Stephen Kings Cats Eye 4K UHD (1985)

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

This is the sort of grading job that deserves the overwhelmingly negative criticism. I much prefer the grading on the Warner release, it looks more like how an actual film would look projected and I'd bet money on its grading being far closer to the original intention compared to what StudioCanal pissed out.

Thing is, I think people would be more willing to just shrug and accept it if it was just a warmer and greeny bias.

The problem is, it's not just a bias, it's a wash in many scenes! As I've already said, it's all the more frustrating because just by watching this 4K disc, you can tell how better it could have been if only the grading hadn't been done with all the subtlety of a pack of Crayola with most of the crayons missing.

[DMRI2006]

And the 5.1 sound is atrocious on this remaster, it's so muddy with an overly amplified LFE that drowns out everything if you have a surround system (and yes mine is properly calibrated, this is just a terrible mix). It's the only one of these SC remasters to really bug out audio wise but it's bad enough on its own merits to discourage a purchase, never mind the color grading. Since it lacks the original 2.0 track you're stuck with it too.

[oddbox83]

The Mona Lisa is already the right shade of yellow, so should be fine...

[Steel76]

It's just hilarious when people defend these urine/teal transfers.

So all previous releases, TV, Video, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-Ray etc. are all wrong now?

Oh yeah, it's because it's UHD, and those are ALWAYS perfect, everything before was trash. Right?

It's probably just Hiventy trying to make them look more "modern", or they are colorblind, and see a blue sky as yellow in real life...

If I was rich, I would buy Hiventy, and shut them down.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Steel76

So all previous releases, TV, Video, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-Ray etc. are all wrong now?

I think it's a case of not using those formats as gospel to compare what we get with these new masters as they had their own limitations and were often imbued with their own special sauce.

We shouldn't think of them as reference, and we shouldn't put our stamp on them either. The goal should be to present a home video release as close as possible to what was exhibited originally. Original intention shouldn't be adhered to unless it was achieved (but I'm all for alternative presentations alongside the originals so artists get their visions completed).

New scans from the original sources are a wonderful thing, but they're surpassing the prints for detail (things we were never meant to see like wires and makeup) and are open to interpretation or personal touches. So there needs to be a balancing act.

With great power there must also come great responsibility.

[lilboyblu]

The US Warner Brothers editions are currently $4.95 for the Blu-ray and $5.95 for the DVD at HamiltonBook. Historically speaking, whenever stuff lands there, it's only a matter of time until a new version comes along. Wonder who will be releasing it on 4K in the US? Hope it won't be the yellow abomination that this one is.

[erixon20]

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

The US Warner Brothers editions are currently $4.95 for the Blu-ray and $5.95 for the DVD at HamiltonBook. Historically speaking, whenever stuff lands there, it's only a matter of time until a new version comes along. Wonder who will be releasing it on 4K in the US? Hope it won't be the yellow abomination that this one is.

I hope you are right-because I am in for an American release of this! And hopefully it isn't the yellow version.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Steel76

It's just hilarious when people defend these urine/teal transfers.

So all previous releases, TV, Video, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-Ray etc. are all wrong now?

Oh yeah, it's because it's UHD, and those are ALWAYS perfect, everything before was trash. Right?

It's probably just Hiventy trying to make them look more "modern", or they are colorblind, and see a blue sky as yellow in real life...

If I was rich, I would buy Hiventy, and shut them down.

Well, just because its vastly different doesn't mean its trash, either.

I have said this before, and will say it again - the biggest advantage of physical media is no one can take your copy away. If you like the Blu-ray, then keep the Blu-ray and use that as your reference. If someone else likes the UHD, they can play the UHD. Not every movie needs to be played back in UHD, as even the 1080p Blu-ray format on a modern top-tier OLED/Mini-LED is superior to even modern theatrical rendering in most cases.

Looking at the caps, which is a bad way to do it, but I don't have this release-

Personally, without listing my preference for every cap, i greatly prefer the UHD for the outdoor shots and greatly prefer the BD for the indoor shots. I think they went a bit overboard indoors. Probably wouldnt be enough for me to avoid the release if were available locally, though. In this case the difference is so large is because this is one of those magenta-push HD transfers vs. a very different take in 4K.

Also, it looks like indoors in many shots the reason it is green is because flourescent lighting is used. Flourescent lighting shows up green on film with no manipulation, so it appears they took a purist approach to how the light registered on the film. Previous version ,where the flourescent light appeared white, likely had some manipulation of the colors in post to eliminate that. This is interesting, because when WB restored Goodfellas for 4K, they completely removed all of that green effect that was on the very old Blu-ray; but from a pure "whats on the film" perspective, the green is probably right. An example shot is here:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...204366&i=9&l=0

You can see the reflection of the flourescent lights in the window. On the old Blu-ray, it appears they manipulated the color to cancel out the green cast it registers on film in an attempt to bring it closer to white; on the new 4K restoration, it appears they left the natural green cast that was originally registered on the film

[oddbox83]

Well, I can tell you it just looks wrong on 4K in motion. I wanted to like it but it's just too skewed.

This isn't one where it's a slight bias that people exaggerate - it's literally bathed in green and yellow. It simply does not look like an 80s film should anymore.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

Well, I can tell you it just looks wrong on 4K in motion. I wanted to like it but it's just too skewed.

This isn't one where it's a slight bias that people exaggerate - it's literally bathed in green and yellow. It simply does not look like an 80s film should anymore.

Yeah it looks a bit weird to me as well, which is why I havent imported this one