I thought tuesdays episode was kind of weak. Luckily I heard that someone thats seen all the episodes said the 2nd episode is definitely the weakest so thats a good sign. They also said episode 4 is every solid.
I thought tuesdays episode was kind of weak. Luckily I heard that someone thats seen all the episodes said the 2nd episode is definitely the weakest so thats a good sign. They also said episode 4 is every solid.
Next week's episode looks like it might be ok. I dont remember the guys name but he was in the SWAT, and he is guest starring next week. Well see. Got Em!!
I liked the second episode, yes it wasn't nearly as good as the series premiere, but the show is bound to get a lot better as time goes by.
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A review of the second episode of "Justified" coming up just as soon as I talk to a one-time exotic dancer...
Of the four episodes of "Justified" I've seen, "Riverbrook" was definitely the weakest of the bunch - not bad, but a definite comedown from the thrills, chills and laughs of the pilot, and not as strong at working without an Elmore Leonard safety net as the third or (particularly) fourth episode.
Again, you can't underestimate how big an issue that is. Graham Yost borrowed large chunks of Leonard's dialogue from "Fire in the Hole" for the pilot, and while I think it would have been folly to try creating Leonard soundalike dialogue going forward(*), there's definitely less snap to a lot of the banter in this one.
(*) Jason Smilovic and company did okay with that on "Karen Sisco," but in general Leonard's authorial voice is so distinctive that a bad imitator would stick out much worse than not trying to copy him at all.
There were still some very funny moments, like the party guest calling for "Freebird," or Art giving Raylan a hard time about losing his gun, badge and hat to Cooper the bank robber. And some cool running gags, too, like Tim the ex-sniper telling Raylan about he learned to create "stories" about each of his potential targets, until the idea caused some snipers (and, it's implied, him) to have some killer's remorse, which led to the great payoff where Tim described his story about Dupree: "Yeah, if he does anything out of line, I get to shoot him."
My problem with the episode, I think, came largely from the Cooper/Dupree/Shirley side of things. Given the nature of a Marshal's job, and the way that Leonard himself structures most of his stories, the bad guys have to be as important to every story as the good guys. And that can work if Raylan's quarry is played by someone as instantly-colorful as Walton Goggins (who returns briefly as Boyd at the top), or if the writing for the guest characters is really spot on (as it is in the fourth episode). But Cooper was never a compelling enough character for me to want to spend long stretches of the episode with him, and away from Raylan. Tim Olyphant sets such a high bar that the show is going to need to be really smart with how it writes and casts the guest stars, or else the show is going to tip heavily to one side.
(That, or they'll need to rethink how they apportion screen time, and that has its own pitfalls; if we're not in any way invested in Raylan's targets, then things get repetitive.)
I liked last nights episode a little more than Riverbrook but the show has definitely changed a lot in the style of Raylan's calm cool dialogue very noticeably since the series premiere. I hope they can figure a way to bring it back. Wonder how the ratings where, nothing posted yet.
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A quick review of tonight's "Justified" coming up just as soon as I second-guess your neck hair...
FX actually sent "Fixer" out for review a few weeks after I'd watched the 1st, 2nd and 4th episodes, and there's always the worry that the odd episode out was held back because it wasn't very good. But I'm told the issues here were just post-production-related, and I found "Fixer" to be quite a bit stronger than last week's "Riverbrook."
As with the Elmore Leonard books (and the many crime authors influenced by Leonard), the style is going to be to split the action between Raylan and his quarry. I didn't think it worked last week because the bank robber and his motley gang weren't all that interesting. I liked this combo of inept, backstabbing thieves much more, particularly David Eigenberg as the titular fixer and Page Kennedy as one of those classic Leonard-style bad guys who becomes obsessed with living up to some pop cultural ideal of violence (in this case, dying because he's too distracted trying to prove himself as a quick draw artist).
The parallels between the Fixer and Raylan in their desires to get out of town, ASAP, weren't overdone, and the theme gave us some extended quality time with an off-duty Raylan flirting with, and eventually succumbing to the charms of, the lovely Ava. I like to joke that Timothy Olyphant plays every role like he can't wait to put a bullet through his co-stars, but he's doing very well in Raylan's more relaxed, charming and, yes, romantic moments.
One question: this is now two bodies that Raylan's dropped in three episodes (and he just barely avoided killing Body). Are you okay if the series maintains (or even accelerates) this body count rate? It's one thing for Raylan to get chewed out for his supervisors about this over the course of three books published many years apart, but as an ongoing part of a weekly series? I don't mind it (certainly, plenty of TV show heroes have racked up an even bigger/faster kill rate), but I wonder if anyone does.
Some minor spoiler comments and an update on Walton Goggins character Boyd Crowder appearing on the show again.
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Question: Got any Justified scoops? —Ava
Ausiello: Try this on for size: Timothy Olyphant’s Raylan will soon find himself on the wrong end of a bullet. One of his female admirers, meanwhile, will find herself on the right side of his bed.
Question: I noticed that currently one of your five favorite TV shows is Justified on FX. Can you give us scoop on whether or not Walton Goggins will be a series regular? —Erin
Ausiello: I don’t think we can technically call him a series regular, but we’ll be seeing a lot more of him beginning April 20.
These ratings, damn! Come on people wtf happened to you?
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FX's 'Justified' slips again
Is FX's "Justified" all hat and no cattle? The third episode of "Justified" fell yet again -- down 34% from last week. That's an even bigger than the drop from its debut to its second episode. "Justified" drew 2.3 million viewers and a 0.9 rating. FX points out that the decline from the premiere to Ep. 2 was only 9% once you factored at all the repeats, so maybe by next week this gap will be smaller too.
Last edited by WyldeMan45; 04-01-2010 at 07:30 AM.
Well i think im the first to say it but i was really disappointed. i love EL work and movies but this show just didnt do it for me. after i watched the first episode i canceled my DVD recordings. See im a really big fan of Micheal Mann and how his characters really know how to use a gun. The good guys in this show are supposed to be trained federal agents but they sure dont act like it. for example, the scene in the first one with the shootout with the guys in the pickup on the road. it just felt weak and slapsticky. the agents run around behind their suv to get more guns. while the bad guns open up on them with rifles that would easily go thur suv door and windows but they dont get hit. then the "sniper" asks if he should kill them? then just wounds them! come on! these men are trying to kill you and you just wound them on purpose? not realistic! then the black lady sneaks around behind them and points two guns at them. what is that about? these guys are shooting at federal agents and you just say "drop it!" wrong wrong wrong
another example: when the redneck gets the shotgun out of his trunk to go shoot the "hero". what cop or federal agent wouldnt pull his weapon and drop the guy in an instant. what if it was already loaded? hero didnt know for sure he hadnt chambered a round.
and then when hero and main bg are having dinner. bg has a gun on hero and tells hero to put down the shotgun. then bg lays down his pistol to eat. bg is a wanted fugitive. Hero should have pulled his sidearm and taken him into custody.
see where im going with this? not true to life cops! i cant stand shows like that.
Some minor spoiler comments and an update on Walton Goggins character Boyd Crowder appearing on the show again.
[Show spoiler]
These ratings, damn! Come on people wtf happened to you?
I am not surprised by the ratings maybe because it's on FX but also and I know I am in the minority on this but I really can't get into this show yet. It surprises me because I like a lot of the same shows you do WyldeMan but I can't get into this show. Nothing has hit me yet where I have to make this must watch TV like I am with Breaking Bad. I just don't think there is anything spectacular about this show. I will keep watching and maybe it will hit me like Spartucus did after a few episodes.
Well i think im the first to say it but i was really disappointed. i love EL work and movies but this show just didnt do it for me. after i watched the first episode i canceled my DVD recordings. See im a really big fan of Micheal Mann and how his characters really know how to use a gun. The good guys in this show are supposed to be trained federal agents but they sure dont act like it. for example, the scene in the first one with the shootout with the guys in the pickup on the road. it just felt weak and slapsticky. the agents run around behind their suv to get more guns. while the bad guns open up on them with rifles that would easily go thur suv door and windows but they dont get hit. then the "sniper" asks if he should kill them? then just wounds them! come on! these men are trying to kill you and you just wound them on purpose? not realistic! then the black lady sneaks around behind them and points two guns at them. what is that about? these guys are shooting at federal agents and you just say "drop it!" wrong wrong wrong
another example: when the redneck gets the shotgun out of his trunk to go shoot the "hero". what cop or federal agent wouldnt pull his weapon and drop the guy in an instant. what if it was already loaded? hero didnt know for sure he hadnt chambered a round.
and then when hero and main bg are having dinner. bg has a gun on hero and tells hero to put down the shotgun. then bg lays down his pistol to eat. bg is a wanted fugitive. Hero should have pulled his sidearm and taken him into custody.
see where im going with this? not true to life cops! i cant stand shows like that.
not a fan!
Apparently you are not a fan of westerns, and don't understand the entire feeling and style they are going for here. You want the same cop show over and over and over following the exact same formula. Something tells me you watch a lot of CBS at night and TNT in the daytime. Oh yeah you hate not true to life cop shows but you love Michael Mann? As in Michael Mann and Miami Vice, where the Sonny Crockett drove 2 different Ferraris throughout the show, wore armani to work, lived on an $120,000 sailboat and also a $130,000 Scarab speed boat and had a pet alligator on these boats? And to you that is realistic? Interesting....
Last edited by WyldeMan45; 04-01-2010 at 07:17 PM.
Is it just me or did the pilot feel somewhat different than episodes 2 & 3? Especially the latest ep didn't fit the tone that was set in the pilot at all in my opinion. Felt too much like a standard crime procedural to me, although it was still significantly better than any of those.
I liked it a lot at first, still do actually, but I'm not sure it's enough to keep me watching if it's always going to be like the latest installment from now on. Which admittedly was packed with excellent dialogue again. That alone merits a couple of more episodes to decide whether I'll keep watching or not.
Is it just me or did the pilot feel somewhat different than episodes 2 & 3? Especially the latest ep didn't fit the tone that was set in the pilot at all in my opinion. Felt too much like a standard crime procedural to me, although it was still significantly better than any of those.
I liked it a lot at first, still do actually, but I'm not sure it's enough to keep me watching if it's always going to be like the latest installment from now on. Which admittedly was packed with excellent dialogue again. That alone merits a couple of more episodes to decide whether I'll keep watching or not.
The pilot's dialogue was borrowed from Elmore Leonard's short story that the show is based on. The rest of the episodes after have been written from scratch. That is why there is a difference in the dialogue.
The pilot's dialogue was borrowed from Elmore Leonard's short story that the show is based on. The rest of the episodes after have been written from scratch. That is why there is a difference in the dialogue.
I know, and I actually didn't mean the dialogue. In fact I thought they did a good job with that in the other two episodes. The pilot however seemed to set up a show more serialized rather than having a new case he's got to handle every week. I just wonder if this will indeed turn out to be a lot different than what the first episode seemed to set up, at least the way I perceived it. If there's gonna be new bad guys every week and he'll end up shooting them every time, it isn't exactly what I was hoping for.
I know, and I actually didn't mean the dialogue. In fact I thought they did a good job with that in the other two episodes. The pilot however seemed to set up a show more serialized rather than having a new case he's got to handle every week. I just wonder if this will indeed turn out to be a lot different than what the first episode seemed to set up, at least the way I perceived it. If there's gonna be new bad guys every week and he'll end up shooting them every time, it isn't exactly what I was hoping for.
Thats true I wasn't really hoping for a dark walker texas ranger where he out guns someone every week lol.
I dont know man, I aint feelin this show to much. I dont think its my cup of tea. The first episode was easily the best but the last 2 just havnt been good. I will give it anotha episode or 2 but I think I may be bailin on this show real soon if things dont turn around! Got Em!!
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I wasn't really hoping for a dark walker texas ranger 
where he out guns someone every week lol.
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