I'd get just a trace crazier also add in original theatrical 35mm and 70mm versions of the OT since they differed. And original theatrical 35mm and digital of Attack Of The Clones since they also differed. And also The Force Awakens with 1.43:1 IMAX scene fully intact with no cropping.
What about the original The Phantom Menace with scary Yoda?
I'd get just a trace crazier also add in original theatrical 35mm and 70mm versions of the OT since they differed. And original theatrical 35mm and digital of Attack Of The Clones since they also differed. And also The Force Awakens with 1.43:1 IMAX scene fully intact with no cropping.
You can get pretty crazy with the versions if you really break down everything. Clones could also get the IMAX cut which I've heard good things about. And yes, I'd take cracked-out Yoda to get the theatrical cut of The Phantom Menace!
And where's my George Lucas/Director's Cut of Rise of Skywalker? Let's go Disney!
You can get pretty crazy with the versions if you really break down everything.
If you want to get even more obscure, there's a cut of The Last Jedi in Mainland China which adds on-screen text introducing major characters (in English and Chinese).
I can't find any documentation of it online, but it does exist. I don't know if it actually got released on home video in any form, or if it's only available through low-quality camera bootlegs (ala 35mm Attack of the Clones).
If you want to get even more obscure, there's a cut of The Last Jedi in Mainland China which adds on-screen text introducing major characters (in English and Chinese).
I can't find any documentation of it online, but it does exist. I don't know if it actually got released on home video in any form, or if it's only available through low-quality camera bootlegs (ala 35mm Attack of the Clones).
There's a bunch in the first scenes where major characters appear on screen. Luke, Leia, Snoke, Kylo, Finn, Rey and Yoda have them, but Poe doesn't seem to(?). I don't think any of the new characters have them.
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Rey
An orphan with a mysterious background
Blessed with natural, powerful instinct of the Force
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Luke Skywalker
The Last Jedi
Brother of Princess Leia
Living in seclusion since his pupil, Kylo Ren, turned evil
There's also an explanation of R2 playing back Leia's message, which contains an inaccuracy.
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Distress message sent by Princess Leia 34 years ago,
Luke joined the Resistance the same year
I might be missing some.
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There's a bunch in the first scenes where major characters appear on screen. Luke, Leia, Snoke, Kylo, Finn, Rey and Yoda have them, but Poe doesn't seem to(?). I don't think any of the new characters have them.
There's also an explanation of R2 playing back Leia's message, which contains an inaccuracy.
You can get pretty crazy with the versions if you really break down everything. Clones could also get the IMAX cut which I've heard good things about.
I don't recall that it brought anything new. They just cropped off the edges to make it true IMAX ratio and then just cut out a bunch of parts so it could fit onto a single IMAX platter sort of like an edited for time TV version of this or that movie.
I don't recall that it brought anything new. They just cropped off the edges to make it true IMAX ratio and then just cut out a bunch of parts so it could fit onto a single IMAX platter sort of like an edited for time TV version of this or that movie.
Interesting, I did see it in IMAX and thought was more cropped than 1.8:1 but perhaps not. I would've guess at least 1.66:1. But I did see it just once that way, in a theater I was not used to and had never been to before (or since) and it is going on 20 years ago now so I guess I'm off. I suppose it does make a bit of sense though since I do recall thinking that it didn't seem like a super horrible amount was lost and it didn't feel quite as altered as I had feared which does fit with 1.81:1 much more than 1.66:1 much less 1.43:1, although I do also recall wondering why they had to crop and couldn't have just shown it in OAR and recall being pleasantly surprised when later IMAX releases on mainstream movies ended up going OAR instead of P&S.
Are you sure by reformatted they didn't just mean a careful pan and scan shifting around scene by scene as opposed to an automatic fixed P&S? Anyway, I don't remember at all enough to be able to say either way. It would seem majorly expensive and tricky to have to add in new stuff from scratch at top/bottom of tons of scenes.
I don't recall that it brought anything new. They just cropped off the edges to make it true IMAX ratio and then just cut out a bunch of parts so it could fit onto a single IMAX platter sort of like an edited for time TV version of this or that movie.
Some people I've heard like the cuts and find the movie to play better and less bloated. I don't know, because I haven't seen it. Still, would be worth throwing on for some kind of hypothetical "everything and kitchen sink" kind of set.
I should also mention that all of the films would be brand new transfers-- The Phantom Menace could either be a new pre-DNR transfer from the 2K digital files, or a 4K scan of the conformed negative that was made back in '99. Clones would likewise be sourced from the original digital master prior to the added DNR and tweaked color-timing and re-edits done for the Blu-Ray. The OT would of course be all new 4K remasters with grain intact for every version.
So yeah if this comes out I get credit for thinking of it
Made a pretty sick poster for the very first original feature (1977).
Something had to be done, wasn't a fan of the large white portions of the original poster, diverting from the original is against my rules, but thought I'd share.
Source (only real high-res version I could find, can't be an original poster since it says 'A New Hope' but works for my use): https://postimg.cc/D4dtNhT4
Color corrected (comparing other posters online, hard to know how blue it should be, dialed down the yellow, not overexposing, skin tones more natural): https://postimg.cc/BLsWBtWf
Overhaul ('HILDEBRANDT' removed, also the big white portion at the bottom, clone-stamped it black, added standard theatrical text, borrowed from another): https://postimg.cc/87rq8LNV
Final (title added 'STAR WARS' no 'A New Hope' no 'Episode IV' just 'STAR WARS' like in 1977): https://postimg.cc/9DGJtbcz
Second image is crushed to bits with blue, unrepairable, neither are really that high-res.
Here's the image from which I borrowed the bottom theatrical text from, high-res of course, had to rotate the text by 0.1 degrees, was somewhat skewed. https://postimg.cc/7J3fQ5h1
The final outcome plays fine with John Williams score!
Some people I've heard like the cuts and find the movie to play better and less bloated. I don't know, because I haven't seen it. Still, would be worth throwing on for some kind of hypothetical "everything and kitchen sink" kind of set.
I should also mention that all of the films would be brand new transfers-- The Phantom Menace could either be a new pre-DNR transfer from the 2K digital files, or a 4K scan of the conformed negative that was made back in '99. Clones would likewise be sourced from the original digital master prior to the added DNR and tweaked color-timing and re-edits done for the Blu-Ray. The OT would of course be all new 4K remasters with grain intact for every version.
So yeah if this comes out I get credit for thinking of it
That Phantom Menace negative is all filmout material, even the non-VFX shots, but it would still be a prime element to use for transfer. It'd be great if it happened someday.
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Interesting, I did see it in IMAX and thought was more cropped than 1.8:1 but perhaps not. I would've guess at least 1.66:1. But I did see it just once that way, in a theater I was not used to and had never been to before (or since) and it is going on 20 years ago now so I guess I'm off. I suppose it does make a bit of sense though since I do recall thinking that it didn't seem like a super horrible amount was lost and it didn't feel quite as altered as I had feared which does fit with 1.81:1 much more than 1.66:1 much less 1.43:1, although I do also recall wondering why they had to crop and couldn't have just shown it in OAR and recall being pleasantly surprised when later IMAX releases on mainstream movies ended up going OAR instead of P&S.
Are you sure by reformatted they didn't just mean a careful pan and scan shifting around scene by scene as opposed to an automatic fixed P&S? Anyway, I don't remember at all enough to be able to say either way. It would seem majorly expensive and tricky to have to add in new stuff from scratch at top/bottom of tons of scenes.
Most of it was just pan and scanned but I distinctly remember seeing something about how a select few shots were actually recomposed for 4:3 (it being digital meant it could be redone much easier), like the shot of Anakin talking to the Jawas during the montage where he's looking for his mother on Tatooine. I'll be goddamned if I can find anything about it now, I may have imagined it
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Growing up in the 20th Century some people made negative comments about Star Wars movies. Some people did not like the religion of the Jedi and the concept of the force. Also, some people did not like the violence. However, the majority of people in the world consider the Star Wars movies to be a family friendly Science fiction fantasy that contains many family values. Also, the violence in the Star Wars movies is very mild and that is why all 11 movies have either a PG or PG-13 rating. There is no bad language and no nudity in any of the Star Wars movies like some PG-13 movies have. The PG and PG-13 rating are for some mild science fiction fantasy violence that lacks the level of violence detail that is found in some R rated movies. In the secular world all 11 Star Wars movies are family friendly with very little for one to complain about. There are some moral family values with the concept of good verse evil in the Star Wars movies. The fictional Darth Vader character was originally a good person that helped defend the republic and democracy. However, people change in life and Darth Vader switched sides and became an evil dictator for the Empire (later called the New Order). The Empire and New Order goal was to destroy the Republic and democracy and to take over the galaxy and Universe.
George Luas sees the Star Wars movies as a fictional fantasy world that does not follow the known laws of physics (that is what I understand from watching the extra features). Maybe one day with advances in technology Science fantasy could become Science fact for some of the concepts in the fictional Star Wars movies. George Lucas is a very talented director, producer, writer, and businessman. However even though I love George Lucas movies, I do not agree with some of his political views that some websites claim he has. One can be a fan and supporter of people’s movies even if they do not agree with their politics.
George Lucas and Steven Spielberg are friends and have a professional business relationship with each other. In the fictional 1982 E.T. movie, Spielberg during the Halloween night scene has E.T. going mildly wild and saying “home” a few times to a person dressed up as Yoda for Halloween. Then in the 1999 Star Wars 1: The Phantom of the Menace movie, there is a very brief scene where one gets to see E.T. and E.T.’s family off to the side of the screen. Watch and listen to the audio commentary and the commentary track will tell you exactly where E.T. and E.T.’s family appear in the first Star Wars movie. George Lucas and Steven Spielberg are also seen together in some of the bonus features.
The first Star Wars movie that I saw was back in an indoor movie theater in 1977. I saw the first Star Wars movie a few days after it had just been released. I was with some family members and a relative, and we arrived at the movie theater later then we should have, and we were able to get the last tickets before the show sold out. However, by the time we made it into the movie theater we had missed the beginning of the movie and the scene with the two robots in the desert was already occurring. We had a very hard time finding an empty seat since the theater had just been sold out and almost every seat was taken. It was amazing watching Star Wars for the first time with a live audience in 1977. People in the movie theater cheered during certain scenes in the movie. A week later I and one of my family members went to see the Star Wars movie again back in 1977 so that we could see the movie from the beginning since the first time we saw it we missed several minutes at the beginning. In 1980 I then saw The Empire Strikes back in a movie theater and then in 1983 I saw Return of the Jedi in a movie theater. In the late 1990’s I saw the original 3 Star Wars movies again in a commercial THX certified movie theater after George Lucas and his team made improvements to the movies. George Lucas and the studios that own the Star Wars movies has the authority to make any changes they want to their creation. I know over the years that George Lucas has made many changes to the original 3 Star Wars movies, however all of those changes I and most Star Wars fans really like since they make small little improvements to the movies over all experience. It is awesome that a movie series like Star Wars is so popular that George Lucas and his team has the resources to make improvements to the original Star Wars movies. In 1999 I saw Star Wars 1: The Phantom of the Menace in a movie theater, and many other Star Wars movies in a commercial movie theater before they were released on home video. Star Wars 4-6 was released before Star Wars 1-3 was released in the movie theaters. Now all 11 Star Wars movies exist on the 4K Blu-ray format (Star Wars 1-9 ,Star Wars Rogue One, and Star Wars: The Solo story).
The Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga on the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray format has more extra features when compared to the original individual Star Wars releases (that is true for the Last Jedi movie only). I like how the Skywalker Saga boxset has the Star Wars movies in numerical order instead of the order of the release date. If it was not for the boxset, I would have watched the Star Wars movies in the order of release date, however since I had the boxset, for the very first time I watched the movies in numerical order which was an awesome experience. All 9 original Star Wars movies plus the 2 additional ones flows together when watching Star Wars 1: The Phantom of the Menace first and then Star Wars 9: The Rise of Skywalker last (Then watching Rogue One and Solo after watching the original 9 in the boxset makes the entire 11 Star Wars movies come to life and have new meaning to this fictional fantasy world).
I like the professional look of the Skywalker Saga boxset (except the case that holds the Blu-ray discs I did not like the layouts since it is easier to get fingerprints and possibly scratches when pulling out a disc or inserting a disc). It takes over a week and many days and hours to see all 11 movies including all the extra features. The Skywalker Saga boxset contains 27 Blu-ray discs (9 BD-66 discs, 13 BD-50 discs, and 5 BD-25 discs). Rogue One contains 3 Blu-ray discs (1 BD-66, 1 BD-50, and 1 BD-25 disc). Solo contains 3 Blu-ray discs (1 BD-66, 1 BD-50, and 1 BD-25). I decided not to post the exact amount of GB’s used on each optical disc since that is a time consuming process for the amount of discs in this series. I watched all 11 movies with extra features and there was absolutely no problems or glitches at all when playing back the movies on my 2016 OPPO UDP-203 Blu-ray player (even reverse scanning and pausing several times was perfect on the 4K OPPO Blu-ray player). I was disappointed that all 11 Star Wars movies use a standard BD-66 (66GB) discs instead of a BD-100 (100GB disc). This boxset would have been much smaller if 100% 100GB Blu-ray discs were used. Also, this boxset would be a lot smaller if this release was not a combo pack. I did not like that all 11 movies (9 movies in the boxset and 2 movies individually purchased separately ) contained both a 4K (2160P) Blu-ray and a standard 2K (1080P) Blu-ray. In the future in the ideal world if the Star Wars Saga was to be released again, it should be on triple layer 100GB discs and with all the movies in Dolby Vision HDR instead of the standard HDR10 format (also no combo packs for those consumers that have upgraded all their Blu-ray players to 4K Blu-ray player models).
The first 6 Star Wars movies has 2 separate full length audio commentary tracks, however Star Wars 7 and 8 only has one audio commentary track. Star Wars 9, Rogue one, and Solo are the only 3 Star Wars movies without an audio commentary track (None were every created for those 3 movies). Exclusive to this boxset is a new movie only musical score for Star Wars movie number 8 (lossy 5.1 Dolby Digital that was enjoyable to listen too, however I wish all musical scores were lossless instead of lossy). Also exclusive to this boxset is Meet the Porgs extra feature which I really enjoyed. I really like the Chewbacca character and the Porgs characters in the movie. It is disappointing that there are absolutely no extra features on any of the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs for any of the 11 Star Wars movies, one has to insert the standard Blu-ray discs for extra features. There was plenty of space on the 66GB discs for the audio commentary tracks, however for some reason the studio made the decision to only place the audio commentary tracks on the standard Blu-ray discs. Therefore, one is forced to watch the movies on the standard 1080P Blu-ray discs in order to listen to the full-length commentary tracks. In the ideal world 100% of the time all studios should always place the audio commentary tracks on the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. All the extra features use the MPEG-4/AVC codec at resolutions of 1080P, 1080i and 480i depending on which extra features that are being watched.
The 11 Star Wars movies were a financial success with none of them losing any money (Some were more successful when compared to others). For example, the original 1977 Star Wars 4 movie had a budget of $11 million dollars and box office sells was $775.8 million dollars. The 1999 Star Wars 1 movie had a budget of $115 million dollars and box office sells was $1.027 billion dollars. The 2015 Star Wars 7 movie had a budget of $306 million dollars and box office sells was $2.068 billion dollars. Some people that were involved with all or some of the Star Wars movies over the last 30 to 45+ years have become billionaires and millionaires. If one is talented, gets a college degree from a film school, and works on a successful film series, they have the potential to earn a lot of money over their lifetime (However many people make movies and TV series for the fun of creating something unique that will last for many generations, and getting a high or low salary is the last thing on their list). Making movies is a lot of work that sometimes involves many people spending 60-80+ hours a week for over a decade of their life when it comes to creating quality movie series. Also keep in mind that movie studios are just like major corporations with several thousands of employees and contractors. There is both entry level, middle level positions, and executive positions when working for a movie studio. Some people for some movies volunteer their time and make no money at all or make less then $20,000 a year working on some hit movies. One has to work their way up in a movie studio by having degrees from a film school, drama degrees, job experience, and also some people need special artistic talent, along with doing hard work for many months and years to come. Over the years according to many audio commentary testimonies from non-Star Wars related actors. Many actors never have the time to even see the entire movie or TV series that they appeared in since they are too busy working on the next movie or TV series. Also keep in mind that some actors in some lower budget movies and TV series get paid a lot less when compared to hit movies with a budget of around $300 million dollars. Also, actors have a higher cost of living expenses to maintain their privacy and to hire a security team when they become a popular celebrity. Some famous actors end up going bankrupt later on in life since when they get older they have medical expenses, cost of living increases with inflation, and sometimes they did not save enough money for retirement. Also keep in mind there can be a bubble in entertainment world for movies and videogames with more people involved during the years when there is a decrease in demand for such entertainment. Not everyone in the world can or should join a film crew or become an actor. Some people would enjoy their life more if they became a police officer, doctor, lawyer, etc.
Some of my favorite actors in the Star Wars movies is Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher. Star Wars fans were sad to hear that Carrie Fisher passed away on December 27th 2016. 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs can last literally over a 1,000 years if stored and treated correctly, therefore Carrie Fishers memory will be alive and well for possible over a 1,000 years with the many Star Wars fans around the world for several generations to come. Carrie Fisher has some excellent comments with the audio commentary tracks and bonus features on these Blu-ray discs. In Star Wars 9 using original recordings, computer technology, and facial technology, Carrie Fisher appears in the Star Wars 9 movie. I really enjoyed seeing the talented actor Daisy Ridley in Star Wars 7-9 (spoiler: In Star Wars 9 her character becomes one of the most powerful Jedi's every with the power to heal and resurrect people from the dead.:End of spoiler.)The talented actor Emilia Clark is one of the main characters in the Solo Star Wars story and also in the famous Game of Thrones series. Perhaps more Star Wars movies might be made and maybe the Star Wars series might never be canceled, just like the James Bond movie series continues on. If there are quality scripts and production, then as long as the Star Wars movies remain profitable there might always be new and coming Star Wars movies for the next generation to watch.
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