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Old 06-30-2010, 11:09 PM   #121
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I have speakers hooked up obviously...

Which setting do I set it up to watch movies?Dolby Pro Logic or Dolby Movie settings?

And when I hook up my ethernet cord I cant get the internet radio to set up...any input? Ive already tried the obvious things in the set up from the menu settings...but when choosing a radio station it says the internets not working...
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:52 PM   #122
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I have speakers hooked up obviously...

Which setting do I set it up to watch movies?Dolby Pro Logic or Dolby Movie settings?

And when I hook up my ethernet cord I cant get the internet radio to set up...any input? Ive already tried the obvious things in the set up from the menu settings...but when choosing a radio station it says the internets not working...
Which ever audio mode sounds best to you.
Just experiment with all of them.

* Did you set your Internet provider, your IP address, your DNS, your DHCP, your Proxy setting, your Cookie setting, your Network throughput, your NTP Sever setting, your MAC address, your System device management and all that sh*t correctly?
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:39 PM   #123
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I have a question here. Althugh I have connected 7.1 speakers with my 920 however by all means (after reading manual and different adjustments) i am unbale toturn off back speakers and thet stay on all the time.

What i means that whatever blu-ray movie i play, i always hear from back speakers even if i play 5.1, i still hear surround sound from back speakers. I trun off Up/Mix function, back speakers on SB auto but i still hear voice from back spearkers. I even turn off SB=Off and still i hear aound from back speakers.

I need that if i play 5.1 audio blu-ray, i should hear 5.1 sound not 7.1 and when i play 7.1 then surround back speakers should automatically get on and should deliver sound. What should i do to get this setup.
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Old 07-02-2010, 04:46 PM   #124
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I have a question here. Althugh I have connected 7.1 speakers with my 920 however by all means (after reading manual and different adjustments) i am unbale toturn off back speakers and thet stay on all the time.

What i means that whatever blu-ray movie i play, i always hear from back speakers even if i play 5.1, i still hear surround sound from back speakers. I trun off Up/Mix function, back speakers on SB auto but i still hear voice from back spearkers. I even turn off SB=Off and still i hear aound from back speakers.

I need that if i play 5.1 audio blu-ray, i should hear 5.1 sound not 7.1 and when i play 7.1 then surround back speakers should automatically get on and should deliver sound. What should i do to get this setup.
Try using the Stream Direct modes (button on remote that says Auto/Direct), and select "Direct." This should provide the truest reproduction of a source without any matrixing into add'l channels while still applying your MCACC settings. Also, don't select SB = Off....because when you actually play a blu with a 7.1 audio soundtrack, your rear surrounds won't produce any sound. Just leave it at it's default setting, "On".

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Old 07-02-2010, 09:56 PM   #125
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Try using the Stream Direct modes (button on remote that says Auto/Direct), and select "Direct." This should provide the truest reproduction of a source without any matrixing into add'l channels while still applying your MCACC settings. Also, don't select SB = Off....because when you actually play a blu with a 7.1 audio soundtrack, your rear surrounds won't produce any sound. Just leave it at it's default setting, "On".
I did use Direct mode and all SB options but still i hear sound from rear back speakers, dont know where is the problem.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:57 AM   #126
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OK, thank you I got it now. SB=ON, use "Direct" and up/mix should be turned off and then one can get pure channels either 5.1 or 7.1 depending on number of channels on the blu-ray movie. If up/mix stays on then sound still comes from rear back channels.
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Old 07-04-2010, 07:24 AM   #127
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Ditto.
* Crossovers: any speakers that have a 6.5" driver (Mid/Woof), I would set the x-over at 80 Hx or so (perhaps 90 Hz). My speakers (Front mains) are flat to 25 Hz, and I still set them to small with a x-over at 80 Hz.
My Center and Side Surrounds are also set to 80 Hz (they all have a 6.5" mid/woof; the center, two).
For speakers having a 5.5" driver or so, I'd set the x-over at 100 Hz (120 Hz max.) I set mine to 100 Hz (Back Surrounds).
Anything smaller, 150 Hz. But the sad thing is that anything over 100 Hz or so, you can tell where the bass is coming from (the sub).

* Separate channel levels: Adjust to taste.

*** But Advanced MCACC is the real deal.
How can you adjust frequency for your front, center and surround speakers? I understand that crossover frequency is to set frequency only for your sub and less than that shall be distributed to your speakers, is that not right?
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:19 PM   #128
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How can you adjust frequency for your front, center and surround speakers? I understand that crossover frequency is to set frequency only for your sub and less than that shall be distributed to your speakers, is that not right?
Well, many receivers (but not all), from their Speaker Setup Menu, allow you to set different x-overs 'separately' for your two front main (pair), your center, your side surround (pair), and your back surround (pair) speakers. So for example, you can set your two front mains at 60 Hz, your center at 80 Hz, your side surrounds at 90 Hz and your rear surrounds at 100 Hz (this is only an example). Then the bass from all these channels below the x-over point of each pair of speakers plus your center speaker will be redirected to your subwoofer in addition to the LFE (Low Frequency Effect) channel (the .1 from the 5.1/6.1 or 7.1-channel audio).
* The LFE channel has up to a maximum of 120 Hz audio information.

And the Low Pass Filter of your own sub(s) should be set to it's "Bypass" mode or if not avail, to its highest LPF setting.

But some receivers only give you the choice of few x-overs, but it applies to ALL your speakers.
It is a 'global' x-over.

Last edited by LordoftheRings; 07-04-2010 at 05:25 PM. Reason: 'Separate' or 'Global' crossover.
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Old 07-04-2010, 08:47 PM   #129
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How can you adjust frequency for your front, center and surround speakers? I understand that crossover frequency is to set frequency only for your sub and less than that shall be distributed to your speakers, is that not right?
If I understand your question correctly and assuming you are using the usual powered subwoofer, I think you have it backwards. When you set speakers to small, which engages bass management, the receiver reroutes frequencies below the crossover to the sub instead of sending them to the speakers. The sub gets LFE (the .1 effects channel) plus the rerouted deep bass from the main speakers. The bass management crossover doesn't set any frequencies for the sub. The sub plays whatever you send it. Rather, the crossover determines what frequencies get rerouted from the main speakers to the sub.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:40 PM   #130
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Some more questions:

1. In order to reproduce pure 5.1 or 7.1 as per the channels in the movie, is it necessary to keep MCACC on and set auto/surr to 'direct' and SB=on. What if i keep MCACC to off? Shall i be able to get rid of back speakers while playing 5.1, i mean i don't want to mix surround to back speakers while playing 5.1, sound should come from back only when there is 7.1

2. I have noticed that when i set MCACC/EQ to off position i get better treble/shrill/crisp sound from all speakers and as soon i set MCACC/EQ to on, i get little dull (less treble) sound from all speakers. Why is that?
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Some more questions:

1. In order to reproduce pure 5.1 or 7.1 as per the channels in the movie, is it necessary to keep MCACC on and set auto/surr to 'direct' and SB=on. What if i keep MCACC to off? Shall i be able to get rid of back speakers while playing 5.1, i mean i don't want to mix surround to back speakers while playing 5.1, sound should come from back only when there is 7.1

2. I have noticed that when i set MCACC/EQ to off position i get better treble/shrill/crisp sound from all speakers and as soon i set MCACC/EQ to on, i get little dull (less treble) sound from all speakers. Why is that?
seriously guys i am unable to switch of surround back speakers while playing 5.1 contents, what possibly i am missing in setup. Little help shall be appreciated.
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:42 AM   #132
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seriously guys i am unable to switch of surround back speakers while playing 5.1 contents, what possibly i am missing in setup. Little help shall be appreciated.
First, MCACC or Advanced MCACC does not have anything to do with the number of channels actually playing.

* Now, to disable your two Back surround speakers, it has to be in the Audio mode you selected, or one of the setup in your Pioneer receiver.
Take your time to analyse the situation and you'll find out how.

By the way, sorry if I forgot, but which Pioneer receiver model is yours?

And as for why you prefer MCACC off instead of on, it's a personal choice in your own particular room and particular system setup. There are a zillion of reasons...

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First, MCACC or Advanced MCACC does not have anything to do with the number of channels actually playing.

* Now, to disable your two Back surround speakers, it has to be in the Audio mode you selected, or one of the setup in your Pioneer receiver.
Take your time to analyse the situation and you'll find out how.

What do you mean by this, is there no any proper procedure that i get 5.1 from 5.1 source instead of getting 71.

By the way, sorry if I forgot, but which Pioneer receiver model is yours? My receiver is 920

And as for why you prefer MCACC off instead of on, it's a personal choice in your own particular room and particular system setup. There are a zillion of reasons...
sure i shall keep MCACC on all the time.

Please write some lines on procedure on how to get 5.1 only from 5.1 source and not 7.1. 7.1 should be on only when i use 7.1 source.

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sure i shall keep MCACC on all the time.

Please write some lines on procedure on how to get 5.1 only from 5.1 source and not 7.1. 7.1 should be on only when i use 7.1 source.

Thanks

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Well, first, I don't own any recent Pioneer receivers (I do have an older one though), and I feel too lazy right now to download the manual (of yours) and read it, sorry mate!

* But my guess is that perhaps your BD player is not set properly (is it a Panasonic one?), or maybe your Pioneer receiver as an "Auto" audio mode for playing the audio soundtracks as they are originally recorded on the discs.

** Or perhaps, you have your two Back surround speakers engaged for Zone 2?

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Have you tried Direct mode? You can choose this simply by clicking on the Auto/Direct button on the remote. Using Direct should allow you to hear your audio sources as the way they were intended to be without any matrixing. Leave your SB as "On". This is the default setting and is not the reason you are getting 7.1 playback from 5.1 sources. It is your Listening Mode.

EDIT: I see you did try this, so disregard.......

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seriously guys i am unable to switch of surround back speakers while playing 5.1 contents, what possibly i am missing in setup. Little help shall be appreciated.
Let me ask this....what do you mean you are unable to switch the surround back speakers when playing 5.1? Are you saying you are still getting 7 channel palyback with 5 channel sources?
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I have a quick question:

Should my Pioneer receiver be set to
Pure Direct
Direct
Auto Surround

I have it on Pure Direct right now because I think it sounds the best - but is it the natural sound? Also, phase control was on earlier today and it sounded low and muffled.. Is it like a night-time mode?
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Let me ask this....what do you mean you are unable to switch the surround back speakers when playing 5.1? Are you saying you are still getting 7 channel palyback with 5 channel sources?
yes, even if is play 5.1 movie i still hear sound from my rear speakers as if mixing the surround sound to back speakers. i have read manual, tried all options but one thing is that i am not using blu-ray player i am using HTPC having TMT3.180 with Asus xonar HDAV 1.3 slim sound card.
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I have a quick question:

Should my Pioneer receiver be set to
Pure Direct
Direct
Auto Surround

I have it on Pure Direct right now because I think it sounds the best - but is it the natural sound? Also, phase control was on earlier today and it sounded low and muffled.. Is it like a night-time mode?
only with auto surround and Direct, phase will work and with pure direct, phase does not work. I use direct.
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yes, even if is play 5.1 movie i still hear sound from my rear speakers as if mixing the surround sound to back speakers. i have read manual, tried all options but one thing is that i am not using blu-ray player i am using HTPC having TMT3.180 with Asus xonar HDAV 1.3 slim sound card.
Honestly guys, i dont know what has happened to my receiver (VSX-920-k)as it is giving me back speaker audio all the time whether i put 5.1 or 7.1, it does not matter. I tried "direct", SB=on, SB=Auto, SB=off, up/mix=off, it does not matter. It seems that my receiver has some problem, is it possible? or something is wrong in my HTPC. I tried even "reset", but still back speaker is on.

Does pioneer has any support so that i can write to them for my problem?
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