Godzilla: Minus One (2023)

[starsteam]

New US poster with the full title logo and cast.

[Snikt]

Trailer looks pretty terrifying! Surprised Toho is rebooting again so soon; especially after Shin Godzilla

[fred25_Ca]

Originally Posted by Snikt

Trailer looks pretty terrifying! Surprised Toho is rebooting again so soon; especially after Shin Godzilla

Well, they kind of killed any momentum they might have had with Shin, it's been 7 years by now. At this point rebooting seems like the smart choice.

[starsteam]

Originally Posted by fred25_Ca

Well, they kind of killed any momentum they might have had with Shin, it's been 7 years by now. At this point rebooting seems like the smart choice.

Shin had quite a bit of momentum since the film's release in 2016. There was the Real 4D ride in 2017, the Evangelion crossover Real 4D ride in 2019, 2020 had the zip-line attraction that was based around Shin's design, and then we had the whole Shin Japan Heroes Universe collaboration over the last couple of years. Plus Shin was used as the primary Godzilla image for a few years.

There just never seemed to be any interest in doing another Shin Godzilla movie. The Shin Universe expanded from Godzilla with Ultraman and Kamen Rider, and it seemed Toho wanted to move on from it (as they already did with the Polygon trilogy and Singular Point and Godzilla the Ride).

Who knows - maybe in 10-15 years Anno will come back and make a sequel to Shin Godzilla. Meanwhile we would have gotten plenty of other Godzilla content in between.

And to be honest - I'm digging -1.0 way more than Shin Godzilla. They both feel similar but -1.0 has a extra cinematic look to it. Toho must have confidence in it to push a international release so soon.

[GhastlyGraham]

Originally Posted by starsteam

And to be honest - I'm digging -1.0 way more than Shin Godzilla. They both feel similar but -1.0 has a extra cinematic look to it. Toho must have confidence in it to push a international release so soon.

I'm on the opposite side, Shin Godzilla was a breath of fresh air and this just feels like a return to what we know beforehand. I hope I'm wrong, but I was honestly hoping for a weirder and more bizarre Shin Godzilla 2 before we returned to formula.

Then again, this looks leagues better than whatever the Monsterverse is supposed to be.

[stvn1974]

Is TOHO trying to pass Michael Myers as having the most timelines?

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

Uhhhh... is that Godzilla literally facing an atomic bomb? Are they implying that one of the bombs was to kill Godzilla in 1945? I wonder if that's why that woman asks if what she's seeing is Godzilla?

This one looks dramatically intense. Very visually good looking too. Love the Godzilla design for sure. And we see a burned Godzilla? We can see the layer below the skin.

They're going in the right direction.

So this is a more immediate post war Japan. Not in 1954. That's culturally a very different Japan than 1954, and some of those scenes show it off lightly so far. Fascinating.

LOL I hope you didn't just inadvertently spoil this. I will be bummed.
IMAX!!!!!!!!!!

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Is TOHO trying to pass Michael Myers as having the most timelines?

Already have.

[stvn1974]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Already have.

Sure, ruin my joke with your facts.

[starsteam]

Originally Posted by GhastlyGraham

I'm on the opposite side, Shin Godzilla was a breath of fresh air and this just feels like a return to what we know beforehand. I hope I'm wrong, but I was honestly hoping for a weirder and more bizarre Shin Godzilla 2 before we returned to formula.

Then again, this looks leagues better than whatever the Monsterverse is supposed to be.

I am indifferent to it - I don't mind seeing more new different takes on Godzilla (as long as they stay away from the mutant iguana angle) but I was also craving something more traditional - though the Monsterverse settled some of that craving.
But I guess I'm always expecting there to be more, so I'm not too bothered by what direction is next.

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Is TOHO trying to pass Michael Myers as having the most timelines?

Pretty sure they already have. Almost every movie in the Millennium series was a reboot;

Showa timeline (1954-1975 (canonly 1999))
Heisei timeline (1954, 1984-1995)
Godzilla 2000 (ambiguous timeline)
Godzilla x Megaguirus (1954, 2000)
GMK (1954, 2001)
Kiryu Saga (1954, 2002-2003)
Final Wars (ambiguous timeline)
Shin Godzilla (full reboot)
Polygon trilogy (full reboot)
SP (full reboot)
Minus One (full reboot)

Throw in the Tristar and Monsterverse full-reboots - that's 12 relaunches. All Monsters Attack is a detached entry.
Myers only had 3 and a detached entry (HIII) so far.

Edit: that's a good map MZ3K. Though no way is King Kong Escapes canon with King Kong vs Godzilla.

[Mr. Chaverria]

I would have thought King Kong Escapes was. But I've never seen it either. I feel like I just wouldn't like it. So I just safely stay away.

[starsteam]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

I would have thought King Kong Escapes was. But I've never seen it either. I feel like I just wouldn't like it. So I just safely stay away.

Showa continuity is loose and up to interpretation. I just never personally could accept both Toho Kong films being connected. Kong is treated as a myth at the beginning of Escapes. Would be some major denialism from the main characters about what Kong did to Tokyo and Godzilla in '62.

But there are always characters who shrug off the existence of monsters despite living in a world of monsters. Plus they sure can rebuild Tokyo fast. The creators never attended for there to be any connection when they made the films, it's just fun to piece together the world. Any officially licensed books that try to make a continuity are also the author's interpretation.

--

Going back on topic, Takashi Yamazaki made a statement about why he chose the post-war setting.

"I have always had the imagery that Godzilla is a nuclear threat, or the shadow of war in the form of a monster. So if I was allowed to it [his own Godzilla film], I wanted to do it in that era [post WWII].
Although there was also the idea of The Great East Japan Earthquake, but Shin Godzilla had been drawn from that too vividly, and so I wanted to do it in post-war to counter that."

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Already have.

Wait, GMK is in the 98 universe? WTF?

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Wait, GMK is in the 98 universe? WTF?

Due to the one-off line in the beginning about how American mistook a creature for "Godzilla".

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

Uhhhh... is that Godzilla literally facing an atomic bomb? Are they implying that one of the bombs was to kill Godzilla in 1945? I wonder if that's why that woman asks if what she's seeing is Godzilla?

This one looks dramatically intense. Very visually good looking too. Love the Godzilla design for sure. And we see a burned Godzilla? We can see the layer below the skin.

They're going in the right direction.

So this is a more immediate post war Japan. Not in 1954. That's culturally a very different Japan than 1954, and some of those scenes show it off lightly so far. Fascinating.

If you saw Oppenheimer you'd know that's exactly why he created the bomb It will be interesting how they portray the Japanese people and their culture at "Zero". If he is scarred because of the bomb that's why the injured man says he "will never forgive us". This Godzilla is by far the nastiest and most violent yet.

This is going to look ridiculously bonkers in IMAX.

[starsteam]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Wait, GMK is in the 98 universe? WTF?

It's a throwaway line towards the beginning of the film. Wasn't supposed to be taken seriously or anything. Kind of funny that whoever made that timeline map would bother to include it considering that it now suggests G'98 and its TV continuation are canon with the '54 film which is... pretty stupid.

[JoeKilledKenney2020]

Do you think Godzilla Minus One will have an R rating by the MPA or no?

[Janjira54]

Originally Posted by JoeKilledKenney2020

Do you think Godzilla Minus One will have an R rating by the MPA or no?

It has a G rating in Japan so I imagine it'll be PG-13 over here.

[starsteam]

New photo gallery (train is back on the menu)

https://www.scifijapan.com/godzilla-...rect-from-toho

[fred25_Ca]

It's crazy, I've seen so many people calling out Toho for giving us a design that's more like the Legendary one and I don't remotely see that. If anything, it looks a lot like a mix between the original Gojira one and the Heisei one. Looks pretty damn perfect to me, much better than Legendary's version (which I also like, mind you). The Heisei design is still my favorite design to this day (with G54 a close second), so this new one seems right to me. I love that he's eating a train again.

These new pictures are incredible, btw!