Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Angel Eyes

Hopefully the OT and not all that flying around in the PT

I'm guessing it will be a mix of the two, since Luke or Leia have presumably been training new Jedi for the last 30 years.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I'm guessing it will be a mix of the two, since Luke or Leia have presumably been training new Jedi for the last 30 years.

If Leia does any back flips or bounces off a wall I will rip my seat out of the floor and charge the screen.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

If Leia does any back flips or bounces off a wall I will rip my seat out of the floor and charge the screen.

In excitement or rage?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The show is all over the place, timeline wise. When I first started watching the show after having seen the CW movie a year or two earlier and they went to Cristophsis (the crystal planet), I was like "huh?". But when I settled into it and realised that the fractured time-lines were by design (almost like prequels within a prequel) I just went with the flow and enjoyed it a lot more. It's damned dark for a kiddie show, although be warned that there is some Jar Jar too, just in case people were missing his "hilarious" bumbling.

To be perfectly honest, if you can't stand S1 then I'd just start at S6, the "Lost Missions". The animation's better and there's not much there that relies on previous CW eps and - stop me if you've heard this already - it fills in a TON of unanswered questions, not just between Clones and Sith but for the prequel trilogy as a whole and even the OT to some extent (like force ghosts).

It's weird to hear it called plot heavy since the first set of episodes I watched had almost no plot to them at all. I dunno. Maybe I can just try a later episode just to see if the quality is improved even if I don't understand the story.

I'm the type of idiot who would get the $100 complete set if I thought I'd like it, but those first few episodes... eugh.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's weird to hear it called plot heavy since the first set of episodes I watched had almost no plot to them at all. I dunno. Maybe I can just try a later episode just to see if the quality is improved even if I don't understand the story.

I'm the type of idiot who would get the $100 complete set if I thought I'd like it, but those first few episodes... eugh.

Season 1, and a good portion of season 2, are rough. Really rough. Season 1 is hard to get through. But the payoff of getting through it when you get to the later seasons is completely worth it. The storytelling becomes great, and honestly, makes the prequels stronger films in the process. I love a lot of what Filoni and his crew did there, and I'm glad they learned from a lot of that with Rebels, because it started off much stronger than The Clone Wars did. The animation may not be for everyone, but the stories are really well done and worth checking out.

[captveg]

You know, if Furious 7 can make $1.1 billion in 17 days, I gotta think that SW:TFA - with much less quality of competition in Dec-Jan than F7 is about to face - has no problem making $2 billion.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by captveg

You know, if Furious 7 can make $1.1 billion in 17 days, I gotta think that SW:TFA - with much less quality of competition in Dec-Jan than F7 is about to face - has no problem making $2 billion.

Someone in the TFA cast needs to take one for team Disney and die tragically before Dec 18.

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Someone in the TFA cast needs to take one for team Disney and die tragically before Dec 18.

Harrison tried. Are we sure it was an accident?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Someone in the TFA cast needs to take one for team Disney and die tragically before Dec 18.

Nah, this has quality on its side.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's weird to hear it called plot heavy since the first set of episodes I watched had almost no plot to them at all. I dunno. Maybe I can just try a later episode just to see if the quality is improved even if I don't understand the story.

I'm the type of idiot who would get the $100 complete set if I thought I'd like it, but those first few episodes... eugh.

Well, like a lot of shows it takes a while to get going. And with it being a kid's show first and foremost, some of the early stuff ("sky guy") is eye-rolling bad, but I can still remember the moment when it really captured my attention and made me think there's more to it than just selling toys: there's an episode (or episodes) where Yoda is stuck on a planet with a group of clone troopers, and as they get killed off one by one they contemplate their duty, what it means to be a soldier etc.

It was so refreshing to see Star Wars from the grunt's-eye view (instead of just the all-powerful Jedi) and it became a fundamental part of the series, often touching on the ethical implications of breeding an army to order. There's political intrigue on Mandalore, and not the boring prequel kind of intrigue, but a faction of bloodthirsty warriors looking to oust the peacenik ruling class. It's not all serious though, there was a terrific tribute to Godzilla in one episode and lots of other movie references scattered throughout, like the obligatory Magnificent Seven episode and so on.

I've never had a problem with the animation either. It gets a lot of stick for being so stiff but what did people expect, Pixar quality every week? And they updated the character models a few seasons in so it does get a bit more expressive and textured as the series goes on.

I do like Clone Wars. A lot.

[dvdmike]

Since The Raid guys are involved will JJ let them get close to this:

[Geoff D]

Meh. I wasn't that impressed with the action in Raid 2, too much jiggling of the damned camera. The Raid was awesome though.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Meh. I wasn't that impressed with the action in Raid 2, too much jiggling of the damned camera. The Raid was awesome though.

I will take this


Over this

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I will take this
Over this

A pair of 2 second shots and the hyperbole kicks in like the entire duel was like that. Got it.

[stvn1974]

We need to cut down on the prequel bashing even when discussing things we hope are different in TFA or the same members will tattle to teacher like last time and get the posts removed.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

A pair of 2 second shots and the hyperbole kicks in like the entire duel was like that. Got it.

Are you always on?

[coolkev1701]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I will take this


Over this

Man, Obi-wan and Anakin are couple of show off's if there ever were any.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Who will fight him?
We don't even know if there will be a fight.

Agreed. Obviously we can't rule out a major set-piece duel but I don't think we can count on one either.

[Noahishere]

Will Star Wars still be a major thing 40 years from now when we are all old men and our kids are our age right now?

[Himmel]

Rumored Details on the New Planet Jakku from The Force Awakens!

[Show spoiler]Jakku was a wasteland with no population/settlements until around 40 years ago when the star destroyers we see in the trailer crash landed after a nearby space battle. The surviving crew became deserted and set up a colony. The crew were the first settlers on the planet. The battle of Endor took place around the same time as the 'battle of Jakku.' As a result of the second Death Star's destruction and the death of Vader and Palpatine, the empire was in disarray and did not have the time and resources for a rescue mission. Max Von Sydow was the Moff/Admiral/Commanding officer of the Star Destroyer we see in the beginning of the trailer and now acts as the de facto leader of the civilization. He is mad at the empire for leaving them stranded so he has no loyalty to the First Order. He helps out Rey and gives Finn information/evidence about the empire (they're evil) that finalizes his decision to desert. The planet attracts pirates, scavengers, scum, villainy, etc. because of the looting potential of the ship graveyard, so it has become the 'new' Tattooine and Mos Eisley.

Kylo Ren info.

[Show spoiler]Kylo Ren. The first six movies have plenty of religious metaphors - the savior, virgin birth, prophecies, etc. The religious theme of VII mirrors the state of the church during the dark ages. For example, Kylo Ren's saber resembles the broadswords that crusader's are famous for using. In real life, there were plenty of false idols - many people claiming to be the second coming of Christ. Similarly, Kylo Ren is (falsely) claiming to be Vader. He is a controversial figure among the First Order. More and more people are starting to believe he is actually Vader because of the 'miracles' he performs (him using the force). He has a sizeable and cult like faction of the First Order following him by the start of VII. Ren makes a power grab to gain more power in the First Order. He uses violence and fear to get this power. Finn was okay with how the First Order was operating, but after realizing the evil Ren's coming to power is inevitable, he quits.

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