not just buy a game that's been available for many years on PSN simply because it's good, or because they like it.

Just like Sony removing the PS3 store from the marketplace. It was available for over a decade, yet the moment they announce they'll be removing it only then do people start buying the games.

Fear of missing out

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by Batman90

I’m going to wait to buy these. There’s no reason why these should have loading screens in the game. All this talk about how great SSD’s are and yet we still have loading screens.

On one hand, i understand what you mean, but they're remasters and not remakes, so for nostalgia it makes sense to have the "loading screens" as they used to look and appear, but make them like something that can be skipped with a button prompt like X etc. because they're running off the NVMe etc.

If there was a modern update to Vice City for GTA 6, that would be pretty damn sweet but the PS2 games definitely one of the fondest memories in the series for me. I just vibe with the 80s tunes and the story just had it down.

[Zivouhr]

An option to shut off loading screens would be welcome, yes for PS5.
PS4 will require regular loading. PS5, about 2 seconds tops.
While driving in GTA3, entering the mall in VC and some interiors in SA, no loading would be more immersive. Rockstar's goal back then was to try to make it seamless as much as they could.

I miss all of the cool RPG elments of SA not in GTAV, like exercise and food affecting the character's weight. That was really unique.

[captainsolo]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

I might be one of 8 people on the planet that's never played a GTA game so I may get this set. Safe to jump in with any of these 3 titles to start?

Start with San Andreas. It's still the best game and story overall in the series IMO. Starting with III or Vice City first might be a bit too outdated in terms of mechanics. Starting with IV or V might make the older games look too old.

San Andreas was where I finally started and I was quickly hooked. It's the perfect balance between realism, satire, gameplay and story.

[Zivouhr]

They're all great games but yes, San Andreas let you do the most in the world. And it was the largest game map too. Plus you can finally swim in that game.

[Batman90]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

On one hand, i understand what you mean, but they're remasters and not remakes, so for nostalgia it makes sense to have the "loading screens" as they used to look and appear, but make them like something that can be skipped with a button prompt like X etc. because they're running off the NVMe etc.

If there was a modern update to Vice City for GTA 6, that would be pretty damn sweet but the PS2 games definitely one of the fondest memories in the series for me. I just vibe with the 80s tunes and the story just had it down.

Yeah but since they using a different engine wouldn’t they be able to do something with the loading screens?

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by Batman90

Yeah but since they using a different engine wouldn’t they be able to do something with the loading screens?

Yes, if they wanted to like mentioned above that you have an option to simply turn off loading screens that would work but having them be there as an option is cool too. I thought they give the game a proper retro vibe and given they're remasters not remakes, having them is great for nostalgia for any of the original gamers.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

They're all great games but yes, San Andreas let you do the most in the world. And it was the largest game map too. Plus you can finally swim in that game.

I can't understand how someone can believe Vice City is actually a better game than San Andreas, objectively. I can understand if they subjectively prefer the flashy 80s Miami setting over the gritty 90s L.A. one, or say if they prefer the Vice City soundtrack over the San Andreas soundtrack. That's one thing.

But in terms of features or gameplay, Vice City isn't even close. Driving in that game isn't nowhere as good as in San Andreas. And the map is so small tight that you constantly bump into things. Especially when you're on a bike and you hit something that throws you into the water, where you instantly die since you can't even swim, let alone dive like you can in San Andreas.

I've heard someone try to rationalize Vice City being superior because San Andreas is "too big", or because it has "too many" features. Just weak arguments that don't make any sense.

I'm biased though, since San Andreas is my favorite game of all time, as witnessed by my wall of merchandise:

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

I can't understand how someone can believe Vice City is actually a better game than San Andreas, objectively. I can understand if they subjectively prefer the flashy 80s Miami setting over the gritty 90s L.A. one, or say if they prefer the Vice City soundtrack over the San Andreas soundtrack. That's one thing.

But in terms of features or gameplay, Vice City isn't even close. Driving in that game isn't nowhere as good as in San Andreas. And the map is so small tight that you constantly bump into things. Especially when you're on a bike and you hit something that throws you into the water, where you instantly die since you can't even swim, let alone dive like you can in San Andreas.

I've heard someone try to rationalize Vice City being superior because San Andreas is "too big", or because it has "too many" features. Just weak arguments that don't make any sense.

I'm biased though, since San Andreas is my favorite game of all time, as witnessed by my wall of merchandise:

That’s your answer right there. SA is your favourite VC is their favourite. There’s not really anything more to it than that. What makes a game someone’s favourite is all very much a personal thing. What means a lot to you in a game might be valued completely differently to someone else's personal experience with a game.

VC is my favourite not because of the gameplay but because of how perfectly it captured that romanticised version of 80’s era cocaine filed rags to riches story.

I certainly preferred SA improvements to the map and gameplay and was blown away by the scale of it. I appreciate its technical achievements and story but It couldn’t replace the love I have for VC even though it is a technically inferior game features wise.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

That’s your answer right there. SA is your favourite VC is their favourite. There’s not really anything more to it than that. What makes a game someone’s favourite is all very much a personal thing. What means a lot to you in a game might be valued completely differently to someone else's personal experience with a game.

VC is my favourite not because of the gameplay but because of how perfectly it captured that romanticised version of 80’s era cocaine filed rags to riches story.

I certainly preferred SA improvements to the map and gameplay and was blown away by the scale of it. I appreciate its technical achievements and story but It couldn’t replace the love I have for VC even though it is a technically inferior game features wise.

Exactly GTA 3 revolutionized everything when I started playing, plus SA missions were absurdly tedious even with the great map/ features etc. ... 3 I can only think of a handful of crappy missions where SA I could rattle off a list of 20+ lol

Basically its going to come down to each persons unique experience, why I said I wouldn't start with any of these games because story telling/graphics and gameplay have come so far in the open world space that these games are best left to those that have old experiences with them.

Its not like an FPS/3rd person shooter where you could revisit half life, metal gear, etc. even things like god of war 1/2 don't hold up as well to their counterparts 3/4.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

I can't understand how someone can believe Vice City is actually a better game than San Andreas, objectively. I can understand if they subjectively prefer the flashy 80s Miami setting over the gritty 90s L.A. one, or say if they prefer the Vice City soundtrack over the San Andreas soundtrack. That's one thing.

But in terms of features or gameplay, Vice City isn't even close. Driving in that game isn't nowhere as good as in San Andreas. And the map is so small tight that you constantly bump into things. Especially when you're on a bike and you hit something that throws you into the water, where you instantly die since you can't even swim, let alone dive like you can in San Andreas.

I've heard someone try to rationalize Vice City being superior because San Andreas is "too big", or because it has "too many" features. Just weak arguments that don't make any sense.

I'm biased though, since San Andreas is my favorite game of all time, as witnessed by my wall of merchandise:

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Cool tribute to GTASA.

An awesome, epic game, agreed. In terms of gameplay, definitely a favorite of the series. The PC upgrade version looks amazing, and I wish we could get something like that as an upgrade, in addition to a classic remaster.

Vice City is smaller and with less features, though I enjoyed the story and the mall concept and 80s style having grown up as a small kid during that time, along with the song tracks too. Plus they introduced the motorcycles which I thought was a good decision.

And GTA III, Liberty City has a good map with the three sections to travel to. The skyscraper metropolis area being my favorite of that game. The dodo bird wingless air plane was a really fun discovery.

I'd play these GTA games for probably 200 hours each or more sometimes.

GTAV is fun, I probably played it for that long too before moving on.

I revisit them each in short spurts over the years.

GTA4's control concerns were a problem IMO, despite the interesting city.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

On one hand, i understand what you mean, but they're remasters and not remakes, so for nostalgia it makes sense to have the "loading screens" as they used to look and appear, but make them like something that can be skipped with a button prompt like X etc. because they're running off the NVMe etc.

If there was a modern update to Vice City for GTA 6, that would be pretty damn sweet but the PS2 games definitely one of the fondest memories in the series for me. I just vibe with the 80s tunes and the story just had it down.

We're not talking loading screen before a mission. I was referring to the ones that would pop up wen you are driving on a bridge between islands. It was annoying and broke the immersion when in a high speed chase, it stops for a few seconds bc the next island had to load up. That doesnt need to be in this in any capacity as it doesnt enhance anything