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Old 05-08-2009, 04:21 AM   #81
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thanks big daddy. we now know which def tech speakers you own and that they were the top of line def techs from three different posts.

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for anyone drawn to the more conventional directional speaker, def tech's mythos line is splendid as well. paired with a supercube or two and you'll have a terrific sounding setup. the bipolar def techs are grand as well, but keep in mind that all of the models with built-in subs really ought to be paired with an additional, separate sub for optimal performance.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:45 PM   #82
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thanks big daddy. we now know which def tech speakers you own and that they were the top of line def techs from three different posts.

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for anyone drawn to the more conventional directional speaker, def tech's mythos line is splendid as well. paired with a supercube or two and you'll have a terrific sounding setup. the bipolar def techs are grand as well, but keep in mind that all of the models with built-in subs really ought to be paired with an additional, separate sub for optimal performance.
For sure. That's something I have learned (thanks in large part to BD's posts and this place). I was originally thinking that they'd replace a sub, and that's not their strong suit. They're created to produce a nice full-range speaker or a sub setup, but they sound best in my opinion when they're set up as a full-range speaker. One day I'll upgrade to a pair of the supertowers.

The Mythos line are really nice as well and in my opinion have really nice WAF thanks to their slim and slick design. If I hadn't really enjoyed the bipolar sound I would've looked at them a lot more.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:01 PM   #83
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For sure. That's something I have learned (thanks in large part to BD's posts and this place). I was originally thinking that they'd replace a sub, and that's not their strong suit. They're created to produce a nice full-range speaker or a sub setup, but they sound best in my opinion when they're set up as a full-range speaker. One day I'll upgrade to a pair of the supertowers.

The Mythos line are really nice as well and in my opinion have really nice WAF thanks to their slim and slick design. If I hadn't really enjoyed the bipolar sound I would've looked at them a lot more.
i hate you, i should have NEVER read this thread
now im going to best buy this weekend to sample the def techs
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:27 PM   #84
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i guess i didn't sell the sarcasm well enough.

oh well.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:29 PM   #85
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i guess i didn't sell the sarcasm well enough.

oh well.
No, I got it- I just ignored it and focussed instead on the second part of your post.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:38 PM   #86
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Ah, very good.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:26 PM   #87
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If anyone lives near the NJ/NY area, 6th Ave Electronics sells a PAIR of BP6s for $297. For both. The only thing is you have to go to the store to get them, so they will try to sell you cables to make some money.
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Old 05-10-2009, 02:58 PM   #88
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If anyone lives near the NJ/NY area, 6th Ave Electronics sells a PAIR of BP6s for $297. For both. The only thing is you have to go to the store to get them, so they will try to sell you cables to make some money.
Seriously- that's a tremendous deal. I thought I did well paying $500 for the pair here locally. Everywhere else they're $600 and up.

Last night I experimented with removing the toe-in that I'm just automatically used to giving to speakers, and it really seemed to open up my soundstage. I was surprised, since I am already used to these speakers really filling the room well. There was one seating spot that I was never quite happy with, and a simple squaring up of the speakers has made a big difference to me.
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:26 PM   #89
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Some speakers are designed to have no toe-in or just sound better without a toe-in like your Bi-polar speakers, which are intended to spread the sound around the room. The SDA effect on my Polk's will not work if they are toed-in. Some speakers even sound better with a toe-out.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:13 PM   #90
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Some speakers are designed to have no toe-in or just sound better without a toe-in like your Bi-polar speakers, which are intended to spread the sound around the room. The SDA effect on my Polk's will not work if they are toed-in. Some speakers even sound better with a toe-out.
Yeah I'm learning that's the case. I just assumed that the reflections would "spread out more" with some toe-in. My buddy who has some BP8's as rears says he uses some toe-in but they're much further spread out than mine are, so I can see it.

End result- just make sure you experiment and don't accept what worked for an old setup will for the new!
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:26 AM   #91
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I'm looking at picking up some 450's and was wondering the best combo for them? Would 7 of them be best? or say pair of them for front l/r, clr series center, pair 450's for rear surrounds, pair of bipolars for side surrounds?
I'm leaning towards going with 7 450's as they would match all the way around.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:48 AM   #92
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I would only use it as a center if you're going to keep it vertical- I wouldn't lay it flat. I honeslty haven't listened to these personally. If you like the sound, I say go for it, but I'm kind of surprised that you're not sticking with either the BP series or the Mythos- those are kind of the big two lines.

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the DT brand, so again if you like the sound go for it. Be aware though that Def Tech exaggerates their specs on the low end- I think they use their overall frequency response range as their reference point instead of the "industry standard" +/-3db. That's not a bad thing overall- they're still excellent speakers. They have a recommended crossover point on the website of 50hz, which is a little more realistic. I'm guessing you may want them at 80hz, however.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:14 PM   #93
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I would only use it as a center if you're going to keep it vertical- I wouldn't lay it flat. I honeslty haven't listened to these personally. If you like the sound, I say go for it, but I'm kind of surprised that you're not sticking with either the BP series or the Mythos- those are kind of the big two lines.

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the DT brand, so again if you like the sound go for it. Be aware though that Def Tech exaggerates their specs on the low end- I think they use their overall frequency response range as their reference point instead of the "industry standard" +/-3db. That's not a bad thing overall- they're still excellent speakers. They have a recommended crossover point on the website of 50hz, which is a little more realistic. I'm guessing you may want them at 80hz, however.
I agree that the low end specs are liberal. My BP 30's are rated at 18 Hz-30 kHz. My BP 8B's supposedly go 22 Hz-30 kHz.
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If you're around North Lima, OH The Speaker Shop has 20% off all Def Tech products. Got a 'Cube III for around $595 after taxes.
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Anyone in or around San Antonio wonna buy my BP8B's for only $350?Im trying to upgrade my fronts
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Ugh there's a guy I know that's selling his 7004's for $800 for the PAIR. Considering they're about that much EACH, that's a serious steal. They're 6 months old and are apparently in fantastic shape. He's selling the matching center for $275 as well.

... I don't have the money, but that's a hell of a deal. I'm killing myself trying to decide if I want to stretch the budget or not.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:42 PM   #97
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Ugh there's a guy I know that's selling his 7004's for $800 for the PAIR. Considering they're about that much EACH, that's a serious steal. They're 6 months old and are apparently in fantastic shape. He's selling the matching center for $275 as well.

... I don't have the money, but that's a hell of a deal. I'm killing myself trying to decide if I want to stretch the budget or not.
Damn thats a good deal,I was thinking about getting the 7004's or 7002's but im pretty happy with my BP10b's
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:02 PM   #98
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I just got some BP7006's w/ the built in sub, and The C/L/R 2300 center. I'm running a Pio SC-05. What Deft Tech surround rears would sound the best with my system?? Deft Tech BP1.2X's or BP2X'S?? or would you reccomend a different speaker??? when you moved up to the BPX's do you get bass?? I heard that surrounds with built in bass would be great.

Speaking of bass what Sub would you reccommed??
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I have had nothing but plesant experiences with Definitive speakers (I still use them in my surrounds - Audio Connection in Virginia sold them -they also had the Snells in the same room )! The BP's really don't need a sub - those are great speakers and there would be no shame in your game with those
I actually used to work at Audio Connection. I still get all my stuff there.

Anyways, I have all definitive speakers. BP8s C1 and BP2X and a 12 powered sub I cant remember the model # of. My dad had a Bose set up he thought was the greatest thing in the world. His stuff died so we hooked up my stuff to his stereo. When i moved out and got my apt, we went to Audio Connection so he could buy a full deftech set up.
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I just got some BP7006's w/ the built in sub, and The C/L/R 2300 center. I'm running a Pio SC-05. What Deft Tech surround rears would sound the best with my system?? Deft Tech BP1.2X's or BP2X'S?? or would you reccomend a different speaker??? when you moved up to the BPX's do you get bass?? I heard that surrounds with built in bass would be great.

Speaking of bass what Sub would you reccommed??
I have the same system with BP2Xs and a supercube 111 and it sounds great.Gonna upgrade my system this week.
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