Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[batman144144]

Originally Posted by MR THX

Nahh, 4 & 5 are Not Great Movies, Lets be honest. Easy pass.

H4 has always been one of my faves after the first two.

[batman144144]

Dave McRae gives his initial thoughts after viewing Halloween Kills:

https://youtu.be/ecpGWdfSV7M

[plissken99]

Just did some AB comparisons to the Lionsgate disc.. truly is no contest, Shout proves superior across the board. Much better/saturation, while still not a colorful film, it looks far less manipulated. Also Shout is MUCH better in motion shots, which are key to most of the film. The opening sequence draws me in like never before! And the TrueHD track is miles better than the 5.1 and mono tracks, least tinny dialogue and best atmosphere.

Only complaint is contrast appears a bit blown out in a couple of daylight shots compared to the Lionsgate disc. Most noteably the early shot of Tommy and Laurie walking and talking. Now to watch the damn movie.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by tcripe

I own the LG version and really wanna see some comparisons with the Shout version to see if it’s worth the double dip or not.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=16566&d2=16391&c=6126

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

and true 23.976 FPS over SHOUT/SCREAMS 24 Locked fps on their Halloween 1

I hope you're not saying that 23.976 fps is better than 24 fps.

Most standard motion picture film is 24 fps.

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

How did you mess up this sign SCREAM?


On further thought. This is why you don't make the SKY overly BLUE like I pointed out earlier 500 pages back in this thread when you see the NORMALLY WHITE highways signs BLUE that says HADDONFIELD you have to question it.

If you mix in more BLUE than was originally there like SCREAM did you get Blue HIGHWAY signs, HADDONFIELD SIGN, and then with a YELLOW RAILROAD crossing sign it becomes GREENISH because you elevated the BLUES and the sign is near GREEN TREE LEAVES. WHOOPSIE! Enjoy.

Like I said 500 pages back is photographing outdoors with daylight film balanced at 6500K, with the light actually having a higher color temperature will cause the image to have a bluish tint to it.

Typical summer light sun & sky is 6500K. Average summer shade is 8000K.
Skylight (blue sky) is 12,000 to 20,000K. That image mostly shows skylight which is much higher than what the 6500K white point the film is balanced for therefore making white blueish and effecting all the other colors towards blue.

Our brain adjusts for that, film cannot.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by thebarnman

I hope you're not saying that 23.976 fps is better than 24 fps.

Most standard motion picture film is 24 fps.

Most TVs have a refresh rate of 59.94 fields/frames per second, not 60 like it used to be in the good ol’ days of black and white TV. So 24fps movies were converted to 23.976. Then you perform 2:3 pulldown so that it plays at 29.97fps, and then just double that for the 59.94 refresh rate. I have no idea how 24fps works on 59.95Hz TVs these days. Maybe there’s some newer technology that displays it properly.

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by DuckLeQuack

Oh no. What is thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...6&l=0&i=2&go=1

and tiiiiis

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=3&x...&l=0&i=13&go=1

and zis?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...&l=0&i=17&go=1

:'(

What I see is more grain on the IP print due to the fact that it's a copy of the OCN.

Here https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...&l=0&i=17&go=1 you'll be able to see more detail on the yarn, less grain on her arm, and the couch look more real with much less noise. The image is smoother like the characteristics of film.

And oh yea, much better color reproduction.

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Yeah, they would have had to add more blue to get the sign to look green. I can't think of any other reason why it is off.

Take a look at my post here https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=10012 for a reason.

[lgans316]

UK folks: First part is £27 delivered (Amazon UK).

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

Yeah, no DVD is 24. But 24 is fine for UHD and is accurate to how the film was shot was my point.

Hmm, that’s strange. I’ve used a few different programs to look at the frame rates of DVDs and all I’ve ever seen is either 23.976 or 29.97. Maybe the software just thinks it’s 23.976…?

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

I wish I could bend..I'm old now. Enjoy your youth. How is 24fps correct? I notice our old WIDESCREEN DVD is 29.9 what is with that? You know everything I think the DVD TV cut also said 29.9 but I'm tired now...

https://www.bing.com/search?q=motion...FORM=QBLH&sp=2


Any other frame rate is an offset to work with older TVs. Today's TV can reproduce 24fps which is desirable because the source is actually 24fps.

The only time something is not shot at 24fps is mostly everything else shot on video (which is 30fps.) Digital motion picture cameras also record at 24fps to help keep the look of standard motion picture film when it's projected or displayed.

Frame rates higher than 24fps is a totally different subject all together.

[Toddarino]

Originally Posted by leeving

Got an email from Shout! that 4 and 5 are shipping via UPS...


Nothing from Sacred Bones about the 1,2,3 vinyl sets.

Has anyone gotten theirs from Sacred Bones yet?

Hmm that was going to be my backup plan. I think I just need to accept the fact that I (and many others) probably won’t get these by Halloween.

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by leeving

Got an email from Shout! that 4 and 5 are shipping via UPS...


Nothing from Sacred Bones about the 1,2,3 vinyl sets.

Has anyone gotten theirs from Sacred Bones yet?

At least you got Shout to ship something.

Sacred Bones did ship my CD soundtrack for HK.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by MR THX

Nahh, 4 & 5 are Not Great Movies, Lets be honest. Easy pass.

Neither is 2 and 3, ill take part 4 over those.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Hmm, that’s strange. I’ve used a few different programs to look at the frame rates of DVDs and all I’ve ever seen is either 23.976 or 29.97. Maybe the software just thinks it’s 23.976…?

No, no, you misunderstood my post. I didn't mean "yeah, DVD is 24", I meant "NO DVD is 24", meaning there are no DVD's that are 24.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

Oh, I'm right there with you. I had pretty much talked myself out of any of them right away, and deciding I was just going to wait for a sale or some sort of BOGO offer from Target or something.

Then the early Best Buy stock happened - so I went one night and got H1. Next day they had H2. Drove back, got that one. LOL.

At that point, with a week to go, and how awesome the packaging was and how good the discs looked, I realized, heck, I really need 4 and 5 then.
Got those on release day.

And finally, yesterday, H3 arrived. I really wasn't going to grab that one (I think I've seen it all the way through once, on VHS, 25 years ago, and I might have even ffwd through), but then it looked like that one was running out everywhere...so I ended up getting that one, too.

Yes, a sucker is born every minute haha - they totally got me. I can't believe I just forked over $130 in a week span for these discs, but I did. And I don't regret it, either. It really has ignited an new and deeper appreciation for the series that I didn't always have. I mean, I've always liked it, I've read books about them, etc. - but revisiting it like this has been a blast. Especially since I don't have the previous box set, so all the extras are "new to me".

Glad I'm not the only one who jumped in head first, LOL.

After buying and screening the 15 disc set for my son a couple of years ago (minus part 3) I've decided that I will only ever upgrade and watch parts 1,2 and 4 ever again. They are the only ones I bought this time around.

The boxset will be sufficient for the other installments if anyone in my household wants to seek them out. NOBODY in my house is allowed to watch part 3. My hatred for that film is well documented. I doubt the disc would even play as I've flung it around the room so often and used it as a beer coaster on occasion...

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

After buying and screening the 15 disc set for my son a couple of years ago (minus part 3) I've decided that I will only ever upgrade and watch parts 1,2 and 4 ever again. They are the only ones I bought this time around.

The boxset will be sufficient for the other installments if anyone in my household wants to seek them out. NOBODY in my house is allowed to watch part 3. My hatred for that film is well documented. I doubt the disc would even play as I've flung it around the room so often and used it as a beer coaster on occasion...

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Just did some AB comparisons to the Lionsgate disc.. truly is no contest, Shout proves superior across the board. Much better/saturation, while still not a colorful film, it looks far less manipulated. Also Shout is MUCH better in motion shots, which are key to most of the film. The opening sequence draws me in like never before! And the TrueHD track is miles better than the 5.1 and mono tracks, least tinny dialogue and best atmosphere.

Only complaint is contrast appears a bit blown out in a couple of daylight shots compared to the Lionsgate disc. Most noteably the early shot of Tommy and Laurie walking and talking. Now to watch the damn movie.

LG does not have a 5.1 track. You obviously don't own it or have watched it LOL!

Originally Posted by thebarnman

Like I said 500 pages back is photographing outdoors with daylight film balanced at 6500K, with the light actually having a higher color temperature will cause the image to have a bluish tint to it.

Typical summer light sun & sky is 6500K. Average summer shade is 8000K.
Skylight (blue sky) is 12,000 to 20,000K. That image mostly shows skylight which is much higher than what the 6500K white point the film is balanced for therefore making white blueish and effecting all the other colors towards blue.

Our brain adjusts for that, film cannot.

It's not your brain you and my eyeballs have 3 cones. Oof You don't see out of your brain silly willy.

Originally Posted by thebarnman

What I see is more grain on the IP print due to the fact that it's a copy of the OCN.

Here https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...&l=0&i=17&go=1 you'll be able to see more detail on the yarn, less grain on her arm, and the couch look more real with much less noise. The image is smoother like the characteristics of film.

And oh yea, much better color reproduction.

It's just overly saturated and if you like that fine. I don't like green street signs that are yellow in real life nor do I like and blue signs that are white in real life. But you do disillusioned you

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

If that's what you do when you watch part 3, then there is cause for concern.

From my one time viewing on VHS a hundred years ago, there are a lot of kids in it