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[Naiera]

I've made it my life's mission to watch all Star Trek, except the animated Old Scientists and that kid's show, I guess.

I'm well on my way through Enterprise and I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. Otherwise, I'm one season behind on Discovery, which I will catch up on after Enterprise.

[By_His_Strypes]

I enjoyed Enterprise... It should've been able/allowed to go the full 7 seasons.

[mysticwaterfall]

Yeah, I would have loved seeing the Romulan war and the founding of the Federation. The fourth season should have been the first season since it had all the prequel stuff people actually wanted. Of course, that didn't happen because of a lot of the reasons that are explained on the Blus.

[BluGalaxy]

Originally Posted by Naiera

except the animated Old Scientists

Why? It's utterly charming!

[Steedeel]

I loved all the Cardassian and Dominion stuff in DS9 best. That really was peak Trek for me.

[frankrizzo13]

Originally Posted by Naiera

I've made it my life's mission to watch all Star Trek.

Things not to say on a first date...or ever, really.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by BluGalaxy

Why? It's utterly charming!

Just getting through Those Old Scientists will be enough of a slog.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by frankrizzo13

Things not to say on a first date...or ever, really.

Cool story bro

[Rixx]

Originally Posted by BluGalaxy

What people?

These people

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BluGalaxy

Yes, answer the question, what people?

I remember when the promo dropped a week before the first episode, me and my brother who were kids (young teens really) at the time looked at each other and agreed that looked great. There was a definite buzz in the lead up and I don't remember any real negativity about it. Of course you'll always get the odd person who'll not like something. Even the most popular Movies and TV will have someone who hates it, and that's ok, it's called diversity of opinions and thought, and that's the only diversity I'm interested in.

Well I wasn't a kid. And there were a lot of fans complaining about it.
Not to mention there was no internet as we know it at the time for the toxics of the time to vent to everyone. But here's an article about it (a little searching goes a long way, you might want to try it sometime):

https://screenrant.com/tng-ripoff-ne...hows-fan-hate/

Not to mention there was a toxic fandom beginning and making Wil Wheaton's life a living hell, as they would later do to Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best. Denying the existence of toxic fans isn't going to help them.

[John1701D]

I bet Ruth Breisinger feels like a fool now.

[Josep5349]

She’s always claimed she was miss-quoted.


However the hate was real, and even shared by some the original cast. George Takei would often openly criticise and mock TNG at conventions as that got lots of laughs and approval from the audiences…until he started to notice his mocking began to fall flat and wasn’t getting the same reactions. At which point he changed his tune.

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[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I stopped watching at Enterprise season two. Up until that point, I was a die hard.

Thanks to SNW, I’m back in the family.

You stopped watching just as ENT got good. The Xindi arc in S3 is excellent and all the mini-arcs across S4 are a load of fun.

[mysticwaterfall]

You have to wonder if they even watched the show since they label Geordi as the "new Spock" when if anyone was supposed to be Spock on next Gen it was Data.

I remember watching the premiere when it was new. My Dad is a huge trek fan so he had showed me and my bothers classic Trek over the years prior to it, so it was a big event in our house. Never once did anybody in the house complain about it replacing the original show. The only time my Dad complained is when Yar died at the hands of the infamous oil monster.

Now admittedly, besides Far Point the first season of TNG is painful to watch. TNG really didn't come into it's own until S3 ("Measure of a Man" and some others from S2 being exceptions)

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

However the hate was real, and even shared by some the original cast. George Takei would often openly criticise and mock TNG at conventions as that got lots of laughs and approval from the audiences…until he started to notice his mocking began to fall flat and wasn’t getting the same reactions. At which point he changed his tune.

Shatner claimed to have never watched any of TNG. Which made the claim that he "wrote" the TNG-era novels like The Return total bullshit.

Nimoy always seems to have been a class act. I can't find anything negative said about later TREKs.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

Now admittedly, besides Far Point the first season of TNG is painful to watch. TNG really didn't come into it's own until S3 ("Measure of a Man" and some others from S2 being exceptions)

I'd have to add 11001001 and Conspiracy to that list. The Arsenal of Freedom isn't too bad either (though the engineer is an a-hole because we need some drama), nor is Heart of Glory. Kind of have to watch Datalore for later TNG episodes.

Encounter at Farpoint has its cringe moments too, notably Yar's speech before Q tells her to STFU by freezing her.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You stopped watching just as ENT got good. The Xindi arc in S3 is excellent and all the mini-arcs across S4 are a load of fun.

Just wasn’t feeling it Geoff. Didn’t connect with the crew at all. First time that happened since I got into Trek as a boy. I found them quite bland.

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I'd have to add 11001001 and Conspiracy to that list. The Arsenal of Freedom isn't too bad either (though the engineer is an a-hole because we need some drama), nor is Heart of Glory. Kind of have to watch Datalore for later TNG episodes.

Encounter at Farpoint has its cringe moments too, notably Yar's speech before Q tells her to STFU by freezing her.

If it hadn't been for Q, Farpoint would have been a bust for me.

There were definitely some standout moments in season one though. As a fan of film noir, I always get a kick out of The Big Goodbye. The Neutral Zone was fairly decent as well. It's just that the lows, when they come, are REALLY low. Similar story for season two really.

I was 11 when TNG started. We had no internet, and I had no idea there was any new Star Trek until we saw it on the shelves at the local video rental store. Hired Farpoint and wasn't overly enamoured with it. Probably took me a season or two to really get into it. A valuable lesson learned about not writing things off straight away if you don't like them, which benefited DS9 and B5 further down the line. Wasn't thrilled with their opening episodes either, but stuck with them and was amply rewarded each time.

[BluGalaxy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You stopped watching just as ENT got good. The Xindi arc in S3 is excellent and all the mini-arcs across S4 are a load of fun.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one who thought season 3 was the best season!

[BluGalaxy]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Just getting through Those Old Scientists will be enough of a slog.

Fair enough, you do have to be a fan of the TOS to like the animated series. It's basically a back door season 4