SACD/DVD-A dead

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Universal was not a huge supporter of SACD, but released lots of titles I would consider essential on SACD, depending on your taste. For example, the entire output of the Police and all Elton John's early stuff is available on SACD from Universal. Some of the greatest jazz albums are as well, including Coltrane's A Love Supreme, the Getz/Gilberto and Louis Armstrong/Ella Fitzgerald.

Rock staple SACDs from Universal include Eat a Peach and Live at the Fillmore by the Allman Brothers, Derek and the Dominos--Layla, etc.

Although I can't find the specific manner described online, I believe it is correct to say that Sony subsidized the Universal SACD catalog in a major way. I have a number of Universal SACD releases and I think an excellent job was done. I love the format and I love Blu-ray, I just wish both could find a market. My classical music collection includes about 2 dozen SACD's but I listen so rarely, that wasn't a wise purchase decision for me. Universal Music released titles on DVD-A and SACD, I sure wish Universal Studios would release on Blu-ray in addtion to HD DVD.

Chris

[frenchglen]

Originally Posted by THE STUD

no way is it 80 minutes. This is the expanded scores, the entire thing per film The run time is 180 minutes!!!!!! these releases are the longest scores I've ever seen or had. They are simply amazing

What? [Again] I didn't read the details properly! I thought it was the whole Trilogy. 100+ extra mins of Howard Shore's Fellowship soundtrack? I can't believe it. My mouth is watering.

Ok I'm definitely not waiting for full 96/24 versions to come out, this is absolutely worth $60 of my hard-earnt money. Woohoo! Can't wait for November either

[dvda-sacd]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

My classical music collection includes about 2 dozen SACD's but I listen so rarely, that wasn't a wise purchase decision for me.

How much do you want for your classical SACD collection?

[THE STUD]

if SACD wants to go on living, they might wanna think about something besides classical and jazz. Those are like the two smallest genres as far as listeners go. classical is simply old, and redone 50 times. get something new, get the hits if you wanna survive SACD. where's the big jazz, like Michael Buble? he's the only major jazz guy out there, the rest are just small time.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

My classical music collection includes about 2 dozen SACD's but I listen so rarely, that wasn't a wise purchase decision for me.

I'd like to see what you've got if you really want to part ways with some stuff.

Maybe use our FS/FT forum area?

[dvda-sacd]

THE STUD, SACD will never be a product for the masses, but that doesn't mean it's dead for me.

Cheers!

[GoldenRedux]

Originally Posted by THE STUD

SACD is nearly dead I believe, and here's some proof

"On the negative side Universal and Naxos have ceased production of new SACDs altogether while some companies such as Chandos and Sony/BMG have shown a continuing luke-warm commitment to the format.

On the positive side the small companies like PentaTone, Talent, Channel Classics, Capriccio, CPO and 2L have enriched the catalogue immeasurably with a stream of beautifully recorded SACDs of interesting and, often unusual, repertoire. We have also had plenty of releases from orchestras own labels - LSO Live, RCO live, the continuing SFS Mahler cycle and The Philadelphia Orchestra via Ondine etc."

so universal has dropped SACD and Naxos, sony is just kind of there, not knowing whether to leave or stay, and I predict they'll leave in short while unless something miraculous happens.

Where did you find that quote? Is it recent? Do you have a link? Deutsche Grammophon just recently released a SACD, and that is a Universal label.

[GoldenRedux]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

Although I can't find the specific manner described online, I believe it is correct to say that Sony subsidized the Universal SACD catalog in a major way. I have a number of Universal SACD releases and I think an excellent job was done. I love the format and I love Blu-ray, I just wish both could find a market. My classical music collection includes about 2 dozen SACD's but I listen so rarely, that wasn't a wise purchase decision for me. Universal Music released titles on DVD-A and SACD, I sure wish Universal Studios would release on Blu-ray in addtion to HD DVD.

Chris

I'm not sure this has much to do with the any point you were trying to make, but I would just point out that Universal Music Group and Universal Studios are actually two different companies. Universal Music Group is owned by Vivendi. They have already released at least one title on both Blu-ray and HD DVD - Nine Inch Nails Live: Beside You in Time

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by THE STUD

no way is it 80 minutes. This is the expanded scores, the entire thing per film The run time is 180 minutes!!!!!! these releases are the longest scores I've ever seen or had. They are simply amazing

Originally Posted by frenchglen

What? [Again] I didn't read the details properly!

I thought it was the whole Trilogy. 100+ extra mins of Howard Shore's Fellowship soundtrack? I can't believe it. My mouth is watering.

Ok I'm definitely not waiting for full 96/24 versions to come out, this is absolutely worth $60 of my hard-earnt money. Woohoo! Can't wait for November either

I'm not sure if in all the excitement you saw or not this part of my post:

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

The second movie soundtrack is also on DVD-A

So just in case:

Two Towers DVD-A

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

I'm not sure if in all the excitement you saw or not this part of my post:



So just in case:

Two Towers DVD-A

^^ I really wish these hadn't had a YEAR between their releases. I really want ROTK now!

[Ashplisken]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I don't like the Grateful Dead, yet I would never say "I can't stand Jerry Garcia or his band" because it's pretty ignorant. What is it they did that makes you not be able to stand them? Is it their constant support of over 60 charities across the world through Bama Rags?

When I heard Bruce Hornsby doing Jack Straw and Jane's Addiction doing Ripple I realised that I like the Grateful Dead's songwriting, I just don't like how they play it.

Personal opinions only come about through personal interaction. What is it you don't like about "his band" (which it isn't, it's just the name of the band)?
Is it the fact that the majority of the band are black? Is it the fact that their drummer is too polyrythmic for you and you prefer mostly 4/4 rock? Is it the jazz and blues influences you don't like? The African groove?

To make blanket statements is rather uninsightful and doesn't lend anything to any conversation.

I know this is an old post, but I haven't been on here in a couple days. I think this is meant to be a bit of a pointed post insulting the fact that I "can't stand" a band that you happen to enjoy. I see what you mean that it didn't lend anything to the conversation, but what I was trying to lend to the conversation is that we shouldn't be sitting here arguing about people's opinions on music. Everyone is entitled to like and dislike whatever music they want, which is part of what makes the world go round. I'm not sure why you took such offense to these series of comments on DMB, but relax, man. About 50% of all the music I listen to most people say they "can't stand"... I don't get offended, it's for some people, it isn't for others.

Now, as for what you said: I didn't know they donated to charities, good for them. I don't care about the black members of the band (as it seems you are trying to imply I am racist for my dislike of the band). And no, the drummer isn't too "polyrhythic" for me as a lot of the music I listen to abuses time signatures way worse than this band does. I don't care about the "african groove" or whatever you tried to call it... I find this label rather funny since there really aren't too many bands coming from africa for you to go ahead and refer to something as an "african groove" since there is no real music from africa to establish this with, but whatever. What I can't stand about the band is their music. That's it. I hate the music, I can't listen to it. I find it boring. On top of that, I really don't care for the lyrical content, but that is never the deciding factor for me. All in all, I don't like them. I'm sorry if this bothers you. I have a rather wide variety of music I listen to, such as hard rock, classic rock, almost every subgenre of metal, some hardcore, some post/prog hard rock, progressive music, punk, some jazz (mostly instrumental), most types of "classical" music (i'm not huge on opera, but I like most of the overtures), funk fusion, and a whole host of bands I wouldn't even be able to fit into a particular genre.

I'm sorry I don't like your band and I can't stand their music, but I don't know why this makes me ignorant, persay.

[THE STUD]

Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

Where did you find that quote? Is it recent? Do you have a link? Deutsche Grammophon just recently released a SACD, and that is a Universal label.

here's a link dude, it's from sacd.net itself
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/18326//y?page=first

[THE STUD]

Originally Posted by JTK

^^ I really wish these hadn't had a YEAR between their releases. I really want ROTK now!

tell me about it, it drives me nuts to wait an entire year. I doubt it'll ever come out on any other format like somebody else said. This is probably a one time kinda deal so get them while their still being made.

[frenchglen]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

I'm not sure if in all the excitement you saw or not this part of my post:



So just in case:

Two Towers DVD-A

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?? [for the third time]

Just Kidding yeah I know, I meant it's worth 60 bucks for each film. You're right, I didn't quite express myself clearly enough.

Originally Posted by THE STUD

tell me about it, it drives me nuts to wait an entire year. I doubt it'll ever come out on any other format like somebody else said. This is probably a one time kinda deal so get them while their still being made.

I hope that eventually, and I mean eventually, when stuff does come in downloads, it will be released in 96/24. Cause for the record company there'll be no hassle/cost of manufacturing more discs for a new version, it's just distributing the new file.

[Deciazulado]

Oh and apart from the DVD-A disc thing, the package is gorgeous. Well worth it.

[THE STUD]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Oh and apart from the DVD-A disc thing, the package is gorgeous. Well worth it.

very true, it's got a very nice case, with a seperate case inside for the cd's, and then a booklet on each song and it's theme/background

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by THE STUD

WELL GUYS I tell you I love the format sounds, SACD-DVD-A, it's just that there's not enough stuff on them for soundtracks. I mean there's maybe like half a dozen soundtracks on SACD worth talking about, and DVD-A only has the LOTR scores which I have and are awesome. I mean ther's no big score on SACD, except Titanic which I don't like. Where's batman begine, gladiator, star wars, star trek(besides Nemesis), James horner's best, Jerry goldsmith's best, John William's best,
LIke I said, there's not enough choices for me to want them stilll AS far as I see, there hasn't been any new releases on soundtracks. Maybe zorro 2, but that's not worth buying

Jerry Goldsmiths best

[adrianf74]

It's sad really. I was an early adopter of SACD in Canada as it was a much better format from a technical standpoint. I ended up replacing my old Pioneer DVD player with an Oppo 971H which only does DVD-Audio close to a year and a half ago. So, I sold all of my SACD titles and bought the majority on DVD-Audio. At the time, there was a big push on DualDisc which seemed to be a way of keeping Advanced Resolution audio titles afloat.

Fast forward to now: nothing being released, really. Warner in North America continues to release DVD-Video titles with DTS soundtracks (Genesis, Depeche Mode, and REM to name a few). Other labels have adopted MVI (whatever that might be).

I recently bought a Blu-Ray player and am having a hard time justifying my old SD titles as well as my DVD-Audio collection (I just put them up on an auction site a week or so ago). It's sad, really, but since my Blu-Ray player will not play DVD-A titles, I find it hard to justify keeping my Oppo 971H just for DVD-A titles.

I know I can import all of the SACD versions from Europe but this gets VERY expensive over time. It seems the labels just let the two formats fall by the wayside.

As some people have mentioned about their big box stores eliminating the section - the stores I frequent in Toronto have just put whatever remaining DVD-A/SACD titles in amongs the regular DVDs. It's sad, really. It's VERY sad. What were two fantastic formats have been, in North America anyhow, put to rest by the labels.

My $0.02.

[dannyjl]

Adrian, I hear you. I just recently got into the SACD scene with the release of the 2 Genesis box sets. I've been using an Oppo 970 HD, which I just realized a few minutes ago, also plays dvd-audio. So, I was checking out some disks (used) at Amazon - mainly Sting and Steely Dan. Last night I finally purchased a PS3 for BD and SACD use. I've moved the Oppo to my music room (only stereo but better speakers) and quietly wait for more new relaeses. Seems like Sony is dumping SACD after a year and it'll be very sad unless they start to push some kind of bd music cd.

Do you have a link to your collection that's up for sale? I may be interested in some. Sorry you're not sticking with these fine sounding disks.