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Old 06-30-2015, 11:27 AM   #121
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I agree with that... They had something they could have fleshed out and been a culmination of all the games, possibly even explaining everything thats going on with all these games... Instead we just hip-pity hop from one story to the next lol.
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I guess if Ubisoft kept to it's original plan of Desmonds arc over 6 games culminating with him becoming the "ultimate Assassin" having learnt all the skills from his ancestors then we could have seen some pretty cool present day stuff. But as it is they decided to break away from that plan and ruined the present day story line, Nolan North said he hated what the eventually did with Desmond to what they had originally planned, I guess annualising the game became more important than story in the end.
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Could not agree more.
The challenge in that would be trying to appeal to those who did not start with the first of six games, so, going back to PS2 generation. You've lost part of your market from the outset. How do you sell the sixth installment to "everyone"? And six games is, what, an 18 year span. Twelve if you push it. Yeah, they put games out annually, but we see what gets sacrificed to do that.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:53 AM   #122
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The challenge in that would be trying to appeal to those who did not start with the first of six games, so, going back to PS2 generation. You've lost part of your market from the outset. How do you sell the sixth installment to "everyone"? And six games is, what, an 18 year span. Twelve if you push it. Yeah, they put games out annually, but we see what gets sacrificed to do that.
It wasn't on PS2 Was it lol? I thought it started for 360 and then came to ps3?
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:53 PM   #123
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It wasn't on PS2 Was it lol? I thought it started for 360 and then came to ps3?
Maybe not. I only know I never played AC1, never had a PS2, and started on AC2 on PS3. Just assumed it predated PS3. Doesn't change the challenge of attracting new gamers to episode six of a series, though.
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:26 PM   #124
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Maybe not. I only know I never played AC1, never had a PS2, and started on AC2 on PS3. Just assumed it predated PS3. Doesn't change the challenge of attracting new gamers to episode six of a series, though.
Oh No it didn't... It was original series in 2007, I think they just got lost in the quick cash of punching these games out every year... And I agree at this point the original arch is beyond lost and convoluted that it would be an even bigger "WHAT?" moment. If they suddenly tried to bring it all back lol.
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Old 08-01-2015, 08:47 AM   #125
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:58 PM   #126
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The closer this series gets to modern times, the more interested I am. Exploring colonial times was interesting, but all of those puffy wool wigs and frilled clothing styles, muskets that take about 1 minute to fire realistically... Not the setting I want to explore, though the buildings and scenery usually look good.

On the other hand, if AC entered the Western setting, like Red Dead Redemption, and even this Industrial Revolution setting as with Syndicate, they'll gain my attention. The late 1800's.

Syndicate is the first time I'm actually interested in buying an Assassin's Creed game, after only renting part 1 and breathing a big sigh of relief for only renting it. Ancient times was interesting though whenever he got hurt, that non stop beeping drove me impatient. Beep, beep, beep, etc... I know he was hurt and needed healing, but don't remind me every second about it. I don't know who made that design decision...
I did buy ACIII for less than $20 brand new, but again, not the setting I enjoy aside from the great environments.
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:00 AM   #127
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... after only renting part 1 and breathing a big sigh of relief for only renting it. Ancient times was interesting though whenever he got hurt, that non stop beeping drove me impatient. Beep, beep, beep, etc... I know he was hurt and needed healing, but don't remind me every second about it. I don't know who made that design decision...
I did buy ACIII for less than $20 brand new, but again, not the setting I enjoy aside from the great environments.
You have tried the worst of the series. III is, by far, the worst, then part 1. The story of the Ezio trilogy is fantastic, Black Flag is fantastic and the graphics of Unity are great for an open world game. III was buggy, bad graphics, horrible storyline, just bad.
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Yeah anyone quitting after only playing AC1 and AC3 have done themselves a disservice. The Ezio Trilogy and AC: Black Flag especially are fantastic games imo.
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Yeah anyone quitting after only playing AC1 and AC3 have done themselves a disservice. The Ezio Trilogy and AC: Black Flag especially are fantastic games imo.
Revelations is the weakest link in the Ezio trilogy, but superior to AC3, with it's dour, boring protagonist. Black Flag is superb, and AC: Unity on pc finally patched and debugged isn't far behind, if short.
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:17 PM   #130
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Yeah anyone quitting after only playing AC1 and AC3 have done themselves a disservice. The Ezio Trilogy and AC: Black Flag especially are fantastic games imo.
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Revelations is the weakest link in the Ezio trilogy, but superior to AC3, with it's dour, boring protagonist. Black Flag is superb, and AC: Unity on pc finally patched and debugged isn't far behind, if short.
Even if you don't like the AC franchise based on your experience with any of the other installments, there is still a chance you will like Black Flag. It's distinct from the rest. I completely expect they will bring seafaring back in another chapter, as it was so well done, and it will sell games.
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The closer this series gets to modern times, the more interested I am. Exploring colonial times was interesting, but all of those puffy wool wigs and frilled clothing styles, muskets that take about 1 minute to fire realistically... Not the setting I want to explore, though the buildings and scenery usually look good.

On the other hand, if AC entered the Western setting, like Red Dead Redemption, and even this Industrial Revolution setting as with Syndicate, they'll gain my attention. The late 1800's.

Syndicate is the first time I'm actually interested in buying an Assassin's Creed game, after only renting part 1 and breathing a big sigh of relief for only renting it. Ancient times was interesting though whenever he got hurt, that non stop beeping drove me impatient. Beep, beep, beep, etc... I know he was hurt and needed healing, but don't remind me every second about it. I don't know who made that design decision...
I did buy ACIII for less than $20 brand new, but again, not the setting I enjoy aside from the great environments.
For me I'm the opposite. I like AC staying in the swords eras. Soon we'll be getting AC games where it's just guns like a FPS.

Black Flag is my all time favorite AC game. Syndicate looks fun though.
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AC II is my favorite of the series still I think. I remember seeing the trailer for the first AC and I was like holy shit.. I want to play that. The first one wasn't bad, but they hadn't quite figured it all out yet, so it was just kind of meh, but you could see the potential. Then AC II hit and it was awesome. Brotherhood was also really good, Revelations was so so, AC III was pretty bad. It wasn't until Black Flag that they really made another great AC game. I didn't like the ship stuff at first, but it grew on me and the game was just all around great. AC Unity ... buggy mess at first, after they got the bugs ironed out it wasn't all that bad, but still not great. Looking forward to this installment though as I am every year.
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:44 AM   #133
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AC II is my favorite of the series still I think. I remember seeing the trailer for the first AC and I was like holy shit.. I want to play that. The first one wasn't bad, but they hadn't quite figured it all out yet, so it was just kind of meh, but you could see the potential. Then AC II hit and it was awesome. Brotherhood was also really good, Revelations was so so, AC III was pretty bad. It wasn't until Black Flag that they really made another great AC game. I didn't like the ship stuff at first, but it grew on me and the game was just all around great. AC Unity ... buggy mess at first, after they got the bugs ironed out it wasn't all that bad, but still not great. Looking forward to this installment though as I am every year.
Everything you said is how I feel about the series. Ezio's character has been the best. They need another character with personality, and an epic era. Unity felt like a step backward from Black Flag. Instead of being a greater version, now on next gen systems, it went back to square one.

Less focus on the 4 player and online chests, and more on the single player experience. Which is what this series has always been about.
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thanks for that trailer mate it was awesome.
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I just hope they bring it up a notch on the story.

Based on how weak Unity's story was, I can make an assumption on lazy writing.

Who wants to bet one of the Assassins dies by the end of the game?

There can be only one!
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You have tried the worst of the series. III is, by far, the worst, then part 1. The story of the Ezio trilogy is fantastic, Black Flag is fantastic and the graphics of Unity are great for an open world game. III was buggy, bad graphics, horrible storyline, just bad.

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Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
Yeah, I bailed after being disappointed with AC1, but then decided to give ACIII a try and it was mostly cutscenes with minimal gameplay for many of the missions. They'd show a long cutscene, then you go find someone for a minute's time, then another long cutscene, then go find and talk to another guy for a minute, another long cutscene, find a lady in the snow, another lengthy cutscene, etc.

Finally, well into the game when the more in depth missions started, it was decent, though the game held the player's hand a lot with the balancing on trees and branches, when to duck, when to jump, climb, etc. Ubisoft's Watch_Dogs thankfully gave more control back, with a leap over button to decide when to do stuff so it wasn't all automatic.


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For me I'm the opposite. I like AC staying in the swords eras. Soon we'll be getting AC games where it's just guns like a FPS.

Black Flag is my all time favorite AC game. Syndicate looks fun though.
Sword battles could be fun in AC with the right timing down, though I imagine the guns will be 3rd person as before and avoid the FPS style. They said the combat fights will be tougher to handle than prior games.

In Syndicate, though it's been done before, I like the addition of the grappling hook for climbing and sliding from roof to roof. That looks like fun for this series.
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Graphics look good and the new gameplay mechanics. May be sitting this round out though. Way to many other games this Fall I want. Depends on when Target has it's B2G1 free sale I guess.
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Hmmm....been staying away from Assassin's Creed since Black Flag (which i love). Wouldn't touch Unity. Loved the first game and had a hard time playing the other ones on my PS3 (don't know if the system is crudding out because i have a hard time controlling anything, even on AC3 which I quit very early).

Got a PS4 and played some of Black Flag. Loved it! So since I have a coupon, may bite the bullet and get this one at Gamestop (necklace looks cool as well. Definitely not a deal breaker but I've always wanted an AC necklace and this fits the bill since the one I like has been sold out forever).
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