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Old 05-13-2018, 05:56 PM   #1581
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-Lawyer getting eaten off the toilet
-Jackson and his severed arm
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That one is brutal. It's even worse since the character is sympathetic and played by an actor I like (Richard Schiff).
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:32 PM   #1582
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Man i hope these look good, we deserve it.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:35 PM   #1583
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For me personally JP series is of the most revolutionary films ever made, and I cant describe you guys how disappointed I was seeing films like that got just mediocre BD transfers. Because of that I'm not expecting to be blow away with UHD transfers, but at least I hope UHD discs will be better compared to BD releases (I dont want additional DNR).
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:38 PM   #1584
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any news about subtitles yet?
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:41 PM   #1585
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For me personally JP series is of the most revolutionary films ever made, and I cant describe you guys how disappointed I was seeing films like that got just mediocre BD transfers. Because of that I'm not expecting to be blow away with UHD transfers, but at least I hope UHD discs will be better compared to BD releases (I dont want additional DNR).
I agree, I just want them better, hope TLW isnt as soft, to me that movie is like Batman Begins transfer.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:56 PM   #1586
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That video is a bit misleading as only the 3D version featured the new transfer, all 2D releases since 2011 have used the exact same discs.
So why people complaining about the 2011 transfer being used for the 4k remaster when it's the better looking version of the two?
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:22 PM   #1587
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So why people complaining about the 2011 transfer being used for the 4k remaster when it's the better looking version of the two?
Well the 2011 BD is based on an old transfer I believe originally used for the DVD and has a number of issues that have left it sadly lacking for the past 7 years, every time they re-released it people hoped Universal had done the right thing and remastered it but instead they have been recycling the same old discs which isn’t that surprising as that is how they have treated Back to the Future.

The 2013 3D release used a new 4K transfer but as that comparison video clearly shows the colours were very different and not to everyone’s liking plus I believe it had DNR applied to smooth out the grain so again not a great release.

Fingers crossed Jurassic Park is finally getting the treatment it deserves with the UHD.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:31 PM   #1588
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Well the 2011 BD is based on an old transfer I believe originally used for the DVD and has a number of issues that have left it sadly lacking for the past 7 years, every time they re-released it people hoped Universal had done the right thing and remastered it but instead they have been recycling the same old discs which isn’t that surprising as that is how they have treated Back to the Future.

The 2013 3D release used a new 4K transfer but as that comparison video clearly shows the colours were very different and not to everyone’s liking plus I believe it had DNR applied to smooth out the grain so again not a great release.

Fingers crossed Jurassic Park is finally getting the treatment it deserves with the UHD.
I hooe there good also, expecially JP/TLW, and JW.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:37 PM   #1589
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I don't think these films will look the way people want or expect them to. Especially the first two.
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I don't think these films will look the way people want or expect them to. Especially the first two.
Me also..just hope a little better.
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:07 PM   #1591
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any news about subtitles yet?
What did you want to know? If there are Greek subtitles? The Nordic edition, which seems to be the same as the UK one judging by the language tracks, has Greek subtitles.
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Old 05-13-2018, 11:23 PM   #1592
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Quick question...since I redeemed the code from the 3D version on iTunes before the introduction of MA, should my copy have been upgraded to 4K? It's not showing as such on my MA transaction history.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:24 AM   #1593
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A whole week before release Zoom have just pre-authorised the payment for my JP steelbooks. Oh man I’d love to get these early.
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Quick question...since I redeemed the code from the 3D version on iTunes before the introduction of MA, should my copy have been upgraded to 4K? It's not showing as such on my MA transaction history.
For it to be 4K in your MA transaction history you needed to redeem AFTER it went 4K on iTunes
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:52 AM   #1595
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That one is brutal. It's even worse since the character is sympathetic and played by an actor I like (Richard Schiff).
poor Toby, er, I mean Eddie
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:23 AM   #1596
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For it to be 4K in your MA transaction history you needed to redeem AFTER it went 4K on iTunes
Will disconnecting and reconnecting iTunes fix this?
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:30 AM   #1597
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-Lawyer getting eaten off the toilet
-Jackson and his severed arm
-Guy getting bitten in half by 2 t-rexes in TLW
Eddie's screams of terror right before they go silent always send a chill in me, that and the noises the dude that the Rex eats in San Diego makes.
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Eddie's screams of terror right before they go silent always send a chill in me, that and the noises the dude that the Rex eats makes in San Deigo
I don't know if you knew this, but that guy in San Diego is the movie's screenwriter, David Koepp.

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Old 05-14-2018, 03:27 AM   #1599
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Don't forget the guy from TLW who was stomped to death by the Rex
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This ranking of imaginary characters being eaten alive shows how the filmmakers' narrative and production choices shape our attitudes and opinions towards onscreen violence.

Spielberg frames Gennero's death around his being a greedy lawyer who abandons children at a moment of crisis. So while we might chalk it up to genre karma the shot composition (Rex towering over Gennero in LS), editing(LS to dolly in onto Gennero wiping his eyes back to Rex attacking in LS), and sound (Gennero's horrifying scream) it still resonates intensely and raises the stakes for the main characters when the Rex steps back into the majority of the frame's foreground.

But in JW, Trevorrow gives us two scenes of the self-absorbed assistant (a lollipop to anyone that can remember her name without using IMDB) planning her wedding over her phone while not paying attention to poorly written children who we don't care about. Then dispatches her in a lengthy sequence edited from the kids' gaze POV. So the audience are really just bystanders as we watch this "character" get drowned while waiting for the Masosaurus to inevitably gobble her and the Teradactyl up. After which the kids exchange a "wow" look before BDH and Chris Pratt find them and never mention the assistant again. The whole thing just comes across as cruel because they invested more in her death scene than her character. Sure it's meta on the horror genre level. We bought our tickets to see dinosaurs eat people for thrills, but it just seems un-earned. At least Gennero got a good hour for us to dislike him so when he does die, we at least understand the violence inflicted on him is awful, and don't want that to happen to the characters we do care about.

I guess another way to put it would be the filmmakers don't respect the violence they display on screen. Although, JW is a pretty stupid movie. I enjoy it on a technical presentation/guilty pleasure level. It probably doesn't deserve this kind of scrutiny.

Just a side note, I really like JP's 3D conversion. Really great sound mix to go along with it too.
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