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jhiggy23 · 11-07-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by surfdude12

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Cruse has a bad acting reputation? I must have missed that memo.

I couldn't disagree with your friend more. He's my favorite active actor. He doesn't seem to be a fan of Cruise, which is fine, but suggesting he has some bad reputation (like a Keanu Reeves) is just not accurate, IMO. Of course, I'll openly admit I'm 100% biased, as I'm a huge Cruise fan and of his performance in Vanilla Sky, which is an all time favorite of mine. There are parts where his performance is eccentric, but his character and the script requires it.

Here is my take on the bad rep Vanilla Sky gets: its definitely a film you have to 100% invest in, maybe 2+ viewings. Some people (not directing this at your friend necessarily. The film is pretty polarizing, with a big chunk not liking it) don't want to invest that, so (like 2001-type films) are frustrated when they don't "get it" on a first viewing, and will put the blame somewhere.

my 2 cents

Cruise certainly does not have a bad acting reputation--he has a bad reputation. The two are distinct from one another. The people who seem to dislike Cruise most often do so because of his weird off-screen behavior. Unfortunately, some of these people automatically translate their dislike to his screen performances just for the sake of doing so. Cruise is not the best actor out there, but there's no doubt he's a high quality actor. His resume and accolades speak for itself.

As for Cruise in Vanilla Sky, it's not his best role by any means but he's not bad in it at all. I would say he's "good" in it, but it obviously does not rise to the level of some of his better performances. Love the film though.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

lol was this a blind buy from the B&N sale, or did you rent this first?

Blind buy

I hate it when this happens. Were am at it will be stupid to get NETFLIX so i just blind buy my movies. Usually i buy with Confidence with Criterion but WTF. Its all good i resell it on AMAZON and get my money back.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

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This is the most powerful drama that i've seen within the Criterion Collection. ONE HELL OF A MOVIE!

jhiggy23 · 11-07-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I find most of Malicks work to be unfocused. I think he "Develops the film as he goes along". Evidence of this would be the many scenes including prominent actors from The Thin Red Line that were left on the cutting room floor. I dont believe that he has a clear and "Precise" vision of the final product when he starts. And thats OK because he is an artist, but for me, it shows up (in a negative way) in the final work. I have no problems with films that meander and dont follow a straight path, but his feel "Destinationless". And yes, I know, some films are about the journey and not the destination, but his feel clumsy to ME.

I also believe he put a 14 year old actress into situations that were beyond her years. Bale and Farrell were in their late 20's early 30's.

Unimpressed.

As for Kilcher being put into situations with Bale and Farrell, notice that you don't see kissing or anything intimate. Also note that Pocahontas was supposed to be 12 at the time.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Fantastic film that is exceptionally acted and written, with a moving story if you pay attention to the monologue. The monologue itself makes this film special.

I'm easily entertained. But this movie was crap at all angles. I typically take in account of everything a movie has to offer. Thats why im nicked named "Generous Jack" by my friends. I wont recommend this to anyone. Wim Wenders is just a boring director it seems.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 04:52 PM

Now im watching National Geographic's Walkabout

jhiggy23 · 11-07-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

I'm easily entertained. But this movie was crap at all angles. I typically take in account of everything a movie has to offer. Thats why im nicked named "Generous Jack" by my friends. I wont recommend this to anyone. Wim Wenders is just a boring director it seems.

Boring is one thing. It's a slow moving film, so I can understand someone not being overly entertained. But it's no slower than a film like Revanche.

As for it being "crap" at all angles...that hurts credibility there because there are multiple things about the film that are objectively great, like the acting, directing, and writing.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Boring is one thing. It's a slow moving film, so I can understand someone not being overly entertained. But it's no slower than a film like Revanche.

As for it being "crap" at all angles...that hurts credibility there because there are multiple things about the film that are objectively great, like the acting, directing, and writing.

Revanche has an AMAZING story with allot of suspense, twist and turns w/ great acting and great cinematography.

The acting is great i never bashed the acting i bashed the Director, and the Story. This story is BORING i truly dont care that he was a jack*ss and now he's trying to make things right. There's no climax there's no Grit there's no relief.

Oh my credibility only matters with recommendations. If i tell someone a movie is great then they usually like it. But im not getting paid for this so who cares

iam1bearcat · 11-07-2010, 05:30 PM

alright folks, in my attempt to expand my favorites collection i'm always looking for something i haven't seen that may be close to my favorites in feel, cinematography, atmosphere, story, characters, directing... you get it. and while i can google day and night until my fingers fall off i figure i would ask you guys for help. to hopefully make this easier, the first list will be my Top 36 favorite films, in alphabetical order. the second list will be a list of films i have seen that are somewhat similar or may be something that would get mentioned, this way after people take their time and consideration i don't blow them down with "seen it, seen it, seen it, hated it, seen it".

thanks in advance for anyone who responds, it's greatly appreciated

TOP 36 FAVORITE FILMS (ALPHABETICAL ORDER)

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OTHER SIMILAR FILMS THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN (WITH SCORES NO LESS!)

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jhiggy23 · 11-07-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

alright folks, in my attempt to expand my favorites collection i'm always looking for something i haven't seen that may be close to my favorites in feel, cinematography, atmosphere, story, characters, directing... you get it. and while i can google day and night until my fingers fall off i figure i would ask you guys for help. to hopefully make this easier, the first list will be my Top 36 favorite films, in alphabetical order. the second list will be a list of films i have seen that are somewhat similar or may be something that would get mentioned, this way after people take their time and consideration i don't blow them down with "seen it, seen it, seen it, hated it, seen it".

thanks in advance for anyone who responds, it's greatly appreciated

TOP 36 FAVORITE FILMS (ALPHABETICAL ORDER)

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OTHER SIMILAR FILMS THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN (WITH SCORES NO LESS!)

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Your scores for Atonement, Diving Bell, Bicycle Thief, and Gattaca hurt

iam1bearcat · 11-07-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Your scores for Atonement, Diving Bell, Bicycle Thief, and Gattaca hurt

my apologies jhiggy. just remember that when you see those scores, and a little piece of you dies, that i thoroughly enjoyed and love The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, so that should even it out

Steve46 · 11-07-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

alright folks, in my attempt to expand my favorites collection i'm always looking for something i haven't seen that may be close to my favorites in feel, cinematography, atmosphere, story, characters, directing... you get it. and while i can google day and night until my fingers fall off i figure i would ask you guys for help. to hopefully make this easier, the first list will be my Top 36 favorite films, in alphabetical order. the second list will be a list of films i have seen that are somewhat similar or may be something that would get mentioned, this way after people take their time and consideration i don't blow them down with "seen it, seen it, seen it, hated it, seen it".

thanks in advance for anyone who responds, it's greatly appreciated

TOP 36 FAVORITE FILMS (ALPHABETICAL ORDER)

[Show spoiler]

OTHER SIMILAR FILMS THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN (WITH SCORES NO LESS!)

[Show spoiler]

We should do stuff like this more often.

You seem to have a very diverse taste and appreciate complex movies, as well as a lot of other stuff.

21 Grams - has similar elements to Babel (same director) and Magnolia.

Vicky Cristina Barcelona (similar feel to Closer).

Lost Highway (Lynch - closest to Mulholland Dr.).

Blue Velvet (more Lynch).

Any Hayao Miyazaki based on your love of Pixar - Kiki's Delivery Service, Ponyo, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, My Neighbor Totoro and Sprited Away are all 5/5 and I'm really curious to see what you think.

Grave of the Fireflies - no reason other than it's an animated masterpiece.

Taken - good action fun with a real actor (blows Collateral away).

Amelie - just great, not because of your faves. Full of detail, humor, quirky stories and Audrey Tautou.

I assume you have seen The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile? Same director as The Mist. Better films and stronger acting.

Vertigo - complex plot, great acting, classic Hitchcock.

Chungking Express - quirky Criterion goodness.

Doubt - story sounds boring, but it isn't. Great acting all round.

The Pursuit of Happyness - You gave Seven Pounds 4.5 and this is the same director and an even better performance from Will Smith.

The Reader - set in Germany - Winslet is superb.

12 Monkeys - You seem to like Gilliam.

Marcus Wright · 11-07-2010, 06:07 PM

My favorite 10 movies.
May not be the best place to share with but I wanted to share it a lot.

In this order.

1) Terminator 2
2) Ratatouille
3) Avatar
4) Wall-E
5) Dumb and Dumber
6) Ip Man
7) Sunshine
8) Toy Story 3
9) Terminator Salvation
10) Monster Inc/Up

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

alright folks, in my attempt to expand my favorites collection i'm always looking for something i haven't seen that may be close to my favorites in feel, cinematography, atmosphere, story, characters, directing... you get it. and while i can google day and night until my fingers fall off i figure i would ask you guys for help. to hopefully make this easier, the first list will be my Top 36 favorite films, in alphabetical order. the second list will be a list of films i have seen that are somewhat similar or may be something that would get mentioned, this way after people take their time and consideration i don't blow them down with "seen it, seen it, seen it, hated it, seen it".

thanks in advance for anyone who responds, it's greatly appreciated

TOP 36 FAVORITE FILMS (ALPHABETICAL ORDER)

[Show spoiler]

OTHER SIMILAR FILMS THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN (WITH SCORES NO LESS!)

[Show spoiler]

Hey you're the only person that i've seen that liked Phone Booth and Seven Pounds

But you are crazy about these

The Shining (Yet it did have its boring moments)
A Clockwork Orange
The Godfather
Benjamin Button
No Country for Old Men

KilloWertz · 11-07-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve46

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I second the votes on Taken and The Pursuit of Happiness. Taken is pretty bad-ass.

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

My favorite 10 movies.
May not be the best place to share with but I wanted to share it a lot.

In this order.

1) Terminator 2
2) Ratatouille
3) Avatar
4) Wall-E
5) Dumb and Dumber
6) Ip Man
7) Sunshine
8) Toy Story 3
9) Terminator Salvation
10) Monster Inc/Up

Hey were's the life altering films at bro. The drama's and thriller's?

Marcus Wright · 11-07-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

Hey were's the life altering films at bro. The drama's and thriller's?

jhiggy23 · 11-07-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

my apologies jhiggy. just remember that when you see those scores, and a little piece of you dies, that i thoroughly enjoyed and love The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, so that should even it out

lDlisturb3d · 11-07-2010, 06:13 PM

Taken vs Collateral????
Taken is more entertaining because of the story but Tom Cruise in Collateral would eat Liam Nelson alive. His character was real! I've met plenny of Spec Op guys and tons of CIA agents and Tom Cruise's character was on point.

My favorite scene is when he lays into the thugs in the alley. That sh!t was so realistic!!!!!!!

Steve46 · 11-07-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

Taken vs Collateral????
Taken is more entertaining because of the story but Tom Cruise in Collateral would eat Liam Nelson alive. His character was real! I've met plenny of Spec Op guys and tons of CIA agents and Tom Cruise's character was on point.

My favorite scene is when he lays into the thugs in the alley. That sh!t was so realistic!!!!!!!

I own both and like both, but I prefer Taken.

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11-07-2010, 04:52 PM	#12686
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	Now im watching National Geographic's Walkabout

11-07-2010, 05:30 PM	#12689
iam1bearcat Blu-ray Knight Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Club Loop Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:54 DVD collection:28 Trading Score:29	alright folks, in my attempt to expand my favorites collection i'm always looking for something i haven't seen that may be close to my favorites in feel, cinematography, atmosphere, story, characters, directing... you get it. and while i can google day and night until my fingers fall off i figure i would ask you guys for help. to hopefully make this easier, the first list will be my Top 36 favorite films, in alphabetical order. the second list will be a list of films i have seen that are somewhat similar or may be something that would get mentioned, this way after people take their time and consideration i don't blow them down with "seen it, seen it, seen it, hated it, seen it". thanks in advance for anyone who responds, it's greatly appreciated TOP 36 FAVORITE FILMS (ALPHABETICAL ORDER) [Show spoiler] OTHER SIMILAR FILMS THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN (WITH SCORES NO LESS!) [Show spoiler]

11-07-2010, 06:07 PM	#12693
Marcus Wright Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2010 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:143 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:23	My favorite 10 movies. May not be the best place to share with but I wanted to share it a lot. In this order. 1) Terminator 2 2) Ratatouille 3) Avatar 4) Wall-E 5) Dumb and Dumber 6) Ip Man 7) Sunshine 8) Toy Story 3 9) Terminator Salvation 10) Monster Inc/Up

11-07-2010, 06:13 PM	#12699
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	Taken vs Collateral???? Taken is more entertaining because of the story but Tom Cruise in Collateral would eat Liam Nelson alive. His character was real! I've met plenny of Spec Op guys and tons of CIA agents and Tom Cruise's character was on point. My favorite scene is when he lays into the thugs in the alley. That sh!t was so realistic!!!!!!!

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