Official Denon Owners Thread

[Yoe-f30]

Check your internet Rocky, you hitting POST to many time lol

About Dynamic Vol. I don't use it at all, when I tested it, it goes too low in volume. Lucky me, my wife don't complaint about high volume and neighbors are far from my house. So I crank everything up. night and day. Music @ 75-85 and Movies @ 65-70. From 0-98 volume.
DyEQ=ON
DYVol=OFF

I added a second sub @ rear opposite corner from sub one and set most off the speakers at 80hz.

Reference level for Movie.
Front L\R level for Music.

[superpacman]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Check your internet Rocky, you hitting POST to many time lol

About Dynamic Vol. I don't use it at all, when I tested it, it goes too low in volume. Lucky me, my wife don't complaint about high volume and neighbor are far from my house. So I crank everything up. night and day. Music @ 75-85 and Movies @ 65-70. From 0-98 volume.
DyEQ=ON
DYVol=OFF

I added a second sub @ rear opposite corner from sub one and set most off the speakers at 80hz.

Reference level for Movie.
Front L\R level for Music.

Hey there, I thought we lost you!!!

Ewwww, you have your AVR volume set to use Relative instead of Absolute!!!

You just been kicked out of the Home Theater club!!!

[Yoe-f30]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

You make great points...But those dynamic modes are usually used for late night watching or when others at home are sleeping. That means that loudness will be altered in unrealistic ways: a bomb going off will sound low volume whereas even a pin dropping will sound too loud and non-realistic...Basically it will do anything to make naturally louder sounds less loud, and naturally lower sounds louder

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Originally Posted by superpacman

Hey there, I thought we lost you!!!

Ewwww, you have your AVR volume set to use Relative instead of Absolute!!!

You just been kicked out of the Home Theater club!!!

Hi there Mr. pacman

LOL, It was a joke, take 10db out of those. But, I do like a little high than normal.

I was taking some time for my other hobby which is on my picture profile. Also cranking it up in HP and roarrrr

[superpacman]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Hi there Mr. pacman

LOL, It was a joke, take 10db out of those. But, I do like a little high than normal.

I was taking some time for my other hobby which is on my picture profile. Also cranking it up in HP and roarrrr

Ahhh!!!
The other expensive hobby.

Not expensive, but my other hobby is Mountain Bike riding.

[BobbyMcGee]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I agree with you especially when going from bluray to TV programs.
I use DynEQ and DynVol (Light) off and on basd on several factors. There is no law that you should either keep those features on permanently or never use them at all.
Personally when playing an ew bluray movie for the first time, I keep them all off (especially Atmos blurays). If I go back and watch that particualr title again a second or third time I will then experiemnt a little with DynEQ and DynVol.
Also the time of the day depends whether I use them or not. During times when there is a lot of background noise (wife cooking, fan running, etc) I tend to use those features more often. If it is "Movie Night" and all we have on is the Home Theater then I will turn them off and crank up Master Volume

I think the reason why the "Light" setting works for me is I usually listen to my films around -25dB.

But yesterday evening, I watched John Wick (Atmos track) and set my volume at -15dB with Dynamic Volume set to Off and it sounded fine to me.

But, I noticed that if I set MultEQ to "Flat" for John Wick I got more clarity from the audio track's sound effects and more distinct punchiness from the bass (such as bullets hitting their targets)! My L/R towers, L/R rears, and center channel are all around 5.5 feet from my sitting position, while my front heights are around 8.5 feet.

After I watched John Wick, I got curious and decided to try out Mad Max: Fury Road (Atmos Track) with MultEQ set to "Flat" as well and did not like the sound in comparison to MultEQ set to "Reference", which is my usual setting. I felt that in this case I lost detail and bass where I felt like both were improved with John Wick (when set to Flat as opposed to Reference).

I am actually thinking about adding a post-it note with my Blu-rays that have my preferred settings for a particular film when I encounter a difference from my typical settings. That way, when I re-watch it, I already know what to adjust my settings to. Because I have too many films to remember them all.

[drb124]

I did a brief search, but did not see anything. I just picked up a The Denon 910 upgrading from my old Onkyo 605. I watch a lot of noir and older films with mono tracks, but many are encoded in DTS-HD 2.0 channel mono. With the Onkyo, I had to have the player output PCM, but then I could turn on Prologic and the track would get dropped into the center channel. But with then Denon I cannot find a mode that will do that. There is mono movie mode, but it puts it in the center channel with an echo type sound to the front 2. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by BobbyMcGee

I think the reason why the "Light" setting works for me is I usually listen to my films around -25dB.

But yesterday evening, I watched John Wick (Atmos track) and set my volume at -15dB with Dynamic Volume set to Off and it sounded fine to me.

But, I noticed that if I set MultEQ to "Flat" for John Wick I got more clarity from the audio track's sound effects and more distinct punchiness from the bass (such as bullets hitting their targets)! My L/R towers, L/R rears, and center channel are all around 5.5 feet from my sitting position, while my front heights are around 8.5 feet.

After I watched John Wick, I got curious and decided to try out Mad Max: Fury Road (Atmos Track) with MultEQ set to "Flat" as well and did not like the sound in comparison to MultEQ set to "Reference", which is my usual setting. I felt that in this case I lost detail and bass where I felt like both were improved with John Wick (when set to Flat as opposed to Reference).

I am actually thinking about adding a post-it note with my Blu-rays that have my preferred settings for a particular film when I encounter a difference from my typical settings. That way, when I re-watch it, I already know what to adjust my settings to. Because I have too many films to remember them all.

Like I said peviously,nothing is writte in stone, but the purists would tend to keep all Dynamic settings off and MultEQ set to Reference, and if a particular soundtrack does not sound as good they claim that is how the studio produced it and how it was meant to be heard, so no reason to ever alter any settings other than adjusting Master Volume.
As I grow into this hobby I feel like it is "fun" to experiment and think outside the box. I break the audiophile rules often but again, when I get that new 4K or 3D bluray in Dolby Atmos that I had on pre-order for months, and we gather around to watch it for the first time, with no other distractions or noises, I set Dynamic modes all off and crank volume up to -9dBl

[superpacman]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Like I said peviously,nothing is writte in stone, but the purists would tend to keep all Dynamic settings off and MultEQ set to Reference, and if a particular soundtrack does not sound as good they claim that is how the studio produced it and how it was meant to be heard, so no reason to ever alter any settings other than adjusting Master Volume.
As I grow into this hobby I feel like it is "fun" to experiment and think outside the box. I break the audiophile rules often but again, when I get that new 4K or 3D bluray in Dolby Atmos that I had on pre-order for months, and we gather around to watch it for the first time, with no other distractions or noises, I set Dynamic modes all off and crank volume up to -9dBl

You have to take a few things into consideration. Not all AVR's have the same sound signature or speakers for that matter. A persons room will have some play on the final outcome as well. We really can't know how the soundtrack was meant to be heard, unless we were in the studio at the time it was being made. So a person making adjustments at trying to get the audio to what they feel is the best is pretty much all we can do with our systems.

[Dwayne]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Check your internet Rocky, you hitting POST to many time lol

About Dynamic Vol. I don't use it at all, when I tested it, it goes too low in volume. Lucky me, my wife don't complaint about high volume and neighbors are far from my house. So I crank everything up. night and day. Music @ 75-85 and Movies @ 65-70. From 0-98 volume.
DyEQ=ON
DYVol=OFF

I added a second sub @ rear opposite corner from sub one and set most off the speakers at 80hz.

Reference level for Movie.
Front L\R level for Music.

My question has nothing to do with Dynamic Volume, etc.. All I am interested in is how are you feeling about your set up now that you are familiar with the settings and has the addition of a second sub-woofer worked well for you.

[Yoe-f30]

Originally Posted by Dwayne

My question has nothing to do with Dynamic Volume, etc.. All I am interested in is how are you feeling about your set up now that you are familiar with the settings and has the addition of a second sub-woofer worked well for you.

Everything sounds fine for me now with a lot of testing.
I added the second sub to cover my dead spot in the room and I'm still messing with setting depending of source type.

[Dwayne]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Everything sounds fine for me now with a lot of testing.
I added the second sub to cover my dead spot in the room and I'm still messing with setting depending of source type.

Good answer. I will let you get back to it my friend, GOOD LUCK.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by superpacman

You have to take a few things into consideration. Not all AVR's have the same sound signature or speakers for that matter. A persons room will have some play on the final outcome as well. We really can't know how the soundtrack was meant to be heard, unless we were in the studio at the time it was being made. So a person making adjustments at trying to get the audio to what they feel is the best is pretty much all we can do with our systems.

I certainly can't argue with that.
By the way I now have 3 subwoofers connected...Is that an odd number of subs to have?

[RockyIII]

HAve you guys tried to experiment between HDMI audio connection and Optical Audio connection with your Denon and your various devices?

[Yoe-f30]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

HAve you guys tried to experiment between HDMI audio connection and Optical Audio connection with your Denon and your various devices?

Good question. No doubt that HDMI is better for audio. NOW, Optical vs ARC same thing.
I was going to try on mine but as Optical is pretty much the same audio quality as ARC, I didn't try. When I tested, lets say a YouTube video from my TV app using ARC connection the quality really sucks compared to youtube app on my UHD player, that off course goes to Denon first. As both audio are pretty much the same, I went ARC for HDMI device control over optical.

Conclusion, I stay away from play any audio from my TV as I can, off course, I'm stuck with cable. I which Samsung could have done one HDMI out for just audio as they did with the UHD player.

[superpacman]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I certainly can't argue with that.
By the way I now have 3 subwoofers connected...Is that an odd number of subs to have?

Ummmm, yes its an odd number, but not truly an odd situation. I think its great that you have a 3rd, but you do know what the bottom line for having subs?

[Show spoiler]It's best to have an even number of subs, so since you have 3, you gotta move up to 4...

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Good question. No doubt that HDMI is better for audio. NOW, Optical vs ARC same thing.
I was going to try on mine but as Optical is pretty much the same audio quality as ARC, I didn't try. When I tested, lets say a YouTube video from my TV app using ARC connection the quality really sucks compared to youtube app on my UHD player, that off course goes to Denon first. As both audio are pretty much the same, I went ARC for HDMI device control over optical.

Originally Posted by RockyIII

HAve you guys tried to experiment between HDMI audio connection and Optical Audio connection with your Denon and your various devices?

There shouldn't be a audio difference by using either an Optical or an HDMI, except with an HDMI there are more channel to have.

If you want to hear a difference with audio tracks and especially with music, change between a digital(Optical or HDMI) and a analog signal. There are plenty of arguments of which sounds better. Me personally, I love analog for music, and digital for movies.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

Good question. No doubt that HDMI is better for audio. NOW, Optical vs ARC same thing.
I was going to try on mine but as Optical is pretty much the same audio quality as ARC, I didn't try. When I tested, lets say a YouTube video from my TV app using ARC connection the quality really sucks compared to youtube app on my UHD player, that off course goes to Denon first. As both audio are pretty much the same, I went ARC for HDMI device control over optical.

Conclusion, I stay away from play any audio from my TV as I can, off course, I'm stuck with cable. I which Samsung could have done one HDMI out for just audio as they did with the UHD player.

I hate to have 3 devices on at the same time (receiver, BD player, TV) when I can have just 2 (receiver, TV)

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[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by superpacman

Ummmm, yes its an odd number, but not truly an odd situation. I think its great that you have a 3rd, but you do know what the bottom line for having subs?

[Show spoiler]It's best to have an even number of subs, so since you have 3, you gotta move up to 4...

There shouldn't be a audio difference by using either an Optical or an HDMI, except with an HDMI there are more channel to have.

If you want to hear a difference with audio tracks and especially with music, change between a digital(Optical or HDMI) and a analog signal. There are plenty of arguments of which sounds better. Me personally, I love analog for music, and digital for movies.

I am referring to strictly TV audio

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[Yoe-f30]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I hate to have 3 devices on at the same time (receiver, BD player, TV) when I can have just 2 (receiver, TV)

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I don't get it.
Meaning 3 devices at the same time? to where? Have just 2, receiver and TV?? Why left out your BD player, where are you going to watch movies??

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Yoe-f30

I don't get it.
Meaning 3 devices at the same time? to where? Have just 2, receiver and TV?? Why left out your BD player, where are you going to watch movies??

Let me explain better:

If I want to watch Netflix in DD+ from my BD player Netflix app I need
1. Receiver On
2. BD player On
3. TV display On

But....
if I choose to watch Netflix in DD+ from my TV Netflix app, all I need is
1. Receiver On
2. TV display On

So you tell me why would I want THREE (3) devices running when I can just have TWO (2) devices running with the same result?

[superpacman]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

HAve you guys tried to experiment between HDMI audio connection and Optical Audio connection with your Denon and your various devices?

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I am referring to strictly TV audio

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Oh, it didn't look like you were, and that's why I mentioned the difference between a digital signal and analog signal.

I'm almost confused now, so which/how many various devices will transmit TV audio?