Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by Zarak

I totally understand that, and I agree with you that there's nothing artful in inserts or anything about them that relates to the original intent of the film. They're usually cheesy and ill fitting within the context of the movie.

Having said that, I specifically collect vintage X-rated films on Blu-ray just because it's an area of film that really fascinates me. I'll buy literally any hardcore film from the '70s and '80s that gets released on Blu-ray, even if the hardcore scenes are inserts. There aren't that many of them, period, so it's not an extremely demanding hobby to pursue. But anyway, I was led to believe that I was getting an X-rated film here, and it's absolutely not.



There's nothing close to a penetration shot in the movie. It has only nudity.

John Lyon/Joe Rubin said that the negative of Malabimba had the hardcore material, so he says that the original intent of the film was for it to be hardcore, which is how Vinegar Syndrome released it.

Friday the 13th only has Nudity. This has goofy full frontal gyrating nudity with Magdalena giving some very explicit instructions regarding where she'd like to take Communion.

Honestly given the vulgarities, the explicit nudity, the religious themes and the time period it was made it really doesn't surprise me in the least that this would have carried an X rating in its current incarnation if it planned to play in standard theaters. Hardcore inserts would have pushed this well above and beyond what any regular theater would have been willing to run as far as I'm concerned. Though goofy, this film is still quite explicit for the time it was made.

[Ruined]

anyone got any ideas to adhesive the bottom part of glow slip bubbling up back on without messing up the effect?

[Dollar Colonel]

Originally Posted by defile959

LOL did you watch the trailer reel included on the disc? In the middle of one of the trailers, there is—no $h!t—what appears to be a buffering screen from YouTube.

LOL youtube-dl would have provided a higher quality rip.

[vortexx]

Originally Posted by zbinks

The synopsis on the back cover mentions "the uncut US X-rated version" but the details at the bottom also feature an MPAA "R" logo. MPAA's website confirms that the film was certified with an "R" rating, but doesn't provide any other information regarding anything that needed to be cut from the film to achieve that rating, just that the film had an alternate title.



https://www.filmratings.com/Search?f...lena&x=19&y=12

Allegedly, there is a 120 minute cut of the film that was released in West Germany and Austria, but is there any evidence that multiple cuts (aside from the possibility of alternate title cards) were created for the US?

If you are restoring footage that was removed to obtain an R rating, it theoretically would make the cut X rated even if it was never released in that format. The film would have been submitted to the MPAA and they would tell the distributors they would rate it X in it's full version. The distributor can then cut stuff to make it an R rating.
The print is likely what would have received the X. The problem is that some people read the word 'hardcore' posted here and assumed penetration. Keep in mind films like Midnight Cowboy and the Killing of Sister George were rated X films. It doesn't matter if it is called X though as if it is like the Canadian VHS it definitely would have received that rating.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by Ruined

anyone got any ideas to adhesive the bottom part of glow slip bubbling up back on without messing up the effect?

or

Go very very light with the coats so as not to saturate the cardboard but this should work. I'd recommend the gloss variety but Matte would likely work just as well and look fine.

[Katatonia]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...58542421434304

MAGDALENA REPLACEMENT SLIPCOVER! This is the new custom slip that will replace the glow slip. It features a heavy matte card stock with UV spot color in the center. This slipcover will be featured on the remaining half of the run that is with the replicator. We were unable to solve and re-replicate the original glow cover in a timely manner. All outstanding orders will be shipped with the new slipcover unless you contact us at Darkforcedvd@yahoo.com and request the original slipcover. (orders #12234-#12368) If you previously received your order (orders prior to #12234) and you want the original slipcover replaced please stand by for time and details of the replacement program. The new slip is currently in production and we do not have a delivery date yet.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Friday the 13th only has Nudity. This has goofy full frontal gyrating nudity with Magdalena giving some very explicit instructions regarding where she'd like to take Communion.

Honestly given the vulgarities, the explicit nudity, the religious themes and the time period it was made it really doesn't surprise me in the least that this would have carried an X rating in its current incarnation if it planned to play in standard theaters. Hardcore inserts would have pushed this well above and beyond what any regular theater would have been willing to run as far as I'm concerned. Though goofy, this film is still quite explicit for the time it was made.

Thank you, TripleHBK.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by zbinks

The synopsis on the back cover mentions "the uncut US X-rated version" but the details at the bottom also feature an MPAA "R" logo. MPAA's website confirms that the film was certified with an "R" rating, but doesn't provide any other information regarding anything that needed to be cut from the film to achieve that rating, just that the film had an alternate title.



https://www.filmratings.com/Search?f...lena&x=19&y=12

Allegedly, there is a 120 minute cut of the film that was released in West Germany and Austria, but is there any evidence that multiple cuts (aside from the possibility of alternate title cards) were created for the US?

Absolutely not true. There is no such thing as a 120-minute version of Magdalena. That running time is listed on IMDB and is a total error. I believe it started when some video release had that listed on the box as the running time. The version we released is the most un-cut version of the film that there is.

[vortexx]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

Absolutely not true. There is no such thing as a 120-minute version of Magdalena. That running time is listed on IMDB and is a total error. I believe it started when some video release had that listed on the box as the running time. The version we released is the most un-cut version of the film that there is.

I doubt a film like Magdalena would have even been possible to be a 2 hour film.

[ol_Dut]

Originally Posted by Katatonia

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...58542421434304

It's nice that they've posted this. I think I like the look of the original slip better.

[Hedji]

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but the new slip is wonderful in its weirdness. They just don't make 'em like that anymore.

[Nosferatu31]

Originally Posted by Hedji

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but the new slip is wonderful in its weirdness. They just don't make 'em like that anymore.

I agree. I like it too.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Hedji

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but the new slip is wonderful in its weirdness. They just don't make 'em like that anymore.

Yeah...I don't know anything about the film but the slip is def cool.

[Dollar Colonel]

Ooh a replacement program. I like both slips.

[Hubunkey]

Got my Magdalena with screwy slip today. Might hold on to the slip and see if it becomes collectible and try and trade it for a movie lol.

I do have 1 small pet peeve with Magdalena. The slipcover and disc art have the Magdalena title, the cover has The Devils Female and then the disc menu and actual movie have the title Beyond The Darkness. I would have much more preferred altered artwork that used the Beyond The Darkness title for uniformity

[vortexx]

Originally Posted by Hubunkey

Got my Magdalena with screwy slip today. Might hold on to the slip and see if it becomes collectible and try and trade it for a movie lol.

I do have 1 small pet peeve with Magdalena. The slipcover and disc art have the Magdalena title, the cover has The Devils Female and then the disc menu and actual movie have the title Beyond The Darkness. I would have much more preferred altered artwork that used the Beyond The Darkness title for uniformity

I don't think many people associate the Beyond the Darkness title with this film, so it may not have been good from a marketing aspect.

[xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx]

DF should put this one out as a drive in release with another title. Linnea Quigley has a little role in it. It's on amazon prime in HD. Looks like they just threw a raw scan on there and didn't crop or anything.

[Erik the Mirakle Ape]

Originally Posted by Hubunkey

I do have 1 small pet peeve with Magdalena. The slipcover and disc art have the Magdalena title, the cover has The Devils Female and then the disc menu and actual movie have the title Beyond The Darkness. I would have much more preferred altered artwork that used the Beyond The Darkness title for uniformity

I'm with you on this. I'm kind'a OCD about having the cover match the on screen title. It's not really a huge deal, if it bothers me enough, i just do my best to cobble a cover together.

[indravayu]

Originally Posted by vortexx

I don't think many people associate the Beyond the Darkness title with this film, so it may not have been good from a marketing aspect.

It also would have sparked a lot of confusion with Joe D'Amato's more famous Beyond the Darkness (1979).

Magdalena is the title by which I have always known this movie.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

DF should put this one out as a drive in release with another title. Linnea Quigley has a little role in it. It's on amazon prime in HD. Looks like they just threw a raw scan on there and didn't crop or anything.

This does look good. We'll check with the guru of all cult movies, Banana Man and see what we can find out about it.