Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III - Page 58 - Blu-ray Forum

Batman1980 · 08-26-2018, 09:49 PM

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I agree. Rickman's performance was great, I just don't think the character was as fascinating a villain as the Joker. Gruber and his henchmen were taken down by one barefoot, off-duty cop. Of course given that TDK is a superhero movie and Die Hard wasn't, at least not in the comic book sense, it could be an apples and oranges comparison anyway.

A villain that I do find more fascinating than the Joker is Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. Both characters appeared to be embodiments of evil, but the Joker was more like a force of nature. He appeared to be insane and just wanted "to watch the world burn" for the sake of destruction. Chigurh was a psychopath who appeared to be rational. He had a code that he followed strictly, such as keeping his promises no matter what, and some kind of bizarre logic or twisted morality, like using the coin toss to determine his actions at times. To me, this made Chigurh more unpredictable and terrifying. Again, given the nature of the films it could be an apples and oranges comparison. Ledger, Rickman and Bardem were all excellent in their roles.

Alan Rickman made me feel for the Sheriff of Nottingham, something I didn't think was possible.

Foggy · 08-26-2018, 10:04 PM

Only seen the opening action sequence from the Extended Deadpool 2 cut, but man, does it make me respect the job of an editor. All nice having some lofty action choreography and fancy camera work, but it goes on forever and become monotonous, like geez, more is definitely less the case with that one.

captainron_howdy · 08-26-2018, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by plateoshrimp

hans gruber wasn't that great.

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theEXORCIST · 08-26-2018, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by plateoshrimp

I agree. Rickman's performance was great, I just don't think the character was as fascinating a villain as the Joker. Gruber and his henchmen were taken down by one barefoot, off-duty cop. Of course given that TDK is a superhero movie and Die Hard wasn't, at least not in the comic book sense, it could be an apples and oranges comparison anyway.

A villain that I do find more fascinating than the Joker is Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. Both characters appeared to be embodiments of evil, but the Joker was more like a force of nature. He appeared to be insane and just wanted "to watch the world burn" for the sake of destruction. Chigurh was a psychopath who appeared to be rational. He had a code that he followed strictly, such as keeping his promises no matter what, and some kind of bizarre logic or twisted morality, like using the coin toss to determine his actions at times. To me, this made Chigurh more unpredictable and terrifying. Again, given the nature of the films it could be an apples and oranges comparison. Ledger, Rickman and Bardem were all excellent in their roles.

Maybe not as fascinating but definitely on the same level but as someone who was raised on comics the Joker will always be one of the most fascinating villains for me

CineSicko · 08-26-2018, 11:46 PM

There hasn't been a superhero movie worth owning since SUPERMAN II (1981).

theEXORCIST · 08-26-2018, 11:58 PM

I think Batman Returns is worth owning but yeah Superman 2 is a classic

Rodney-2187 · 08-27-2018, 12:05 AM

The Richard Donner Cut

Batman1980 · 08-27-2018, 12:11 AM

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The Richard Donner Cut

You leave Lester alone.

AKORIS · 08-27-2018, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CineSicko

There hasn't been a superhero movie worth owning since SUPERMAN II (1981).

well, I don't agree with that but I will say that SUPERMAN II is a great movie and in my top 5 favorites of that genre....

theEXORCIST · 08-27-2018, 01:13 AM

Wonder Woman is the best superhero tv show

AaronJ · 08-27-2018, 01:20 AM

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I always felt that Aaron Eckhart's performance as Two-Face was just as integral to The Dark Knight as Ledger's as the Joker. The film doesn't work without them.

The character is definitely critical. And Eckhart does a great job.

But Ledger's Joker is just terrifying, because there is no real reason why he's doing what he's doing. Two-Face has a definite purpose. Almost all villains have some reason why they do what they do. It's revenge, or world domination, or something. The reason Joker's such a great villain, IMO, is because you never really know -- and there probably honestly isn't a real reason -- why he does what he does.

He wants to create chaos and anarchy and make people do things against their natures. Why? Who the hell the knows? And to me, that's much scarier than someone who has some revenge strategy or whatnot. Joker's like a void. Like a black hole. He probably has no purpose at all. That's scary.

AaronJ · 08-27-2018, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theEXORCIST

Wonder Woman is the best superhero tv show

Well, it had Lynda Carter. Thus ... true.

Rodney-2187 · 08-27-2018, 01:36 AM

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Wonder Woman is the best superhero tv show

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Well, it had Lynda Carter. Thus ... true.

I always liked The Greatest American Hero.

Head bugs · 08-27-2018, 01:27 PM

[wiki]My Dinner with Andre tricks you into thinking the film is brilliant, I think. It's insufferable at times and even ridiculous, maybe I should read the book. Seems that would be the easiest way to digest this mess.

Pizzamorg · 08-27-2018, 03:10 PM

The Cabin in The Woods is one of the best films ever made but it makes me sad that a snooze fest like Good, Bad and The Ugly gets three hours while this film barely gets more than ninety minutes.

Star Lord · 08-27-2018, 03:18 PM

Gal Gadot is godawful at acting.

BladeRunner2007 · 08-27-2018, 05:01 PM

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Gal Gadot is godawful at acting.

That's no secret but people dig her because of her looks.

Jennifer Lawrence Fan · 08-27-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

That's no secret but people dig her because of her looks.

Don't say that. or you will anger some people here.

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JustinB13 · 08-27-2018, 07:04 PM

Yeah she’s not great. But I think her naivety in acting, the “I don’t know what I’m doing so I’ll just smile,” really helped her portray Wonder Woman with an infectious earnestness. So I do think she’s a great Wonder Woman.

Trace Buster Buster · 08-27-2018, 10:37 PM

I agree Gadot is not a great actress yet I've liked her in everything I've seen her in (even Keeping Up With the Joneses). She has a great screen presence that goes beyond just her looks but she won't win any oscars anytime soon. She's in that Paul Walker/Keanu Reeves category of actors who don't have a ton of acting ability but I like watching them on screen.

08-26-2018, 10:04 PM	#1142
Foggy Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:UK 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:3611 DVD collection:47	Only seen the opening action sequence from the Extended Deadpool 2 cut, but man, does it make me respect the job of an editor. All nice having some lofty action choreography and fancy camera work, but it goes on forever and become monotonous, like geez, more is definitely less the case with that one.

08-26-2018, 11:46 PM	#1145
CineSicko Banned Member since:Mar 2016 Blu-ray collection:1049	There hasn't been a superhero movie worth owning since SUPERMAN II (1981).

08-26-2018, 11:58 PM	#1146
theEXORCIST Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Minneapolis Mn 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:930	I think Batman Returns is worth owning but yeah Superman 2 is a classic

08-27-2018, 12:05 AM	#1147
Rodney-2187 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 4K collection:31 Blu-ray collection:416 DVD collection:149 MA collection:717 Digital collection:367 iTunes collection:764 Prime collection:730 Trading Score:82	The Richard Donner Cut

08-27-2018, 01:13 AM	#1150
theEXORCIST Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Minneapolis Mn 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:930	Wonder Woman is the best superhero tv show

08-27-2018, 01:27 PM	#1154
Head bugs Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2017 Location:🇺🇸 Trading Score:59	[wiki]My Dinner with Andre tricks you into thinking the film is brilliant, I think. It's insufferable at times and even ridiculous, maybe I should read the book. Seems that would be the easiest way to digest this mess.

08-27-2018, 03:10 PM	#1155
Pizzamorg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2014 Blu-ray collection:102	The Cabin in The Woods is one of the best films ever made but it makes me sad that a snooze fest like Good, Bad and The Ugly gets three hours while this film barely gets more than ninety minutes.

08-27-2018, 03:18 PM	#1156
Star Lord Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2017 Location:Knowhere 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:177	Gal Gadot is godawful at acting.

08-27-2018, 07:04 PM	#1159
JustinB13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2015	Yeah she’s not great. But I think her naivety in acting, the “I don’t know what I’m doing so I’ll just smile,” really helped her portray Wonder Woman with an infectious earnestness. So I do think she’s a great Wonder Woman.

08-27-2018, 10:37 PM	#1160
Trace Buster Buster Special Member Member since:Dec 2017 Location:The Earth's Core 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:678	I agree Gadot is not a great actress yet I've liked her in everything I've seen her in (even Keeping Up With the Joneses). She has a great screen presence that goes beyond just her looks but she won't win any oscars anytime soon. She's in that Paul Walker/Keanu Reeves category of actors who don't have a ton of acting ability but I like watching them on screen.

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