Are you cutting down on BD now that 4k BD is coming?

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Didn't see T4 did you? You missed out!!

IMAX has developed the first fully integrated dual 65mm 4K digital large-format 3D camera.

The IMAX 3D Digital Camera is a true 4K stereo camera. This means that both the left eye and right eye images are captured at full 4K resolution.



http://www.slashfilm.com/new-imax-3d...ransformers-4/

I saw it in Digital 3D, not IMAX as my local IMAX theatre was pulled down.

It appears that T4 had some sequences captured in full 4K per eye, but was finished and presented in standard 2K 3D.

It might of been better to state that I understand there is no standard for display of 4K 3D movies and it is not part of the UltraHD Blu-ray specifications. That's not to say it wont be added in a couple years time of course.

[AgentOrange]

Up to this point, not at all.

But that is mostly because the majority of things I've been buying lately have little or no chance of 4K any time soon. I think going forward, I do have a little bit of 4K on my mind.... but it depends on the release.

Take Goodfellas for instance, I've been waiting *FOREVER* for that remastered blu-ray. But with how expensive it is, I feels like I might as well wait for the inevitable 4K release. There will likely be other releases similar to that where I will take more of a "wait for 4K" attitude.

In either case, there is no chance in hell I re-upgrade my entire collection like I did with DVD>blu-ray. However I doubt that would be an option anyway. I expect the catalog market for UHD/4K to be very spotty for several years. Even in a best case scenario for the catalog market, It might be 10 years before I could even replace half my blu-ray collection IMO. If UHD doesn't take off as a format, even 50% might be a massive stretch.

[spargs]

Nope, not slowing down. Blu-ray is as far as I'm going. I find myself almost solely interested in catalog titles now (and deeper catalog titles at that), and most of these will never see the light of day in a physical format again.

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by #Darren

Highly unlikely they will release a film on 4K but not 2K as that would cost them a lot of revenue.

But having said that, IMO most 4K titles will be titles already available on BD.

I think you misunderstand him, he's saying they better just release more titles at 2K, rather than waste time "re-issuing" the same films at 4K.

I hope they do both. Keep expanding the blu-ray catalog, especially of classic films. I'd rather have boxes of 2K classics then nothing at all. But at the same time, they need to fix some of the biggest "sins" on blu-ray with new 4K remasters.

Common sense says they will start with stuff that already has 4K ready to go. But it's not like the 4K pipeline will just stop the day the format releases. There will be new upgrades, and probably also some films on 4K that somehow escaped blu-ray.

[Pieter V]

First let's see if the studios really put effort in new upcoming titles. Most of them are now finished at 2K.

And soon with two mediums together one will affect the other.

[I KEEL YOU]

I have decided that I will only upgrade the titles that were poor or mediocre blu ray releases to begin with, such as the Kubrick movies, The Thing, Terminator 2, Reservoir Dogs, etc. I don't think that my 4K disc count will ever get to over 30.

Honestly, I don't see a too bright of a future for the format as well, I just hope that all the triple A titles with poor current blu ray releases get an upgrade before/if the 4K physical format should fail.

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by spargs

Nope, not slowing down. Blu-ray is as far as I'm going. I find myself almost solely interested in catalog titles now (and deeper catalog titles at that), and most of these will never see the light of day in a physical format again.

For me it depends on the release.

Niche labels or cult films, I'm not really thinking about 4K. Like you, that's the bulk of what I'm buying at this point.

But with major releases, or films with known 4K masters, I"m starting to think about holding off. I don't buy alot of "new" releases anyway, but I will probably do even less at this point until 4K shakes out.

[Darth Marcus]

[DavePS3]

If I get a 4K panel later this year, I'll start to get new releases in 4K but I'm really tired of re-collecting back titles every time a format changes so I'm still grabbing Blu's.

[mojo_navigator]

Well the thing is, IS 4k really coming?

For something like this to be successful there needs to be a market and judging by many of the comments on this thread there seems to be a distinct lack of enthusiasm.

Much of this negativity seems to be based on what people perceive as the cynicism of movie studios and equipment manufacturers who think they can continually take all of us for granted. Nobody likes to be a sucker (not saying that 4k is making us one but it has certainly been created to relieve us of bling).

4K in itself is an excellent idea for film enthusiasts but it doesn't address many problems, the central one being this - what will we watch these on?

Odds are it will be some form of LCD/LED and this is where I feel the real weakness of home video lies. With plasma gone and OLED being underfunded the future is looking pretty grim for the display end of things.

There is no point in increasing resolution if the technology driving the playback is utter junk.

Like others have stated, I'd much prefer to stick with my Panasonic Plasma and blu-ray.

4k interests me but there are many issues that need to be resolved before it can become a reality (for me)

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by mojo_navigator

Well the thing is, IS 4k really coming?

For something like this to be successful there needs to be a market and judging by many of the comments on this thread there seems to be a distinct lack of enthusiasm.

Much of this negativity seems to be based on what people perceive as the cynicism of movie studios and equipment manufacturers who think they can continually take all of us for granted. Nobody likes to be a sucker (not saying that 4k is making us one but it has certainly been created to relieve us of bling).

4K in itself is an excellent idea for film enthusiasts but it doesn't address many problems, the central one being this - what will we watch these on?

Odds are it will be some form of LCD/LED and this is where I feel the real weakness of home video lies. With plasma gone and OLED being underfunded the future is looking pretty grim for the display end of things.

There is no point in increasing resolution if the technology driving the playback is utter junk.

Like others have stated, I'd much prefer to stick with my Panasonic Plasma and blu-ray.

4k interests me but there are many issues that need to be resolved before it can become a reality (for me)

The BDA has said it will come during Q4 of this year.

[mojo_navigator]

That's not what I meant.

Let me re-phrase - is anyone ever going to buy it in substantial numbers for it to work?

It may be released onto the market but if no one bites, it ain't really coming

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by mojo_navigator

That's not what I meant.

Let me re-phrase - is anyone ever going to buy it in substantial numbers for it to work?

It may be released onto the market but if no one bites, it ain't really coming

They don't have to. 4K displays are already here and will continue to multiply. What they need is content. Most films will continue to be filmed in 35mm or digitial 4K. All it comes to is the studios making 4K DIs instead of 2K. Sony foresaw this years ago, but the rest of the studios are being lazy.

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

I have decided that I will only upgrade the titles that were poor or mediocre blu ray releases to begin with, such as the Kubrick movies, The Thing, Terminator 2, Reservoir Dogs, etc. I don't think that my 4K disc count will ever get to over 30.

Honestly, I don't see a too bright of a future for the format as well, I just hope that all the triple A titles with poor current blu ray releases get an upgrade before/if the 4K physical format should fail.

What about new releases? Are you going to buy those on Blu-ray or UHD? I personally don't see that many older movies getting UHD releases that are substantially better than the existing Blu-ray releases but most major new releases will probably get great UHD releases.

I just looked at your collection and see that you barely have any recent movies, so I guess my question doesn't apply.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by mojo_navigator

Well the thing is, IS 4k really coming?

...
4k interests me but there are many issues that need to be resolved before it can become a reality (for me)

IMHO, there is still a real question about whether or not it's (4k BD) is coming.

Finalizing specifications and building technology demonstrators does not compel any of the commercial BUSINESSES to actually provide product. It's like a land developer building a shopping mall and then looking for tenants. Just because the basic structure exists doesn't mean that companies will risk their money to move in.

We know that some specialty BD titles have only sold a few HUNDRED titles. Some big catalogue titles are barely in the thousands.

Companies have to commit to building players, buying disc production facilities and everything that goes into the package. When I see slow selling $59.00BD players at the big box stores, I wonder how many companies are enthusiastic about building new hardware.

EDITING IN ADDITIONAL:

"The BDA has said it will come during Q4 of this year."

This is an example of what I mean. The Blu-ray Disc Association isn't a commercial operation. It's like a developer who sets specifications and calls for bids and proposals. They can't compel anybody to provide final products.

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

When I see slow selling $59.00BD players at the big box stores, I wonder how many companies are enthusiastic about building new hardware.

Most people who are interested in Blu-ray already have a player at this point. There's no reason why Blu-ray players should continue to sell well.

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

"The BDA has said it will come during Q4 of this year."

This is an example of what I mean. The Blu-ray Disc Association isn't a commercial operation. It's like a developer who sets specifications and calls for bids and proposals. They can't compel anybody to provide final products.

They aren't a commercial operation but many of the companies who will be making UHD players and discs are board members.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Most people who are interested in Blu-ray already have a player at this point. There's no reason why Blu-ray players should continue to sell well.

And DVD continues to outsell BD (about 70% to 30%).

Which means we can't convince DVD people to upgrade to BD.

If the vast majority of DVD buyers won't buy into BD, is there any reason to believe that BD buyers will upgrade to 4K?

As I said earlier...this is the law of diminishing returns. Only 30% of DVD buyers thought it was worthwhile to upgrade to BD. I'd be surprised if 30% of those BD buyers upgrade to 4K.

[Torgon]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Most people who are interested in Blu-ray already have a player at this point. There's no reason why Blu-ray players should continue to sell well.

The funny part is, DVDs still out sell BDs. Why are people watching DVDs on their HDTVs? BDs are not that expensive as we all know; that was the story in the beginning. I only buy DVDs of things not available on BD.

I will upgrade to 4K one day, but it won't be for a while (have to let my TV die first). Not sure if I'll replace my library again like I've done with my DVDs. I need to trim my library as it is, .

[GP Legend]

Yes, I have cut down, but not because of 4K. Most movies I only watch once, so I stopped wasting money on movies I don't watch a lot.

[Jbug]

When one of my favorite movies is released, I will pick it up on 4k. I already have the TV and receiver and will take advantage of that.