Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by ZHobbs

It's the same source as the 3D master. The cropping/framing is almost the same.

JP3D_No Turkey.jpg

So, it's safe to assume that the dinosaur heads will be cropped out in this version as well, just like in the 3D one.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

It's the same source as the 3D master. The cropping/framing is almost the same.



So, it's safe to assume that the dinosaur heads will be cropped out in this version as well, just like in the 3D one.

How so? It depends on what the original framing was intended to be. I'm not sure if JP was hard matted to 1.85:1 or soft matted either.

For Close Ups it's not unheard of for foreheads to get cropped out. In framing a composition, the eyes and where they are in the shot, are more important.

[Riddhi2011]

The cropping in JP3D is despicable, especially in the Brachiosaur scene -

JP3D Brachi crop 1.jpg

JP3D Brachi crop 2.jpg

JP3D Brachi crop 3.jpg

JP3D Rex head crop 1.jpg

JP3D Rex head crop 2.jpg

The original 35mm framing wasn't shifted to the bottom part of the frame like the 3D one. There was enough headroom at the top to include the heads of the dinosaurs, and less at the bottom. Also, I'm a photographer and made one documentary short (I've shot it myself).

The basic rule about composition is that you ALWAYS keep your subject within the frame, unless you are going for some odd/artsy framing. JP is not that kind of a movie. I was part of a cinematography course and our teacher/DoP told us to NOT CROP THE HEAD out.

If you look at the Brachio shot, the frame is calling our attention to the unusual subject (Hello, Dinosaur!). But when we look at the character, the head is cut out? No, that cannot be by design! It was an error made during the 3D conversion. Our eyes would always scan the frame for the head and eyes of the dinosaur because that is the part which is engaged in an activity.

The 35mm prints were 4-perf full frame. Only the CG shots were matted, but to a ratio that was closer to 1.72:1.

EDIT: The 4K source (from the screenshots in the previous page) appears to be wider than the 3D version in the CG shots. So, the cropping will hopefully be less of an issue this time.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Yeah, hopefully that isnt the case this time. Universal messed up the first DVD widescreen release of BTTF 2 and 3. They had to redo them and offer replacements, but only because Bob Gale got wind of the problem.

I wonder if Spielberg cares enough.

[BenjaminG]

Frame from a 35mm scan

[Deric2014]

Originally Posted by Synchg

someone confirm grain in the itunes 4k version because those shots look DNR'd af! is not impressed! stop reminiscing about your b$tchass childhood. I'm only looking forward to watching the lost world in 4k HDR. synch out

Why So Serious?

[VickPS]

Ok, still cropped as hell like the BD and BD 3D versions...

Why? They said the 3D release needed those crop because of the rotoscoping, but this? Why haven't they used at least this framing?





It's not the 3D version master as someone confirmed to be present things previously erased in the 3D version, other than a different grading, but this is just wrong..

[Vangeli]

Starting to see why the boxset is going for $50...

[VickPS]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Starting to see why the boxset is going for $50...

This frame is wider than the corrisponding frame of the 3D version though.



It's not going to be as perfect as the original film AR wise (and this means no banner touching the ground in the ending, no T-rex head when she smashes the fences, etc. etc.), but let's wait for more screens.
This should be still a huge improvement over the BD.

[weberrygt]

look at that color though!

For $50... I can't wait!

[nick4Knight]

How can you really tell PQ from non-screenshots. And why would apple 4K encodes be representative of the UHD disc necessarily?

[VickPS]

Originally Posted by nick4amber

How can you really tell PQ from non-screenshots.

You can't.
You can determine other things though, like aspect ratio and if a previous Master was used.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by nick4amber

How can you really tell PQ from non-screenshots. And why would apple 4K encodes be representative of the UHD disc necessarily?

They are not doing separate masters for the itunes. It's the same as the UHD, with HDR. Only the video compression and quality will vary.

[Ant1010]

really have no interest in owning anything but the original.. Guess I'll be waiting until they release them individually

[Nothing371]

My favorite part of JP3:

[I-C-Blue]

That’s strange my copy doesn’t appear THAT warm ... as I’ve said on the lower last page this new master is definitely warmer but not to that extent of the 3D version or the on-screen ZHobbs provides ... then again it’s probably because it’s not a direct screen grab. But thanks Zhobbs for sharing those!

In fact I’m beginning to notice a slight hint of magneta during the Tricera poop scene. But don’t me wrong this grading so far is way better than the 2011 BD. If anything it’s safe to say the magneta purpleish hues have been greatly reduced or removed.

Part of me kind of wishes they would remove the stage light and wires and other goofs like the 3D version removed. Guess those modifications are only done for the 3D version.

Originally Posted by ChrisLikesDinos

Can anyone confirm that this transfer is different from the 3D and 2011 release (aside obvious resolution and HDR changes).

Dying to see some direct feed comparisons. Seems weird Universal hasn't talked about it officially yet.

I can tell you for sure grain is visible in this transfer. I had my phone turned vertically and zoomed in from there to notice enough grain intact.

I find it weird to no press release has yet to be released at all.

[Xorp]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

It'll be the same grading (or at least close to it) they used for the 3D. It's the same 4K master..

Noooooo. Watching the 2D video stream of the 3D release looked ATROCIOUS. Everything DNR'd to maximum waxiness and orange blasted. I hope Spielberg gets wind of this and demands a re-scan. All of his stuff released by Paramount had awesome transfers.

[ZHobbs]

Originally Posted by I-C-Blue

That’s strange my copy doesn’t appear THAT warm ... as I’ve said on the lower last page this new master is definitely warmer but not to that extent of the 3D version or the on-screen ZHobbs provides ... then again because it’s probably because it’s not a direct screen grab. But thanks Zhobbs for sharing those!.

After I saw comparisons I went to look at my settings to see if Warm was on and it wasn't so yeah, probably just the screen grab.

[Blu Cider]

Originally Posted by nick4amber

How can you really tell PQ from non-screenshots. And why would apple 4K encodes be representative of the UHD disc necessarily?

This again?? It's the exact same thing just at a lower bitrate.

[VickPS]

Originally Posted by I-C-Blue

That’s strange my copy doesn’t appear THAT warm ... as I’ve said on the lower last page this new master is definitely warmer but not to that extent of the 3D version or the on-screen ZHobbs provides ... then again because it’s probably because it’s not a direct screen grab. But thanks Zhobbs for sharing those!

In fact I’m beginning to notice a slight hint of magenta during the Tricera poop scene. But don’t me wrong this grading so far is way better than the 2011 BD. If anything it’s safe to say the magneta purpleish hues have been greatly reduced or removed.

Part of me kind of wishes they would remove the stage light and wires and other goofs like the 3D version removed. Guess those modifications are only done for the 3D version.

I can tell you for sure grain is visible in this transfer. I had my phone turned vertically and zoomed in from there to notice enough grain intact.

I find it weird to no press release has yet to be released at all.

So the copy you are watching have a slight magenta push, grain visible from a phone, and none of the edits of the 3D version?
Are you 100% sure it's not the old Master?