Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)

[JamesBenjamin]

Originally Posted by UK_fan_05

That is not a fact for the movie. Just because it happened in the comics doesn't mean the same will happen in the film either. Plus

[Show spoiler]if he does die in Civil War they are bringing him back for Infinity War.

There is no point in one character, Bucky or Falcon, taking over the mantle of Captain America when Evans is done with the role. Retire the character and recast down the road like Marvel has talked about doing before.

They wouldn't have made Winter Soldier if they weren't going to have Bucky take over as Captain America. This way Bucky gets an arc. Its the most logical thing to do, storytelling-wise.

If Bucky doesn't become Cap after Civil War I'll eat my internet hat.

[StevenHarvey1990]

Originally Posted by JamesBenjamin

They wouldn't have made Winter Soldier if they weren't going to have Bucky take over as Captain America. This way Bucky gets an arc. Its the most logical thing to do, storytelling-wise.

If Bucky doesn't become Cap after Civil War I'll eat my internet hat.

I think Steve will retire as Cap at the end of Civil War due to the aggravation of the whole situation. Fury will dictate that the people need someone in the Captain America costume so Bucky will take the mantle for Infinity War: Part One, and Steve will be back for Infinity War: Part Two because he realizes he IS needed. This is where IMO he will die. That way they change it up just enough from the comics for it to be fresh but still true. I also think Hulk will be sent 'away' at the end of Infinity War

[DisneyBlu]

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SPIDER-MAN is still actively casting & reading a lot of teen actors to play 15 yrs old. Yes, they're going that young per agency sources.

[StingingVelvet]

It makes sense they would go super young like that. Adds contrast with the other Avengers and offers a fresh take on the character not seen in the previous two franchises.

[UK_fan_05]

Originally Posted by JamesBenjamin

They wouldn't have made Winter Soldier if they weren't going to have Bucky take over as Captain America. This way Bucky gets an arc. Its the most logical thing to do, storytelling-wise.

If Bucky doesn't become Cap after Civil War I'll eat my internet hat.

No offense and I'm sorry if it offends you but that is the dumbest thing I've heard.

[Ray_Rogers]

Spider-Man shouldn't be young anymore. He should be in his late 20's and already married to Mary Jane Watson. Also he should be going for his post-Graduate and teaching part-time at NYU.
ENOUGH with the young teenaged Peter Parker!

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by UK_fan_05

No offense and I'm sorry if it offends you but that is the dumbest thing I've heard.

Well, it's kind of the whole reason they did it in the comics.

I know, comics/movies such-and-such, but still.

[esteban²]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It makes sense they would go super young like that. Adds contrast with the other Avengers and offers a fresh take on the character not seen in the previous two franchises.

Agree. I was thinking the same; They need that contrast. Still hoping for Logan Lerman, who's able to pull that off, playing a teenager.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by esteban²

Agree. I was thinking the same; They need that contrast. Still hoping for Logan Lerman, who's able to pull that off, playing a teenager.

That's also why I like the idea of Stark being in this one. Having Tony not wanting a kid on The Avengers makes sense, and seeing the headstrong kid trying to earn his place is compelling, while also dealing with daily teen life. It'll actually be very similar to when Spider-Man tried to join the Fantastic Four. As long as this is all handled correctly, we should be in for something good.

[esteban²]

That makes sense, Walt. *thumb*

[RockzillaXD]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Spider-Man shouldn't be young anymore. He should be in his late 20's and already married to Mary Jane Watson. Also he should be going for his post-Graduate and teaching part-time at NYU.
ENOUGH with the young teenaged Peter Parker!

Yes I agree completely. I was never a fan of the angsty teen Spider-Man popularized by Ultimate Marvel. A 15 year old doesn't fit in well with the Avengers either.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by RockzillaXD

Yes I agree completely. I was never a fan of the angsty teen Spider-Man popularized by Ultimate Marvel. A 15 year old doesn't fit in well with the Avengers either.

But that's the point...Spider-Man was a teen in the comics too, not just Ultimate, and I think the MCU needs the contrast. We need the street bound heroes, and Spider-Man should start as a kid. Have him being a kid trying to an adult's job, like he was, as he balances his two lives. That's what made the character work for so long. Just because the films haven't done it completely correct so far doesn't mean it can't be done correctly. I'd rather see him as a teen who gets to grow, than have him as an adult already. Especially since they're going to let Spider-Man focus on his villains and his dual life, and not the love story this time around. I think that's better for the film. Spider-Man being a teen is an Integral part of the character. So I'd rather see it handled well and grown from there.

[DisneyBlu]

People complain we've seen Spider-Man already, then it's a problem when Marvel wants to do a 15 year old Spider-Man? We haven't seen a 15 year old Spider-Man.

Teen heroes -- not sidekicks -- are rare. I can understand why Marvel wants the unique opportunity of using a teenage superhero.

We have to remember, Spider-Man was the first teen hero. Robin, Toro, Bucky... they were sidekicks. Spider-Man was a superhero who was a teenager and that's part of why the character took off the way he did.

Peter Parker graduated half an hour into Raimi's Spider-Man. In The Amazing Spider-Man 2, he graduated in the first ten minutes. We haven't seen a series that takes place with Peter in high school the whole time.

And when he's with the Avengers, that offers a unique vantage point: this teen kid, out of his depth, dealing with these heroes - his heroes - who are larger than life. To me, that's interesting.

It's like Ant-Man. Instead of using Hank Pym, another scientist/superhero, they're using Scott Lang: a single father/small time crook. 15 year old Peter Parker is just another instance of adding a new dynamic to the MCU.

I'd love to see Peter married to MJ. But the 15 year old hero, juggling the responsibilities of every day life with the responsibilities of being a superhero, that's what made the character popular in the first place. He didn't have a mansion, resources, and tech like Tony Stark, he didn't have the respect and admiration like Captain America, he didn't have a big, shiny building and base of operations like the Fantastic Four. He was just a teenaged kid from Forrest Hills trying to do his best with these amazing powers he didn't ask for.

[StingingVelvet]

I mean if you want an older Spider-Man there are two great Sam Raimi movies out there for you and a third that isn't as bad as people act like it is. It makes sense for them to do something fresh this time.

[Diesel]

While I would prefer an older Spider-Man (23-25 maybe? Right out of college age), the idea of the contrast of going that young with the older MCU heroes does provide for some interesting scenarios.

In Feige we trust

[StevenHarvey1990]

Am I the only one that wants them to do the origin again? Not necessarily spending 30 minutes on it, but something like Hulk's opening. We see him getting bitten, wrestling, Uncle Ben dying all in the first 10/15 minutes, and pick up with him chasing the killer instead of just picking up when he is Spider-Man... I just think Marvel should start right at the beginning, and do everything right once and for all. Third time lucky and all that.

I love the idea that they see it as a Harry Potter type situation where we watch the young actor and the character get older and enter the different phases of his life. To imagine by Spider-Man 6 he'd be out of college and moving on to that phase of his life is exciting to me, and if they cast as young as they're wanting then I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

In the end I have complete faith in Marvel and Feige to get it right. I think the reason the MCU is working so well is because they are happy to create a mix of different superhero's that will play off one another. A teenage Parker only adds to that dynamism IMO.

EDIT: Just noticed Sam Strike will play Leatherface not Peter Parker. Thank God for that!

[seannyd]

The problem I have is that if you're going to have a 15 year old in the Avengers, you better get a fantastic actor. Most teens don't really have the range necessary to hold their own against the heavyweight actors that are currently in the movies. That's not to say that it's impossible to find one, but I imagine it would be very difficult. So my concern is the best actor period.

[JamesBenjamin]

Originally Posted by StevenHarvey1990

Am I the only one that wants them to do the origin again? Not necessarily spending 30 minutes on it, but something like Hulk's opening. We see him getting bitten, wrestling, Uncle Ben dying all in the first 10/15 minutes, and pick up with him chasing the killer instead of just picking up when he is Spider-Man... I just think Marvel should start right at the beginning, and do everything right once and for all. Third time lucky and all that.

I love the idea that they see it as a Harry Potter type situation where we watch the young actor and the character get older and enter the different phases of his life. To imagine by Spider-Man 6 he'd be out of college and moving on to that phase of his life is exciting to me, and if they cast as young as they're wanting then I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

In the end I have complete faith in Marvel and Feige to get it right. I think the reason the MCU is working so well is because they are happy to create a mix of different superhero's that will play off one another. A teenage Parker only adds to that dynamism IMO.

EDIT: Just noticed Sam Strike will play Leatherface not Peter Parker. Thank God for that!

This would be perfect. Show him getting bitten, the wrestling bit, taking on criminals, then open with the rumored

[Show spoiler]fight with Iron Man to prove his worth, have IM beat him badly and go "look kid, you're good but not good enough to be an Avenger"

and then have him go on his own adventures for a while. Maybe train with Shield? The new cartoon has some good things going on, presumably the movie will follow that path (or the comics it was based on). No Coulson as principal, but they could stick another guiding Agent in there.

[spiderfan1985]

I'm still miffed that Garfield is getting shafted and we won't get a proper conclusion to the Amazing series, but I have hope that Marvel can do this. Just have Gwen Stacey please. Even though

[Show spoiler]she dies

it is part of the lore and will no doubt give it an edge in later movies. As the Amazing series would have if it had been allowed at least a finishing chapter.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by StevenHarvey1990

Am I the only one that wants them to do the origin again? Not necessarily spending 30 minutes on it, but something like Hulk's opening.

I think most of us expect and want that exact same kind of thing. The issues for Marvel are identical, an origin just being told in a film that isn't in their canon, so I would guess they handle it the exact same way.

I kind of hope no one else already exists though. By that I mean I hope when it's time to introduce a villain or Mary Jane that person gets a real introduction. It would be a shame if all his villains were already around, because it really helps to see a villain's origins. Ronan in Guardians for example is a complete waste of a villain because he has no character development or story of his own.