Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread - Page 8 - Blu-ray Forum

splintersan · 03-13-2018, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

Same master but same encode? Past Code Red double features have sometimes had different encode (even different master) than standalones.

It has to be a different encode if the disc houses both films. If they were two separate discs then it could be the exact same disc. I was referring to the master.

GilaFilms · 03-13-2018, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian M.

What is missing?

Not certain...but according to the Mondo Digital review of the Blu-Ray, the Code Red release of WILD LITTLE BUNCH is four minutes shorter than the PAL runtime of the Network dvd.

Ruined · 03-13-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by splintersan

It has to be a different encode if the disc houses both films. If they were two separate discs then it could be the exact same disc. I was referring to the master.

Will be interesting to see if there is a visible difference in quality from the 2-film vs 1-film discs.

cropduster · 03-14-2018, 06:39 AM

The House That Vanished/The Eerie Midnight Horror Show is back up for sale again.

ScorpionReleasing · 03-14-2018, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

Will be interesting to see if there is a visible difference in quality from the 2-film vs 1-film discs.

its probably worse due the compression

jmat91 · 03-14-2018, 11:19 PM

Damn house is gone again. I'll wait until it goes back up

indravayu · 03-14-2018, 11:25 PM

My copy is out for delivery - should have it very soon!

iamnoone · 03-14-2018, 11:48 PM

Watching "The House That Vanished" now and the first thing you'll notice are 4 vertical green lines in opening scenes, and then also recurring later, plus lots of audio-pops and scratches on the soundtrack. Worst, though, were all the weird colored blotchy blobs moving around on the image. I don't know what to make of that! I recall someone saying something like this about "Don't Look in the Basement" which I didn't buy. I guess it could just be a defect on the print used, but it's quite weird and I don't think I've seen such a thing on countless drive-in prints I've watched over the years, and it's the most distracting part of the transfer. Overall, it looks like a decent, but somewhat worn, theatrical print, and for a "drive-in" series like this, I suppose it's all acceptable. It surely looks better than the old VHS.

However, back to the VHS from Media Video, the print of the film on that old VHS ran 98 minutes, although the box mistakenly said 84. The print on the Dark Forces release runs 89 minutes, so shorter by 9 minutes? Uh-oh. I like the film, but don't know it by heart, so I would have no idea what's missing.

Eerie Midnight looks better because no weird blotches, and I bet it's identical to the Code Red blu which we all probably have, so who cares anyway? Drive-in mode? Nah, I have enough trailer compilations so skipped this feature.

Not unhappy with this purchase and maybe this is the best we'll ever get of "Vanished", and that's why I jumped quick as the supposed legal issues with the film had me worried this may get pulled quickly. But I may wait for proper reviews for other titles in the future.

iamnoone · 03-15-2018, 12:08 AM

I should add, that I just checked out the Drive-In mode, and there are a lot of really quirky and bizarro drive-in concession ads I've never seen, some really goofy vintage stuff - those definitely added some extra value to this disc now. The interview with an animated "stomach" laying back in his car waiting for the movie to start and discussing why he is craving a pizza is beyond ridiculous!

There's also a "No PDA will be tolerated here" ad!

Marshall Crist · 03-15-2018, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnoone

Worst, though, were all the weird colored blotchy blobs moving around on the image.

Fuji-rot, perhaps?

indravayu · 03-15-2018, 12:57 AM

Yeah, HOUSE is in real rough shape - was surprised that EERIE looks better. I don't regret the purchase, but I hope that folks aren't expecting a pristine version scanned from the original negative.

ScorpionReleasing · 03-15-2018, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by indravayu

Yeah, HOUSE is in real rough shape - was surprised that EERIE looks better. I don't regret the purchase, but I hope that folks aren't expecting a pristine version scanned from the original negative.

i love the "claim" they make on their FB page "....they had to do extensive restoration to it" what extensive restoration? do a best light of a beat to death print ? its sad some labels will lie about things like this, thus making consumers not trust honest labels for saying their title did go through real restoration.

EDIT so its short by 9 minutes too! this should be mentioned on the packaging as a disclaimer. sheesh!

indravayu · 03-15-2018, 01:42 AM

I am more bummed out by this being the cut version of the film, to tell the truth - guess I am getting used to rough transfers of beat up theatrical prints after buying several Dorado Films releases, haha.

Marsupial Werewolf · 03-15-2018, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

i love the "claim" they make on their FB page "....they had to do extensive restoration to it" what extensive restoration? do a best light of a beat to death print ? its sad some labels will lie about things like this, thus making consumers not trust honest labels for saying their title did go through real restoration.

EDIT so its short by 9 minutes too! this should be mentioned on the packaging as a disclaimer. sheesh!

I’m buying OFFERINGS and KILL OR BE KILLED and I don’t see Dark Force getting much more of my business.

painiac · 03-15-2018, 11:34 AM

so will Kill or Be Killed be available only through Dark Force's cartel?

cropduster · 03-15-2018, 11:52 AM

I really wish the runtime would have been advertised for The House That Vanished. I still would have bought it(despite the cuts) due to the rarity of the film but some honesty upfront goes a long way.

It would be nice to know exactly what is cut from this release if anyone has or is familiar with the 98 minute vhs.

barsalou · 03-15-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cropduster

...but some honesty upfront goes a long way.

I dont’ think we can expect that from Dark Force though, they where shady from the get-go trying to unload Spasms dvds or asking $50 for Necromancy... and now this, it’s buyer beware it seems.

ScorpionReleasing · 03-15-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarak

I can see them re-releasing The House That Vanished without cuts and then touting the old version as a "collectors item."

and you get either a chaos or damon Packard magnet too!!

ScorpionReleasing · 03-15-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarak

From Facebook:

cute, trying to sucker the collectors ! wonderful! what's next more magnets?

painiac · 03-15-2018, 03:15 PM

the "original" was $17.99 yesterday, $19.99 today. i'm selling my original Code Reds of House at the Edge of the Park and the DF of Last House on Massacre Street/Wild Little Bunch to grab this, i wonder how much this super cool second edition will be

edit: went ahead and grabbed the House at the Edge of the Park/Last House on Massacre Street & Chaos/Don't Look in the Basement after getting bid on the Code Red disc. i'll buy Offerings from Amazon down the line, and i'll come back for Kill or Be Killed.

03-14-2018, 06:39 AM	#144
cropduster Special Member Member since:Jun 2017 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	The House That Vanished/The Eerie Midnight Horror Show is back up for sale again.

03-14-2018, 11:19 PM	#146
jmat91 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Somewhere South Blu-ray collection:2312 DVD collection:2	Damn house is gone again. I'll wait until it goes back up

03-14-2018, 11:25 PM	#147
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	My copy is out for delivery - should have it very soon!

03-14-2018, 11:48 PM	#148
iamnoone Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Antarctica Blu-ray collection:41 Trading Score:91	Watching "The House That Vanished" now and the first thing you'll notice are 4 vertical green lines in opening scenes, and then also recurring later, plus lots of audio-pops and scratches on the soundtrack. Worst, though, were all the weird colored blotchy blobs moving around on the image. I don't know what to make of that! I recall someone saying something like this about "Don't Look in the Basement" which I didn't buy. I guess it could just be a defect on the print used, but it's quite weird and I don't think I've seen such a thing on countless drive-in prints I've watched over the years, and it's the most distracting part of the transfer. Overall, it looks like a decent, but somewhat worn, theatrical print, and for a "drive-in" series like this, I suppose it's all acceptable. It surely looks better than the old VHS. However, back to the VHS from Media Video, the print of the film on that old VHS ran 98 minutes, although the box mistakenly said 84. The print on the Dark Forces release runs 89 minutes, so shorter by 9 minutes? Uh-oh. I like the film, but don't know it by heart, so I would have no idea what's missing. Eerie Midnight looks better because no weird blotches, and I bet it's identical to the Code Red blu which we all probably have, so who cares anyway? Drive-in mode? Nah, I have enough trailer compilations so skipped this feature. Not unhappy with this purchase and maybe this is the best we'll ever get of "Vanished", and that's why I jumped quick as the supposed legal issues with the film had me worried this may get pulled quickly. But I may wait for proper reviews for other titles in the future.

03-15-2018, 12:08 AM	#149
iamnoone Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Antarctica Blu-ray collection:41 Trading Score:91	I should add, that I just checked out the Drive-In mode, and there are a lot of really quirky and bizarro drive-in concession ads I've never seen, some really goofy vintage stuff - those definitely added some extra value to this disc now. The interview with an animated "stomach" laying back in his car waiting for the movie to start and discussing why he is craving a pizza is beyond ridiculous! There's also a "No PDA will be tolerated here" ad!

03-15-2018, 12:57 AM	#151
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	Yeah, HOUSE is in real rough shape - was surprised that EERIE looks better. I don't regret the purchase, but I hope that folks aren't expecting a pristine version scanned from the original negative.

03-15-2018, 01:42 AM	#153
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	I am more bummed out by this being the cut version of the film, to tell the truth - guess I am getting used to rough transfers of beat up theatrical prints after buying several Dorado Films releases, haha.

03-15-2018, 11:34 AM	#155
painiac Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2016 Location:brooklyn 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:2197 DVD collection:845	so will Kill or Be Killed be available only through Dark Force's cartel?

03-15-2018, 11:52 AM	#156
cropduster Special Member Member since:Jun 2017 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	I really wish the runtime would have been advertised for The House That Vanished. I still would have bought it(despite the cuts) due to the rarity of the film but some honesty upfront goes a long way. It would be nice to know exactly what is cut from this release if anyone has or is familiar with the 98 minute vhs.

03-15-2018, 03:15 PM	#160
painiac Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2016 Location:brooklyn 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:2197 DVD collection:845	the "original" was $17.99 yesterday, $19.99 today. i'm selling my original Code Reds of House at the Edge of the Park and the DF of Last House on Massacre Street/Wild Little Bunch to grab this, i wonder how much this super cool second edition will be edit: went ahead and grabbed the House at the Edge of the Park/Last House on Massacre Street & Chaos/Don't Look in the Basement after getting bid on the Code Red disc. i'll buy Offerings from Amazon down the line, and i'll come back for Kill or Be Killed.

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