Skipping 4K and waiting for 8K?

[Geoff D]

Ugh, don't remind me. 8K is just over 33 million pixels (7680x4320 16:9) while NTSC SD is roughly 345K pixels (720x480 4:3). To fit that into 8K would require upscaling it by a staggering 96 times. Holeeeeee shit.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Ugh, don't remind me. 8K is just over 33 million pixels (7680x4320 16:9) while NTSC SD is roughly 345K pixels (720x480 4:3). To fit that into 8K would require upscaling it by a staggering 96 times. Holeeeeee shit.

Good god.

Though I must say, I watched "Our Man Bashir" the other day to test DVDs on my new 4k TV and it looked pretty solid. I was expecting a splotchy mess but I think it actually looked better than on my 1080p TV.

[Geoff D]

Yeah, I can quite happily watch a deeveedee on my fourkay teevee. But ATEKAY? I dunno about that, man.

[master gandhi]

No, I'm not waiting. We could all be dead tomorrow. A lot of good that waiting would have done us, eh?

[sapiendut]

Exactly!!!

[motorheadache95]

8K just seem ridiculous to me outside of maybe large, commercial theater screens. I mean, we are at a point now where we have to ask ourselves how much better a damn movie has to look to watch and enjoy it. To me going 4K from 1080P Blu-Ray was already beginning to strain the need for upgrading PQ at all.

Like StingingVelvet said, the actual 4K resolution was the least interesting aspect of this whole "4K" upgrade, with the focus being on upgraded color and HDR. The only way I can see upping the resolution past 4K for anything at all remotely practical is with advances in virtual reality or some kind of future holographic technology that will replace traditional TV sets.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Good god.

Though I must say, I watched "Our Man Bashir" the other day to test DVDs on my new 4k TV and it looked pretty solid. I was expecting a splotchy mess but I think it actually looked better than on my 1080p TV.

Is that so? I'm a getting a big 4K OLED TV, and I was almost not even considering watching DVD on it at all. But maybe it isn't the complete train wreck I was thinking it was going to be.

[flyry]

I do have to agree I don't think we'll see 8k discs. Even now there are movies streaming on Amazon in UHD that don"t have 4k releases.

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Is that so? I'm a getting a big 4K OLED TV, and I was almost not even considering watching DVD on it at all. But maybe it isn't the complete train wreck I was thinking it was going to be.

It varies from DVD to DVD, some are completely serviceable, while others are a complete mess, especially non-Anamorphic DVD's, and of coarse the larger the display you get the bigger the problem (I went from a 46" LCD to a 65" OLED).

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

It varies from DVD to DVD, some are completely serviceable, while others are a complete mess, especially non-Anamorphic DVD's, and of coarse the larger the display you get the bigger the problem (I went from a 46" LCD to a 65" OLED).

Thanks-- I'll test it maybe, but otherwise I might go full-retro and watch DVDs on my old CRT

[rbg08]

Interesting topic. I agree with others in this thread that 8K resolution alone won't be enough to get me (and many others I imagine) to upgrade. There has to be a new killer feature besides pixel count. I have a 55" OLED and HDR along with 10-bit color is the biggest perceivable improvement (besides the unbelievable black levels inherent in OLED) over my old 48" 1080P LED. Sitting across the room, the bump in resolution isn't that noticeable. I have to sit 6 feet away or less to really see the increase in detail.

I'm really looking forward to upgrading my home theater to 4K, where I have a 92" screen that I sit approximately 12 feet away from. At this distance and screen size, the bump in resolution to 4K should be more discernible. But a further increase to 8K in my home theater would be similar to my current situation with my 55" TV where I would need to stand real close to the screen to see any additional detail. So I can't see any situation where 8K in the home would offer any tangible benefits by itself (except for large PC screens).

[brainofj72]

Originally Posted by rbg08

Interesting topic. I agree with others in this thread that 8K resolution alone won't be enough to get me (and many others I imagine) to upgrade. There has to be a new killer feature besides pixel count. I have a 55" OLED and HDR along with 10-bit color is the biggest perceivable improvement (besides the unbelievable black levels inherent in OLED) over my old 48" 1080P LED. Sitting across the room, the bump in resolution isn't that noticeable. I have to sit 6 feet away or less to really see the increase in detail.

I'm really looking forward to upgrading my home theater to 4K, where I have a 92" screen that I sit approximately 12 feet away from. At this distance and screen size, the bump in resolution to 4K should be more discernible. But a further increase to 8K in my home theater would be similar to my current situation with my 55" TV where I would need to stand real close to the screen to see any additional detail. So I can't see any situation where 8K in the home would offer any tangible benefits by itself (except for large PC screens).

Maybe this is part of why I tend to think the uptick in detail with 4K resolution is more noticeable and drastic than a lot of others here - I'm sitting about seven feet away from a 65" TV.

[StingingVelvet]

I sit seven feet from a 60". I think people keep searching for deeper answers when it comes down to settings and taste. Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.

[Geoff D]

I sit further than that from my 55" but I can still see obvious resolution differences between BD and UHD content.

[imsounoriginal]

I'm about six feet away from a 40" -- there's a noticeable difference.

[GunZenBomZ]

8k computer gfx card

https://www.redsharknews.com/product...eon-pro-duo-8k

[substance]

I am going to hold of until infinite K disc. They have infinite contrast ratio tvs so why not.

[monanza]

Even if you can't see a difference between 4K and 8K (when sitting far enough away,) don't you effectively gain 2 bits of color depth?

[ps3bd_owner]

4K is amazing, but years before they talked about 8K so is it happening? Where does it leave 4K?

Also, 1080p isn't "Full HD" anymore or is it?

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

4K is amazing, but years before they talked about 8K so is it happening? Where does it leave 4K?

Also, 1080p isn't "Full HD" anymore or is it?

I don't see 8K discs happening. Seems like the point of diminished returns for distribution companies. Me personally, 4K BD will be my last physical media.