Planet Earth blu ray disc video quality issues....

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Ok so then why did you post what you did two posts back?

Originally Posted by DrinkMore
You all might want to read the back of your PE package.

The first line under the Dolby Digital, BBC logos.

Might explain some of the problems. Just a guess tho.

Might help

[morbo]

Could *that* be the common denominator? The 60gb PS3 with 1.70 system sw. Thats the platform I have. I has the pulsing issue in the air and underwater outputting to a 71" samsung DLP @1080p.

Has any *non* Sony Bluray player exhibited this issue?

[jeremy_williams]

Originally Posted by morbo

Could *that* be the common denominator? The 60gb PS3 with 1.70 system sw. Thats the platform I have. I has the pulsing issue in the air and underwater outputting to a 71" samsung DLP @1080p.

Has any *non* Sony Bluray player exhibited this issue?

I highly doubt the firmware on the PS3 has anything to do with the video quality of something.

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by morbo

Could *that* be the common denominator? The 60gb PS3 with 1.70 system sw. Thats the platform I have. I has the pulsing issue in the air and underwater outputting to a 71" samsung DLP @1080p.

Has any *non* Sony Bluray player exhibited this issue?

It does it on my sammy bdp1000 and another member here has the same issue on his bdp-s1

[morbo]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

It does it on my sammy bdp1000 and another member here has the same issue on his bdp-s1

Thanks. It was just a thought. So we can rule out the decoders. That leaves batches of source material that have the issue. For whatever reason, some people here don't see it. Someone should take a bad copy over to a persons setup that has a good no issues setup and compare.

[mistersh0w]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Amazing, the same scenes on my friends DVR'd DiscoveryHD broadcasts show no Pulsing white noise...

Are you sure of this? If that's true, then our legs are being pulled here... We need 2 things here, 1. to find out FOR SURE the broadcast version DOES NOT have the "pulsing white noise", and 2. To find out if the HDDVD version does the same...

Warner aint gonna get away with screwing us with a half-assed $100 release that easily...

[bluflu]

I see it too, but consider it a minor nuisance in comparison to some of the posterization that occurs.

[mistersh0w]

Ok so, obviously this set has many problems. Are there enough of us to complain and have the authoring house re-encode the set with a more acceptable encoding process? I know that, in a slightly unrelated case, Universal (BOO!) made replacement Back to the Future Trilogy dvd sets for those who owned the faulty set, free of charge! The reason for the replacement option was because of incorrect framing issues. If a major studio can make available new versions of a box set based on generally unnoticeable framing issues, then we may have a chance of having warner re-encode our messed up planet earth sets!

[bluflu]

Originally Posted by mistersh0w

Ok so, obviously this set has many problems. Are there enough of us to complain and have the authoring house re-encode the set with a more acceptable encoding process? I know that, in a slightly unrelated case, Universal (BOO!) made replacement Back to the Future Trilogy dvd sets for those who owned the faulty set, free of charge! The reason for the replacement option was because of incorrect framing issues. If a major studio can make available new versions of a box set based on generally unnoticeable framing issues, then we may have a chance of having warner re-encode our messed up planet earth sets!

I'm not complaining. I think the problem is the BBC should have gotten Sony or Disney to do the encoding.

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by mistersh0w

Are you sure of this? If that's true, then our legs are being pulled here... We need 2 things here, 1. to find out FOR SURE the broadcast version DOES NOT have the "pulsing white noise", and 2. To find out if the HDDVD version does the same...

Warner aint gonna get away with screwing us with a half-assed $100 release that easily...

I repeat, my friends DiscoveryHD dvdr'd copy does not do the pulsing.
The HDDVD does do the pulsing, as many have reported it on AVMS.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by morbo

Thanks. It was just a thought. So we can rule out the decoders. That leaves batches of source material that have the issue. For whatever reason, some people here don't see it. Someone should take a bad copy over to a persons setup that has a good no issues setup and compare.

There's no batches of discs that are different. It's the encode. Some people see it some don't depending on their set up. Just like people that find Casino Royale shockfull of digital noise, there will be people that don't see this


For example I see it but on my set up it doesn't bother me much (well not as much as fuzzy transfers do)

[mistersh0w]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

There's no batches of discs that are different. It's the encode. Some people see it some don't depending on their set up. Just like people that find Casino Royale shockfull of digital noise, there will be people that don't see this


For example I see it but on my set up it doesn't bother me much (well not as much as fuzzy transfers do)

What could I do to my set up that would lessen the problems?

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by mistersh0w

What could I do to my set up that would lessen the problems?

Well making sure the set is not exaggerating sharpness (boosting noise) but sharpness is set flat, and that calibration levels are correct (black levels dark enough, instead of showing more detail in the shadows than it should, and white levels (highlight contrast) are not pushed) and having a display that does pixels 1:1 instead of remapping/resizing/interpolating them might give a more seamless image with less distortion ("noise" is non-signal distortion, so adding more "distortions" can increase apparent noise). Any signal processing "enhancements" could increase this.

For the banding, calibrated levels might help too (but since banding is kind of decimation of levels (less levels than needed for visually smooth transitions) anything that further processes levels in 8bit electronics might give rounding errors ending with even less levels displayed on screen, so a display/signal chain ensuring high bit-depth may give better results (or actually, prevent making things getting worse than they are in the signal) (there might be cases that the analog output into a CRT (infinite voltage variations) might give less banding that a digital 8bit levels signal chain (256 levels into 8bit electronic adjustments into an 8bit panel controller) but that's a hardware issue trying to ameliorate a software issue

[aaronwt]

No problem with my HD DVD or the BD that I rented from Netflix. I'm using a PS3 and HD-XA2, both running at 1080P into a DVDO VP50. The VP50 outputs 1080i into my 1080P Samsung DLP(only takes 1080i over HDMI, only VGA does 1080P input)

[mistersh0w]

Ok, i'm sending a new email to BBC... If more people are saying the issue is not visible on the broadcast version, and is clearly an encode problem, I refuse to just sit back and let it slide... here's what i've sent:


Well, it seems the information recieved on this issue is possibly too good to be true. Upon doing some more research, with the help of alot of frustrated blu-ray set owners, i've discovered that several people have reported the image problems described by the authoring house as "radio interference" is not visible on the broadcast of the "Freshwater" episode. If this is the case, there could be 2 reasons why it's on the blu-ray release: 1. the issue DOES exist on the broadcast but is intensified with the transfer to blu-ray. or 2. The problem is due to faulty encode settings. Now if these reasons are true, I don't see the reason why more time was spent on ensuring the image was as flawless as possible by testing other options for the High Definition encode. Many more consumers are purchasing the set, and discovering these image problems on a daily basis. As you can see by doing a simple google search, or by searching the AVS forums, and other blu-ray message boards, this is quickly becoming a larger issue. There are also users who have discovered differen't image problems, all seeming to deal with the conversion, and encode process more than with the nature of the shoot, and with the equipment the film crew used. These issues, for the most part, would be overlooked if it weren't for the fact that High Definition is a new technology, that for the most part has yet to catch on with most consumers. I for one love the blu-ray technology, and support it fully in every way. But with the amount of problems people have been discovering with this particular release day to day is simply unnaceptable, especially with the retail price being upwards to $100. I hope that in the continuation of calling attention to these image issues, we can get to the bottom of this ongoing problem as quickly as possible.

Thank you.

[chelsel]

I can concur that the broadcast version looks much better in comparison to the Blu-Ray version... make sure to voice your opinion (and negative rating) in Amazon reviews... sending a message where it hurts, the wallet is very effective with companies.

[VenomXR8]

I also noticed white horizontal lines flickering throughout episode 3 on disc 1. Its very distracting and to me makes planet earth unwatchable. The worst part is that I am now noticing the problem on other blu ray movies i own such as Open Season which never had this problem before.Can one disc affect the other???

[Sapper12B]

I to have the same "flickering" problem as described in the above posts. I will be taking my copy back also, hopefully it'll just be this copy, but from reading these posts my chances seem thin. thanx for the post all!

[bluflu]

I just purchased 10 copies for comparison testing.

[mistersh0w]

Just to clarify, ALL copies of Planet Earth have this problem. Even the HDDUD version... Lots of peeps at AVS have spoken up as well... This is a big problem folks. If you wish for something to be done about this, please email BBC America. The more of us that email them, the better our chances of getting them to replace this crappy set.