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Old 04-21-2022, 09:39 PM   #1441
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Well I hear you on the part about theaters.

But if I wasn't a big fan already, I'd watch a movie on Disney+ first before spending $70 or so on a disc. Just sayin'
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:09 PM   #1442
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I simply can't stand going to a theater. People around my parts are rude and obnoxious. I'm not going to pay to watch a movie and put up with the cell phones, whining babies and rude talking people. Besides that I feel 3D movies are better on my on setup. I much prefer to watch it at home and will never watch a 3D movie in 2D. Unless it is a Marvel or DC then I will buy a 2D version to complete the series.
[Show spoiler]Couldn't resist.


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Old 04-21-2022, 10:18 PM   #1443
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[Show spoiler]Couldn't resist.


God knows all the times I've been tempted.....
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:53 PM   #1444
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I just stopped going before I went postal on the idiots.
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Old 04-22-2022, 03:17 AM   #1445
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Shang-chi has been reduced to 6000 jpy. Black Widow is even cheaper.
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Old 04-22-2022, 03:22 AM   #1446
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Also, Amazon Japan should combine shipping. I don't want to have to pay for shipping 3 times for them to just ship all three movies in one package.
I don't understand -- they do combine shipping. Unless you mean making 3 separate orders and then retroactively adding them into one package -- usually they ship too fast to do that, but you can cancel and reorder as a single group.

A single item is around 2000-2200yen, then add 100-200 for ea item. Even if they split shipment the charge doesn't change.
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Old 04-22-2022, 11:59 PM   #1447
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[Show spoiler]Couldn't resist.


Someone brought an infant to Infinity War, and that movie was loud! I noticed they didn't have 3D glasses on the baby, though.
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Old 04-23-2022, 01:42 AM   #1448
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Someone brought an infant to Infinity War, and that movie was loud! I noticed they didn't have 3D glasses on the baby, though.
Theaters here put a minimum age for non kiddie films, needs to be universal.

Sometimes an interactive crowd can be fun. I saw Infinity War with the Daishiki crowd and their screams of joy, and literal tears of dismay, over Black Panther were hilarious.

I didn't see that level of unbridled autism on display again until the preview showing of Sonic 2, where 50 year old men and 5 year old kids both cried tears of joy...and the dialogue near the end was drowned out by all the shrill shrieks of excitement. Despite Sega's best efforts, Sonic fandom lives on.


Meanwhile, my pals and I were pretty much in a private showing for Shang Chi. If only that film could have captured even an iota of that excitement.
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Old 04-23-2022, 07:00 AM   #1449
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Someone brought an infant to Infinity War, and that movie was loud! I noticed they didn't have 3D glasses on the baby, though.
Luckily, the majority of my Shang-Chi screenings went beautifully, especially the ones in IMAX, but there was this one time, I think it was the first 4DX showing we went to, where this lady a few rows for me wouldn't stop pulling out her phone every 5 minutes during the entire opening reel... it was VERY distracting. She seemed to be communicating with someone about how wonderful the movie was or some such thing. It was really annoying! Luckily, the folks who were closer to her got her to stop doing that and put the phone away. Needless to say, everyone forgot about it quickly because they were so blown away by the movie, especially in 4DX.

It is still one of the most amazing movies that has been released during the pandemic, glad I got to watch it in every premium format available while it was in theaters.

Truly, the experience of a lifetime.
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Old 04-26-2022, 02:30 PM   #1450
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I simply can't stand going to a theater. People around my parts are rude and obnoxious. I'm not going to pay to watch a movie and put up with the cell phones, whining babies and rude talking people. Besides that I feel 3D movies are better on my on setup. I much prefer to watch it at home and will never watch a 3D movie in 2D. Unless it is a Marvel or DC then I will buy a 2D version to complete the series.
I am lucky enough to have an Alamo near me. The one time I had an issue with another customer, they spoke with them, and when I complained again, they booted them, and gave me vouchers for another movie. But of the other 30+ times I've been there, it has been a great experience without any issues.
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Old 04-26-2022, 02:59 PM   #1451
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I find the Alamo theaters way more annoying than regular theaters. All of the servers running back and forth, taking food and drinks to the folks in the middle of the movie.

Glad I never watched Shang-Chi in an Alamo theater.
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Old 04-26-2022, 10:19 PM   #1452
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Just got my copy. Watched the opening scene and the bus fight — this is the first 3D conversion I’ve seen that looks like it was shot natively in 3D — fantastic job, lots of depth and some impressive popouts even. I would never have believed it. I bet even Bob F would be impressed. And, the film itself just happens to be crackerjack too, a win all around.

Are there any other conversion jobs that look this good?
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Old 04-27-2022, 04:10 AM   #1453
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Just got my copy. Watched the opening scene and the bus fight — this is the first 3D conversion I’ve seen that looks like it was shot natively in 3D — fantastic job, lots of depth and some impressive popouts even. I would never have believed it. I bet even Bob F would be impressed. And, the film itself just happens to be crackerjack too, a win all around.

Are there any other conversion jobs that look this good?
Most all of them?

I'm surprised by this take, as the prevailing one seems to have been that this movie had "mehdiocre" 3D unless seen on a very tweaked setup.
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Old 04-27-2022, 06:03 AM   #1454
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Old 04-27-2022, 09:16 AM   #1455
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Most all of them?

I'm surprised by this take, as the prevailing one seems to have been that this movie had "mehdiocre" 3D unless seen on a very tweaked setup.
Most people were saying this was a good conversion which is why I spent the extra time with my setup. If anything it was after removing some extra software processing that Shang-chi now looks great. The most I can say about Shang-chi is that it is setup sensitive. I still don't fully understand why that is the case.
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Old 04-27-2022, 03:55 PM   #1456
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Most all of them?

I'm surprised by this take, as the prevailing one seems to have been that this movie had "mehdiocre" 3D unless seen on a very tweaked setup.
Have you seen it?
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Old 04-27-2022, 04:02 PM   #1457
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Have you seen it?
Yep.
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Yep.
Must be something amiss with your setup. Looks fantastic, and I’ve heard nothing but good things about it from others.
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Old 04-27-2022, 08:15 PM   #1459
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Must be something amiss with your setup. Looks fantastic, and I’ve heard nothing but good things about it from others.
He had been singing praises about the 3D in the movie for months, so...
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Old 04-28-2022, 06:42 AM   #1460
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Must be something amiss with your setup. Looks fantastic, and I’ve heard nothing but good things about it from others.
A few weeks ago and you may have been right. However, I have used the aid of this forum to tweak my setup, and today I re-reviewed Shang Chi. It remains middling.

I showed it to some of my normie pals, to further the test as they won't give any "affirmative action" points to the 3D as an aficionado would, and they again walked away with the impression that it was below average from what they have seen. This is not the sort of 3D that will impress the casual viewer.

The gist is that in every 3D scene, the conversion only goes 50 to 75% as strong as it should. Depth is only 50 to 75% as deep as it ought to be, popout is only protruding 50 to 75% as far as it should. For good measure, I even watched some of the showcase 3D scenes in slo-mo.

This brings me to my issue with popout, none of the scenes featuring it last long enough (again, 50 to 75% of the duration). An example is the Water Map scene. It starts with a field of suspended water particles, a fun depth + pop scene, but then quickly transitions to a depth-only map on the floor.

Another issue with popout is that that the 3D converters did not remove the motion blurring that is there for 2D viewers. For example, when "Shang-She" launches her rope dart out at the viewer, in some frames it is slathered in motion blur, which hurts the effect because if it were were really there and our eyes focusing on it, the dart would not be blurred, at least not like that. I believe the word to describe this problem is "verisimilitude", or a lack thereof. In a similar vein, the animation used for the breaking glass shards isn't true to life and the eye notices it.

All of this to say that I still like that they tried for the 3D, and the 3D is vastly superior to the 2D version. In the grand scheme of 3D, however, it is a high D to a low C in grade.
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