Heat (1995) (Director's Definitive Edition) - Page 61 - Blu-ray Forum

Ray Jackson · 03-30-2017, 04:55 PM

I may be able to resist getting this if the critical consensus on the new transfer is a big old thumbs down.

Personally I don't think the current transfer is that great.

For me, the new transfer would have to be pretty bad to not be an improvement on that.

captainjoe · 03-30-2017, 05:47 PM

It's not a huge improvement and the compression could be better but it does have better detail:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...2&l=0&i=3&go=1

the fabric on the chair and the wood deck outside is better resolved

thg · 03-30-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I may be able to resist getting this if the critical consensus on the new transfer is a big old thumbs down.

Personally I don't think the current transfer is that great.

For me, the new transfer would have to be pretty bad to not be an improvement on that.

Audio is an improvement, isn't it?

captainjoe · 03-30-2017, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thg

Audio is an improvement, isn't it?

I can confirm the mix is a lot better

Ray Jackson · 03-30-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by captainjoe

I can confirm the mix is a lot better

That's important.

...good to know.

Ray Jackson · 03-30-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by captainjoe

It's not a huge improvement and the compression could be better but it does have better detail:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...2&l=0&i=3&go=1

the fabric on the chair and the wood deck outside is better resolved

What about these color timing changes I keep hearing about?

rocknblues81 · 03-30-2017, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by captainjoe

It's not a huge improvement and the compression could be better but it does have better detail:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...2&l=0&i=3&go=1

the fabric on the chair and the wood deck outside is better resolved

The new transfer looks zoomed in to me:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...2&l=0&i=3&go=1

MassiveMovieBuff · 03-30-2017, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

What about these color timing changes I keep hearing about?

I actually really like the color timing on the new release. It was really gorgeous during the epic bank robbery shootout. I got rid of the US release before I got this one to do comparisons but I didn't really notice all that big of a difference with the color timing between the 2. Only with certain moments.

Ray Jackson · 03-30-2017, 07:45 PM

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I actually really like the color timing on the new release. It was really gorgeous during the epic bank robbery shootout.

How is it different from the previous release?

Is it a drastic change like the Goodfellas transfer?

MassiveMovieBuff · 03-30-2017, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

How is it different from the previous release?

Is it a drastic change like the Goodfellas transfer?

It has a cooler look. I didn't find it as drastic as Goodfellas at all (even though I love the Goodfellas remaster). I noticed immediately that the Goodfellas remaster was noticeably darker when I first watched it. It took me some thinking with trying to pick out the differences with Heat which I'm very familiar with as well.

MassiveMovieBuff · 03-30-2017, 08:02 PM

Wow! I just noticed on the latest reviews on this site someone gave Heat a 2/5! Seriously?!

rocknblues81 · 03-30-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Wow! I just noticed on the latest reviews on this site someone gave Heat a 2/5! Seriously?!

Maybe they have only seen it once? I didn't like the movie on first viewing as I thought it was bloated. However, it is one of those movies that gets better every time you watch it.

MassiveMovieBuff · 03-30-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknblues81

Maybe they have only seen it once? I didn't like the movie on first viewing as I thought it was bloated. However, it is one of those movies that gets better every time you watch it.

Yeah that could be possible. I loved it my first time but I do agree it gets better every time I watch it.

Nice Guy Eddie · 03-30-2017, 08:51 PM

I saw this in the theater on day one and will buy this release on day one also.

Roonan · 03-30-2017, 09:11 PM

Color grading is not a flaw, it's a creative choice. Flaws are encoding artifacts, macroblocking, DNR, etc...

brian9229 · 03-30-2017, 09:36 PM

The new version definitely looks slightly cropped. Mann himself signed off on the new transfer and AR aside, i like the changes. But, the cropping bothers me.

MassiveMovieBuff · 03-30-2017, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brian9229

The new version definitely looks slightly cropped. Mann himself signed off on the new transfer and AR aside, i like the changes. But, the cropping bothers me.

It is? Is it from the top and bottom?

Roonan · 03-30-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Some creative choices suck.

If it's the intent of the artist (which is the case here), it's not a flaw/problem.

AlexIlDottore · 03-30-2017, 10:05 PM

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If it's the intent of the artist (which is the case here), it's not a flaw/problem.

Tell that to Billy Friedkin.

Case. Closed.

Roonan · 03-30-2017, 10:05 PM

No, it doesn't. It simply means it's not a flaw.

03-30-2017, 04:55 PM	#1201
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	I may be able to resist getting this if the critical consensus on the new transfer is a big old thumbs down. Personally I don't think the current transfer is that great. For me, the new transfer would have to be pretty bad to not be an improvement on that.

03-30-2017, 05:47 PM	#1202
captainjoe Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Alberta, Canada Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:1397 Blu-ray collection:4052 Blu-ray reviews: 5	It's not a huge improvement and the compression could be better but it does have better detail: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...2&l=0&i=3&go=1 the fabric on the chair and the wood deck outside is better resolved

03-30-2017, 08:02 PM	#1211
MassiveMovieBuff Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2014 4K collection:414 Blu-ray collection:1626 DVD collection:97 Trading Score:3	Wow! I just noticed on the latest reviews on this site someone gave Heat a 2/5! Seriously?!

03-30-2017, 08:51 PM	#1214
Nice Guy Eddie Special Member Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Fresno, Ca. 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:574 Trading Score:37	I saw this in the theater on day one and will buy this release on day one also.

03-30-2017, 09:11 PM	#1215
Roonan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:2	Color grading is not a flaw, it's a creative choice. Flaws are encoding artifacts, macroblocking, DNR, etc...

03-30-2017, 09:36 PM	#1216
brian9229 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Vermont / Steelbook™ - 481 4K collection:411 Blu-ray collection:1553 DVD collection:71 Digital collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:59	The new version definitely looks slightly cropped. Mann himself signed off on the new transfer and AR aside, i like the changes. But, the cropping bothers me.

03-30-2017, 10:05 PM	#1220
Roonan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:2	No, it doesn't. It simply means it's not a flaw.

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