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Saw it last night and loved it. As much as I enjoyed Oppenheimer, I definitely felt the last hour, but man Killers of The Flower Moon flew by. The cast of characters were fantastic and not just the main ones, the supporting cast were all excellent.
The film tackles the story of the Osage murders differently from the book. I personally didn't see an issue with this, it's a true story and you can really come at it from any angle, it's not like it is a work of fiction where diversion changes the developments. I am surprised at the amount of derision for Leonardo Di Caprio on here. He's a good actor and was good in this, is he the best ever? Probably not, but he's not terrible. Solid film, definitely be purchasing this if we get a Blu Ray, hopefully we do. |
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#1042 |
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To think, we got this and Oppenheimer in the same year. We have been mighty lucky this year. Stunning film.
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Blu-ray Samurai
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Definitely going to see this again before it leaves PLF theaters. I saw many similarities in tone and pacing to The Irishman but for whatever reason this one worked much better for me. I felt trapped in my seat during the final hour of The Irishman (and I’ve never had the motivation to revisit it even though I picked up the Criterion ages ago) but my GF and I both easily passed the no-bathroom break challenge for Killers of the Flower Moon. Compelling from beginning to end.
I guess some people are taking issue with Leo’s performance? Certainly not a showcase for him compared to something like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and he does kind of disappear into the ensemble cast. But I don’t think it’s really intended to be “his” film even if it was kind of marketed that way. Quote:
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#1045 | |
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Dec 2019
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Plus The Meg 2. |
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#1046 |
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Also, someone mentioned how even though De Niro played the devil in Angel Heart, his William hale makes the devil seem tame. Totally agreed. It's so great to see him really operate at this level at his age.
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#1047 |
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Aug 2016
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This movie has so much in common with Gangs. When was the last time anybody talked about that movie other than to say DDL acted DiCaprio off the screen? This one will probably go down as that movie with the incredible Gladstone performance.
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#1050 |
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#1051 | |
Blu-ray Samurai
Jan 2009
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I'm just some chump posting on the internet. Why is it interesting to you or worth commenting upon whom i like or don't like? why would you care about my opinion? ![]() |
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#1052 |
Blu-ray Samurai
Jan 2009
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Imagine thinking this is an art house movie in any way. This is as mainstream as they come - big budget maximalist filmmaking. Nothing about it is indie or art house. Kinda serves actual indi movies ill to be compared with Killers - they don't have anything close to the resources that Scorsese to tell their story. Their budgets are less than the food or driver budget for Killers.
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#1053 | |
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Jan 2009
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When i see discussions of the great films of the 2000s, these films are never mentioned. |
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Thanks given by: | everygrainofsand (10-25-2023) |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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United Kingdom
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#1056 |
Blu-ray Samurai
Jan 2009
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The literal definition of arthouse is theaters that show little seen limited release speciality pictures that never see wide releases - catering to a niche market.
Killers is a 250 million dollar wide multiplex release in over 3000 screens, day and date global release. Even the makers of Killers will find it baffling when they hear it being called an arthouse film. Maybe you think arthouse is a term of praise 😀 I can assure you it's not. It's just a signifier of the realities of its production and distribution. For what it's worth, there are plenty of terrible arthouse films every year - so "arthouse" is not a badge of honor! |
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United Kingdom
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But I wasn't specifically referring to KotFM, just in general. Quote:
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#1059 | |
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Jun 2016
Atlanta, GA USA
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That this has come during a particularly bad time in the development of popular media, as giant conglomerates are swallowing up independent voices wholesale, profit-hungry shareholders are smothering creative opportunities, and our culture is so inundated with distractions and anxieties about wealth-inequality, has only further complicated and handicapped attempts at addressing this vacuum in ways that do these complex, harrowing subjects the justice they deserve. For a very brief time during the New Hollywood period, when the money men at the top had been forced to temporarily yield control to artists determined to puncture the old comforting lies and produce works for audiences primed to question the status quo, there was hope that American movies could actually become a means of expanding our grasp of the human condition in all its thorny respects. Unfortunately, mindless entertainments on one side and injudicious creatives who'd lost the plot and strayed into nihilism and narcissim on the other, swiftly quashed this promise of a future, more adult Hollywood cinema. In its wake, we have conditions that become less congenial with each passing year for legitimately sophisticated artistic statements of any kind, including those that attempt to recreate history on the screen. As such, at least as far as Hollywood product goes, "entertainments" like Killers of the Flower Moon that have elite (still usually white) names attached to them, do occasionally grant us an opportunity to get at something a bit more substantial, edifying, and thought-provoking that what we can typically expect from the corporatized "dream factory"; for all their inevitable shortcomings. Scorsese's filmization was doomed from the start, simply by virtue of the money talents involved and the sources of financing behind it, from ever becoming the cinematic document we need shedding brilliant, transcendent light on the Osage Indian Murders of the 1920s. What we got in the end is still likely better than the telling we deserve, though, and has earned my (limited, but sincere) plaudits, at any rate. |
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Blu-ray Archduke
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I thought he did what he was supposed to. Some slight spoilers. But still being vague. His first scene he shouts his lines and it seems to surprise people, but I think of him as an attack dog for a character so he is supposed to be loud and aggressive.
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