what the sales man told me about hdmi cables - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

Driver_King · 12-14-2008, 01:31 AM

There should never be a reason why anyone should ever defend Monster for selling what they sell at the prices they sell them. I've heard people say "people can choose to pay for them or they can choose not to." That arguement holds no water. First of all, the customer probably doesn't know any better. Second, the customer sees all the marketing BS and hears all the hype and sales pitches from people who push Monster Cables. Third, if you told the customer that they could get the same quality cable elsewhere outrageously cheaper, they'd listen and probably not even consider Monster Cable. It's not unlikely that Monster products don't go bad and their warantee is proabably a good piece of mind. True, until you realize, the $2 HDMI cable that you "decided" not to get also has a Lifetime Warantee too.

Then finally, you hear that your local putt-putt place is in financial troubles because they're being sued by Monster Cable for trademark infringement.

My work here is finished.

blu_world · 12-14-2008, 01:51 AM

just to let everyone know,the guy ended up chucking in the "cheaper" hdmi cable priced at 50 dollars,still a lot for something you could just end up finding cheaper as always else where,with the speaker cable 16ga...wire size is definably a enough,perfect size for the speaker knob's

always make sure when buy a full sound system,get them to chuck in free hdmi cables,speaker wire or you can say goodbye to them

SlmShdy1 · 12-14-2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu_world

always make sure when buy a full sound system,get them to chuck in free hdmi cables,speaker wire or you can say goodbye to them

Most places can't just "chuck" in free cables. That would be like you stealing them. If you want cheaper cables, buy them yourself or buy the cheapest ones the store has to offer if you don't feel like waiting.

blu_world · 12-14-2008, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

Most places can't just "chuck" in free cables. That would be like you stealing them. If you want cheaper cables, buy them yourself or buy the cheapest ones the store has to offer if you don't feel like waiting.

not what i heard,a lot of people Have to get free speaker cable and hdmi,it's only icing on the Cake.

you gotta wheel and deal yourself sometimes,some people are friends with the Store manager getting 30-20 percent off the MSRP.

its all about deals if u wanna stay in the retail game if u ask me!

MJ_KC · 12-14-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

480Hz is internal processing, has nothing to do with the HDMI signal.

Does the Blu-ray player ever output anything other than 60 Hz over the HDMI cable? Sometimes the input indication on my HDTV will show 24 Hz, so I was wondering if the 24 Hz rate is from the player after it has queried the HDTV as to what it is capable of handling.

There is so much digital processing going on in these systems that it can be a challenge to know what each piece of the system is doing. I wonder just how much communication is going on over the digital connections so that each piece of the system knows just what is OK to send to another component.

Canada · 12-14-2008, 06:32 AM

apparently ( I have no idea myself) all HDMI cables regardless of price will give you exactly the same video and audio quality.

The Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC) did tests and 20 or 30 dollar cables (or cheaper) and they performed as well as the $ 150 Monster ripoffs.

MJ_KC · 12-14-2008, 10:44 PM

I ran a search on Google and have a better understanding of the importance of 120 Hz refresh, but I don't see much point to the 240 Hz and 480 Hz refresh rates.

What type of video source is actually going to benefit from these new higher refresh rates?

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...t_1080p24/1015

Big Daddy · 12-14-2008, 11:27 PM

I hate you guys. I was just about to get a second loan on my house and buy a pair of 10 ft MIT Speaker Cables for a bargain price of $27,300. After reading this thread, I decided to wait.

I guess I will wait until next year and mortgage my wife and children so that I can afford 25 ft of Audio Quest speaker wires. I believe it is worthed. They will cost around $58,000, but won't give me as much grief.

AudioQuestWire.jpg

Please don't pick on Monster. They are actually one of the good guys compared to AudioQuest, MIT, KimberCable, Tara Labs, Nordost-Frey, etc.

Infrared Sight · 12-15-2008, 03:35 AM

Holy crap. Monster does indeed look like the cheap guys compared to them. Still, Monster is overpriced.

Opips2 · 12-15-2008, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I hate you guys. I was just about to get a second loan on my house and buy a pair of 10 ft MIT Speaker Cables for a bargain price of $27,300. After reading this thread, I decided to wait.

I guess I will wait until next year and mortgage my wife and children so that I can afford 25 ft of Audio Quest speaker wires. I believe it is worthed. They will cost around $58,000, but won't give me as much grief.

Attachment 4460

Please don't pick on Monster. They are actually one of the good guys compared to AudioQuest, MIT, KimberCable, Tara Labs, Nordost-Frey, etc.

Geez, holy $H!%

hollywood star actress or action can afford it!

Warjack Prime · 12-15-2008, 01:13 PM

It may not make a visible or audible difference, but some cables do have a better build quality than others. Some cables also look nicer. So for those who can afford it there's nothing wrong with feeling like you're getting the best you can with the cable that's built better.

For me, I've used the $30 HDMI cable sold at Target and an expensive Monster HDMI cable and I prefer the Monster cable because it makes me feel like I've got the best and I also love the look of them; however, I do realize that it probably doesn't make much of a difference. Shrug.

The only HDMI cable I've seen that is different is from Best Deal Cables because they have an interlocking tab that keeps the HDMI cable from coming loose. And before you neighsayers weigh in about how horrible that idea is, if you don't own them or haven't tried them then shut your mouth. They work great and are a step in the right direction.

Driver_King · 12-15-2008, 06:34 PM

Have you tried Monoprice 24 AWG cables before (HDMI)?!? They seem like they would break your equipment if you tugged on them a bit.

They also have nice connections. By the way, Monoprice sells mini-USB to USB cables for your PS3 controllers and PSP so you don't need to overpay. I believe I paid less than $5 shipped for two 10 footers.

They practically snap into place when you connect them. Fine cables for an awesome price.

ScarredLungs · 12-15-2008, 06:44 PM

What i gather from the thread above is that pretty much any hdmi cable will do? I don't need to spend an arm and a leg to get a cable. I just need to get another HDMI cable to hook up my HD reciever from comcast to my tv.

Driver_King · 12-15-2008, 07:29 PM

Go here.

Mr. J · 12-16-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver_King

Go here.

I bought 2 of those today!

12-14-2008, 01:51 AM	#82
blu_world Special Member Member since:Nov 2006 Home Theater Gallery:27 Blu-ray reviews:1	just to let everyone know,the guy ended up chucking in the "cheaper" hdmi cable priced at 50 dollars,still a lot for something you could just end up finding cheaper as always else where,with the speaker cable 16ga...wire size is definably a enough,perfect size for the speaker knob's always make sure when buy a full sound system,get them to chuck in free hdmi cables,speaker wire or you can say goodbye to them Last edited by blu_world; 12-14-2008 at 01:54 AM.

12-14-2008, 11:27 PM	#88
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	I hate you guys. I was just about to get a second loan on my house and buy a pair of 10 ft MIT Speaker Cables for a bargain price of $27,300. After reading this thread, I decided to wait. I guess I will wait until next year and mortgage my wife and children so that I can afford 25 ft of Audio Quest speaker wires. I believe it is worthed. They will cost around $58,000, but won't give me as much grief. AudioQuestWire.jpg Please don't pick on Monster. They are actually one of the good guys compared to AudioQuest, MIT, KimberCable, Tara Labs, Nordost-Frey, etc. Last edited by Big Daddy; 12-14-2008 at 11:41 PM.

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12-14-2008, 01:31 AM	#81
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	There should never be a reason why anyone should ever defend Monster for selling what they sell at the prices they sell them. I've heard people say "people can choose to pay for them or they can choose not to." That arguement holds no water. First of all, the customer probably doesn't know any better. Second, the customer sees all the marketing BS and hears all the hype and sales pitches from people who push Monster Cables. Third, if you told the customer that they could get the same quality cable elsewhere outrageously cheaper, they'd listen and probably not even consider Monster Cable. It's not unlikely that Monster products don't go bad and their warantee is proabably a good piece of mind. True, until you realize, the $2 HDMI cable that you "decided" not to get also has a Lifetime Warantee too. Then finally, you hear that your local putt-putt place is in financial troubles because they're being sued by Monster Cable for trademark infringement. My work here is finished.

12-14-2008, 06:32 AM	#86
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	apparently ( I have no idea myself) all HDMI cables regardless of price will give you exactly the same video and audio quality. The Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC) did tests and 20 or 30 dollar cables (or cheaper) and they performed as well as the $ 150 Monster ripoffs.

12-14-2008, 10:44 PM	#87
MJ_KC Junior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:14	I ran a search on Google and have a better understanding of the importance of 120 Hz refresh, but I don't see much point to the 240 Hz and 480 Hz refresh rates. What type of video source is actually going to benefit from these new higher refresh rates? http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...t_1080p24/1015

12-15-2008, 03:35 AM	#89
Infrared Sight Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Southern Utah Home Theater Gallery:65 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:630 Trading Score:38	Holy crap. Monster does indeed look like the cheap guys compared to them. Still, Monster is overpriced.

12-15-2008, 01:13 PM	#91
Warjack Prime Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:*Omaha, NE USA PSN Network: WarjackPrime Blu-ray collection:172 Trading Score:2	It may not make a visible or audible difference, but some cables do have a better build quality than others. Some cables also look nicer. So for those who can afford it there's nothing wrong with feeling like you're getting the best you can with the cable that's built better. For me, I've used the $30 HDMI cable sold at Target and an expensive Monster HDMI cable and I prefer the Monster cable because it makes me feel like I've got the best and I also love the look of them; however, I do realize that it probably doesn't make much of a difference. Shrug. The only HDMI cable I've seen that is different is from Best Deal Cables because they have an interlocking tab that keeps the HDMI cable from coming loose. And before you neighsayers weigh in about how horrible that idea is, if you don't own them or haven't tried them then shut your mouth. They work great and are a step in the right direction.

12-15-2008, 06:34 PM	#92
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	Have you tried Monoprice 24 AWG cables before (HDMI)?!? They seem like they would break your equipment if you tugged on them a bit. They also have nice connections. By the way, Monoprice sells mini-USB to USB cables for your PS3 controllers and PSP so you don't need to overpay. I believe I paid less than $5 shipped for two 10 footers. They practically snap into place when you connect them. Fine cables for an awesome price.

12-15-2008, 06:44 PM	#93
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	What i gather from the thread above is that pretty much any hdmi cable will do? I don't need to spend an arm and a leg to get a cable. I just need to get another HDMI cable to hook up my HD reciever from comcast to my tv.

12-15-2008, 07:29 PM	#94
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	Go here.

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